I think we all owe an apology to QANON. Turns out they were 100% correct that there was (is) an expansive ring of elites running a worldwide pedophilia network. Sure, they got that whole thing about it being run out of a pizza parlor in New Jersey wrong, but on the big picture they were 100% correct.
Epstein client list, does it exist or not?
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Supposedly, there's lots of use of "cheese pizza" and the like as coded language in the recent Epstein files.
Literally suspecting pizza restaurants was stupid, but I doubt there's any innocent explanation for using something with the initials "CP" at this point.
Which might apply to the pizzagate emails as well.
Yikes
Well, trump has said that the US should move on from this now given that with this latest release he isn't really involved in them 
. I guess that is the end of this thread then, the president has spoken after all 
Uh, so yea, the remaining 3-4 million items must be REALLY bad because he (and his wife and people in his admin) are heavily involved in what has been released; and this is with his little green men cleaning him out of them I wager.
. I guess that is the end of this thread then, the president has spoken after all Uh, so yea, the remaining 3-4 million items must be REALLY bad because he (and his wife and people in his admin) are heavily involved in what has been released; and this is with his little green men cleaning him out of them I wager.
Meh. QAnon wasn't pushing that theory in good conscience, they were pushing it because they had convinced themselves that there were dozens and dozens of Democrats who were participating. I suspect if they new the extent of the involvement of their Lord And Savior, Donald J. Trump, they would have dropped it like a hot potato. And don't forget that QAnon 's theory was based on ancient antisemitic themes about Jews drinking the blood of babies.
Oh, and that pizza parlor is in DC, Not NJ. Comet Pizza.
As far as I can tell, the claims about cannibalism are based on these two documents. Call me naive, but I don't find the claims of George H. W. Bush, Henry Kissinger, and George Soros (but of course!) going to a baby-shit-eating party all that credible. Also sexual abuse performed by generic "black men" is a bit of a red flag.
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet 9/EFTA01246048.pdf
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet 9/EFTA00147661.pdf
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet 9/EFTA01246048.pdf
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet 9/EFTA00147661.pdf
I think we have to make sure to take a step back and to ensure that we take each complaint credibly, but also substantiate such claims. I am sure there are at least a few claims that are simply not true, but there are almost certainly many claims that are absolutely true.
We also can't rule out cannibalism, murder, etc. here. Just because the claims are beyond the pale we are also well beyond instances that at least deserves a proper investigation.
One thing is certain. This whole case was never taken to the levels of seriousness across multiple presidencies, multiple states, heck multiple nations. And I get it. This is literally going after some of the most powerful people in politics, in culture, and historically we've all been poor at it.
We also can't rule out cannibalism, murder, etc. here. Just because the claims are beyond the pale we are also well beyond instances that at least deserves a proper investigation.
One thing is certain. This whole case was never taken to the levels of seriousness across multiple presidencies, multiple states, heck multiple nations. And I get it. This is literally going after some of the most powerful people in politics, in culture, and historically we've all been poor at it.
Well, trump has said that the US should move on from this now given that with this latest release he isn't really involved in them
Uh, so yea, the remaining 3-4 million items must be REALLY bad because he (and his wife and people in his admin) are heavily involved in what has been released; and this is with his little green men cleaning him out of them I wager.
IIRC, he met his wife through Epstein but I'm not 100% on that offhand. So she's certainly involved.
Also worth noting that the child's encoded diary explicitly mentions 'maralago' as to where she met some of the perpetrators involved.
Or, counterpoint, it was taken incredibly seriously by the rich & powerful, as evidenced by the lengths to which they went to suppress its contents.
QAnon etc are ideal tools to muddy the waters. Ridiculous accusations help discredit plausible accusations.
Remember most people aren't equipped to distinguish between them.
Remember most people aren't equipped to distinguish between them.
Given what we know about the personalities of at least some of the people involved, it's not crazy to think that the unknown is far far worse than the known or anything we've so far imagined.
Definitely keep the source of the claims in mind. A lot of the most horrific ones were anonymous, online complaints so high chances they are just shitposts.
The stuff from victims who have come forward in person is bad enough though
Considering that the known things include raping school aged girls, killing the infants, kidnapping and presumably selling the other infants, and the man responsible for this said Trump was the most vile person he had ever met, the things left out would probably lead to people being hung in the streets. Especially considering multiple people with ability to do something about it have not done so for so many years.
