[pdf warning] It is interesting to note there are unredacted matches for partially redacted things. Some pretty crazy allegations. It appears “Trump” is blocked by the search, but not “Trump “.
Epstein client list, does it exist or not?
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And now they’re removing files, including ones that included Trump references.
Big change from Bondi was flashing her Epstein binder full and promising to release everything. The PR stunt met reality.
Big change from Bondi was flashing her Epstein binder full and promising to release everything. The PR stunt met reality.
Meidas Touch reported on it:
Any other president, they would be out of the office by now by giant mob.
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Well I am just so appreciative that we just so happen to be living under the most "transparent administration in the history of the nation". They had the courage to do what is right and bare absolutely everything to the public so we can all finally get though this and find the closure we so badly need :
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I used to think that they did not release the Epstein Files because they were protecting powerful people. I have come full circle on this, and now believe they are not releasing the Epstein Files because they are protecting their leverage.
Probably. But due to the kinds of people involved in this, I bet there's a good bit of leverage floating around out there.
I wonder what the victims are thinking as they watch this all play out. Full accountability for the perpetrators would be ideal, but I think the reality will fall short. Does this give the victims some agency? It isn't enough. We should, though, think about this type of abuse all throughout our society, not just the worst cases.
The whole thing reminds me the Harvey Weinstein and Roger Ailes. Obviously, this is why worse as it involved under age girls. There are also likely other questionable things beyond human trafficking as well.
Oh, I know. I've seen things as bad as this, but nobody cares.
This is the sort of behaviour that Soviet bloc governments undertook. I’m now starting to think that the Republicans are going to claim to have won the MidTerms next year with 99% of the vote.
As pointed out elsewhere, if Trump's DOJ HAD actual evidence of Clinton doing ANYTHING hinky in the Epstein file dump, they would have released it with loud fanfare.
Basically all the photos released have just been "famous person stands next to a women who might be under-aged and might be a victim". It doesn't even begin to prove anything. Its just wild assumptions.
Which, well, the conspiracy theories are wild, and absolutely harming Trump. The way the case is being handled is alone enough to create conspiracy.
Which, well, the conspiracy theories are wild, and absolutely harming Trump. The way the case is being handled is alone enough to create conspiracy.
If they get even a slight majority in the House I'm sure Johnson or whatever toady is Speaker will just find himself way too busy to swear in any Democratic representatives.
The point isn't to convince people, the point is to let the people who want to believe the lie have something to hang on to.
Interesting that an older man's face is blacked out here with JE and Walter Cronkite. I thought only victims or minors were supposed to get that treatment
Who is he?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/lives...lease-live-updates-9.7022043?ts=1766193541248
I think there are very few pathways for anyone to be held accountable, given Epstein's intelligence connections and the CIA's power over Washington. Perhaps if any victims are given access to the files so they can find enough proof against their abusers to bring civil suits.
The FUD is working to prop up the mental gymnastics for the usual crowd. It’s borderline clever for the American Conservative subculture incapable of having a measured public conversation as they’re more invested in name calling and hot takes.
Release a bunch of photos where it’s easy to point out are pics of social events where famous people or socialites would attend, which in itself doesn’t prove guilt.
This is where the MAGA mental gymnastics - which I’ve already seen happening - takes over: “how come when it’s anyone else, the photos don’t prove guilt, but when it’s Trump it does? lol! TDS!”
/sigh
It’s not that hard to explain the difference but try as you might the mental gymnastics coaching by Fox News have done a wonderful job with conservative America priming them to accept anything being coached to them.
I don’t need to remind anyone the same (ex) Fox News coaches minimised statutory rape if these girls were in their late teens.
Release a bunch of photos where it’s easy to point out are pics of social events where famous people or socialites would attend, which in itself doesn’t prove guilt.
This is where the MAGA mental gymnastics - which I’ve already seen happening - takes over: “how come when it’s anyone else, the photos don’t prove guilt, but when it’s Trump it does? lol! TDS!”
/sigh
It’s not that hard to explain the difference but try as you might the mental gymnastics coaching by Fox News have done a wonderful job with conservative America priming them to accept anything being coached to them.
I don’t need to remind anyone the same (ex) Fox News coaches minimised statutory rape if these girls were in their late teens.
Epstein writes a letter to convicted sex offender Larry Nassau about fellow sex offender, Trump, how life is unfair because they got caught, and implies he (Epstein) committed suicide via the “short route”:
"In the hope they reach their full potential"? What fucking potential is he talking about? I really regret that Epstein didn't get dropped straight into genpop, because those guys, whatever else you think about them, tend to have very strong feelings about family and children.
Potential as idealized sex objects, I presume.
None of these people view women, let alone girls and children, as actual people with thoughts, personalities, ambition, or dreams.
