Epstein client list, does it exist or not?
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You can't convince a conspiracy theorist, because anything that doesn't confirm their set beliefs is just further evidence of a coverup. It's impossible to conclusively prove a client list didn't exist, therefore it must exist. It's impossible to conclusively prove Epstein committed suicide, therefore he must have been murdered. You also can't prove he was murdered, but hey ho. And now Mossad, the FSB and the Build-A-Bear group are involved too.
Trump will fire that nasty woman Bondi, deny he knew or ever met her, and that will be that. Because the Administration is PERFECT.
The finger is being wagged at those who with absolute certainty, and no evidence, claim it's the second part that's the lie. Why does anyone assume that the inveterate liars who flung fabricated accusations at anything and anyone when it suited them told the truth about that one thing that one time?
It's not news that Giuffre had worked at Mar-a-Lago. She got the job through her dad, who worked there as a maintenance manager.
Here's one article from 2022:
What's news is that Trump is changing his story about why he fell out with Epstein, previously it had reported that it was over some Florida real estate they both wanted.
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My point was that the location of the cameras is not new information.
Musk has stated in public that he was invited, but didn't go. At least as reported by the media, the new material doesn't contradict that. Bannon and Thiel should answer some questions, and the fact that someone named "Andrew" paid for a massage at the same time that official records show that Prince Andrew was in town to attend a reception for the National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children borders on parody.
Available for download here: https://oversight.house.gov/release...releases-additional-epstein-estate-documents/
Edit: They've really just dumped everything. E.g. there seems to be a complete scanned copy of this book in there, some BDSM-themed LiveJournal, etc. etc.
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There's some expert-level redaction going on in that dump. These are photos taken of a published book, so nothing really sensitive, but still a good show of competence. I guess that's why it's called an oversight committee.
It's a photo of Virginia Giuffre. For some reason, the unredacted versions were included as well.
More like gay and outed, that's why he killed Gawker.
99% of the post-2015 messages that mention Trump is just Epstein and others going "fuck that guy" in one way or another.
This is all very Pizzagate.
I'm talking specifically about the tendency for some people to construct increasingly lurid fantasies based on very little at all.
You won't, which is why this conspiracy theory will never completely die out.
You people are reading an insane amount into a throwaway joke. Seeing as Mark Epstein's next message in the exchange was a reference to the movie Get Hard, it's far more likely to me to be a prison rape joke.
Brunel was 75, and looking at spending the rest of his life in prison convicted of child rape and sex trafficing. Him committing suicide is not very surprising, and it wasn't his first attempt.
Of course he did, that was obviously the whole point of writing the letter. I only skimmed about the first 30000 files of the Epstein estate dump, but it's pretty clear to me that he had grown to absolutely loathe Trump, and this was his last chance of trying to hurt him.
On the other hand, Musk explicitly said he wanted to bring his then-wife. With several others, there was a lot of nudge-nudge-leave-the-partner-at-home messaging from Epstein.
As far as I can tell, the claims about cannibalism are based on these two documents. Call me naive, but I don't find the claims of George H. W. Bush, Henry Kissinger, and George Soros (but of course!) going to a baby-shit-eating party all that credible. Also sexual abuse performed by generic "black men" is a bit of a red flag.
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet 9/EFTA01246048.pdf
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet 9/EFTA00147661.pdf
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet 9/EFTA01246048.pdf
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet 9/EFTA00147661.pdf
The traditional claims (if you can call it that) that go back to pre-medieval times is that Jews need the blood of Christians, especially babies, to perform various rituals. There's some speculation that Christians basically took the same propaganda that was spread about them by the Romans, and used it to persecute Jews.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_libel
This isn't really news, it was all documented in this DOJ report from 2023. I don't remember if Ars published a story about it, but I remember it being discussed at length on here. The DVR had two failed drives, so a rebuild was unavoidable, and the failures had occurred on July 29th.
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Kathryn Ruemmler, Goldman Sachs' top lawyer and head of their reputational risk committee has resigned over her connection to Epstein. She claims she "had no knowledge of any ongoing criminal conduct on his part, and I did not know him as the monster he has been revealed to be", while also advising him on how to whitewash his 2008 conviction.
Sultan Ahmed bin Sulayem, the head of DP World, has also resigned, for much the same reasons. He was the one talking about a "torture video", which was probably referring to a video of a member of the UAE royal family torturing someone, which had made the news a couple of days before the email.
Sultan Ahmed bin Sulayem, the head of DP World, has also resigned, for much the same reasons. He was the one talking about a "torture video", which was probably referring to a video of a member of the UAE royal family torturing someone, which had made the news a couple of days before the email.
Not really though. 4chan still gets something like 22 million unique monthly visitors, so there's a decent chance at least one user found out before it reached the press.
Or at the hospital where his body was taken. I would assume the news that they had Epstein's body on lying on a slab in the basement would have spread very quickly.
Does anyone outside the US DoJ have access to the full, unredacted files? AFAIK everyone is just going by what's been released to the public.
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