I know they're sick and gross. I do wish he didn't get to take a shortcut.
Going to be honest, I was skeptical that there was anything this direct in the trove, and skeptical that the document releases would be this incompetent.
Fuck, man. We are going to nuke Venezuela at this rate.
As some people keep saying, they don’t act like people that are planning on leaving office, but also….they’re just all grossly incompetent. That doesn’t mean “not dangerous”, but none of these people got to where they are by being meticulous, hard working, driven people in any meaningful way.
I’m just looking forward to Bob Woodward doing the talk show circuit to plug his latest book in 2028, about all the sex crimes he knew about, let alone all the countless other ones, that he’s been sitting on exclusively for his book.
Rummaging around more of this and…it’s a lot.
Jmail.world is a site that put together the Epstein files in Gmail format to make it easier to read the correspondence, and there’s an FBI report that directly cites Trump as a witness and participant to things here. It’s on page 3 of a 4 page report and it deals with heavy matters, so some caution is warranted here (just text, but still).
Jmail.world is a site that put together the Epstein files in Gmail format to make it easier to read the correspondence, and there’s an FBI report that directly cites Trump as a witness and participant to things here. It’s on page 3 of a 4 page report and it deals with heavy matters, so some caution is warranted here (just text, but still).
Sometimes I try to zoom out and just look at everything that's been going on. Then I consider the stupid, greedy moral zeroes in charge. They know everything we do about the climate extinction event under way. There's no way they'll let themselves go extinct, so what's the shortest, easiest path to make sure they're ok without regard to anyone else?
Monopolize the energy industry, choke the economy, squander health care resources except what they need and all the other things they're doing to make sure they define winners and losers, and the losers just die. I'm sorry if that's grim, but that's the one that makes the most sense to me from this nonsense. Oh yeah, they'll need a private army with no compunction about committing violence.
They'll buy what they need from Russia (where they have a long history of defining winners and losers) or China. All they need to make is weapons to threaten everyone else. They'd totally do that. I'm not saying it's a great plan, but it is, IMO one they'd try to execute.
ETA: Everything else is just distraction to keep us occupied while they get all that into place.
ETA2: Look at the way they looked at those children. That letter? They would absolutely look at the rest of us the same way.
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The problems with these people in charge is this. They despise arts and culture. It's part of the reason why they seem to take such gleeful enjoyment in ruining the professions of arts and culture. Now then, poetry has never been a lucrative endeavour, but music has. Where are the protest songs now? Where are the Woody Guthries, Joe Hills, and Bob Dylan? Hunter S. Thompson would never qualify as a writer in today's NYT. Johnathan Swift would probably face charges for one of his books.
But that was written in 1919, for another time, another calamity, another crisis. But which part of it is not true today for the US? And given Yeats views, he would be considered a terrorism sympathiser today, and the centrists would shun him with (if they acknowledged him at all) with long-form articles in the papers of record.
You know what? Look at what is going on, really look at it until you get scared. Then move on to getting pissed, and you'll be fine.
ETA: Just to add to your point about how they despise arts and culture, they despise anything that's not useful to them. They'll only choose those who they can exploit to their advantage. That's it. Everyone else? They can just die.
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We have Jesse Welles. I bet he'd be happy to crank out a protest song about the "Epstein Class"
ETA: It wouldn't surprise me at all if he already has, as prolific as he is.
ETA2: There's a reason his stuff is nicknamed "fast folk" (as opposed to fast fashion).
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The Dropkick Murphys have been writing protest songs and performing at no kings rallies.
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So we're getting some details about the purported suicide note that Epstein tried to mail to fellow convicted sexual predator and pedo Larry Nassar.
Disgusting.
Disgusting.
He tried to mail that from prison? If so, I'd think he'd have to know it would be intercepted. All mail in and out is checked, or at least that's generally SOP.
I wonder if that was an attempt to make sure he had company, eventually.
Of course he did, that was obviously the whole point of writing the letter. I only skimmed about the first 30000 files of the Epstein estate dump, but it's pretty clear to me that he had grown to absolutely loathe Trump, and this was his last chance of trying to hurt him.
Yeah, that did seem pretty clear. Just checking. Those guys are rapists, assholes and backstabbers. It's who they are.
And in a truly telling example of how technologically advanced the Trump administration is, apparently some of the redactions of the Epstein files can be undone with relatively simple techniques. Like highlighting the text. Or running it through Photoshop.
You know, the kinds of approaches available only to state-sponsored actors.
You know, the kinds of approaches available only to state-sponsored actors.
I want to believe that there's some conscientious staffer at your Department of Justice who knew this would happen, but who could still show their superiors how to "redact" to get them off their back because their superiors are morons who are happy if they see a black page on the screen.