Sure must be nice to be involved a decades long sex trafficking and pedophile ring and be given the endless benefit of the doubt.
Good thing when one of the key perpetrators is completely okay with openly shooting a mother in the face under his orders and labeling her a terrorist or casually blowing up fishing boats for no reason or perpetuating an ongoing genocide so they can propose forcibly removing the locals to build a hotel they can profit directly off of, we should still remember maybe they’re not as bad or capable as some people think.
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Aw jeez.
Russia, Russia, Russia
Looks like Epstein was funded by Russia, the files mention Putin over a thousand times, and the sex-ring operation was a Russian honey pot to get kompromat on the world's elite.
Allegedly.
Just do a search on "Epstein Putin" from the past week.
One example:
Jeffrey Epstein 'Russian spy' claims emerge after files reveal Putin link
Russia, Russia, Russia
Looks like Epstein was funded by Russia, the files mention Putin over a thousand times, and the sex-ring operation was a Russian honey pot to get kompromat on the world's elite.
Allegedly.
Just do a search on "Epstein Putin" from the past week.
One example:
Jeffrey Epstein 'Russian spy' claims emerge after files reveal Putin link
Murder and infanticide is all over the place ... this is DENSE evidence. Many, many sources, which could have never know each other, saying some horrifying shit. The whole satanism / cannibalism thing I am sitting on the fence.
Here's the thing: raping school girls, kidnapping, and the murder of infants are all linked through motive: rich people want to get their rocks off without consequences, consent be damned. That thoroughly explains why those particular crimes seem to have plenty of evidence. But, that explanation doesn't really work for cannibalism. As a result, while it makes sense to suspect that the slavery, rape, and murder is much deeper than we know, it doesn't suggest that cannibalism is likely.
And, as I observed earlier, cannibalism is one of the oldest political smears. As such, we need specific evidence to corroborate such accusations before we start to assume that it's likely. Realistically, the benefit of the doubt isn't so much for the potential perpetrators. Instead it's an epistemic necessity to keep us grounded in something reasonably close to reality. The only real alternative is to loose ourselves in the conspiracy minded fantasy land where the moon landing are faked and the earth is flat. We don't need to become just a reflection of QAnon though a similarly twisted mirror.
Oh I don't disagree at all.
It needs to be investigated thoroughly. Things we thought were potentially far-fetched seem way to possible now.
Basically anyone that is having a conversation with, especially post-initial charges with Epstein must be held to scrutiny. Heck I would think if someone were named, and they are innocent, they would be literally publishing everything they could and welcoming investigation to clear their name of any potential wrongdoing.
My hope now is someone who is entrenched into this (hello Clinton, Gates) just go nuclear and spill it all. Publicly. Now. Hole a press conferences. I know it won't happen. Sure the Clinton's want to hold public hearings. But i still suspect that they worst info will be cleverly pushed aside.
Especially Gates should be able to go full nuclear. As far as I understand it, he only did Russian (adult) prostitutes. Bill Clinton should also be able to go totally scorched earth on Trump.
Without any hard evidence I doubt Bill Gates actually did any prostitutes, Russian or otherwise.
I wouldn't bet money on that. He definitely likes much younger women so it's conceivable that the line was crossed
Phrasing!
His ex-wife broke up with him over this several years ago. In fact the emails show he contracted and STD from Epstein's "girls" and tried to get antibiotics to dose his wife with without her knowledge.
https://www.npr.org/2026/02/03/nx-s...d-bill-gates-being-mentioned-in-epstein-files
In the weird space of my communities slamming into each other. There's an absolutely VICIOUS takedown of the atheist "manosphere" that developed around certain people who were frequently emailing Epstein. My favorite part of it is how absolutely much Epstein hated Lawrence Krauss.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoO9FZXUgv4
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoO9FZXUgv4
Does it? The hard evidence would be medical records showing that he caught an STD around that time. Someone like Epstein isn't a trustworthy source.
What I don’t understand is what is being investigated. The guy that went on Fox News and was like “It’s not illegal to party with Epstein” well what are you doing to find out what happened? Why is Musk’s brother not being brought in for questioning? Why isn’t Bill Gates? It’s like the Simpsons meme of “We’ve tried nothing and we are all out of ideas.”
Who's going to punish the kings?
Let's not get it twisted; The US population in large looks at these people as winners and almost gods depending on the dingaling in question (Musk for starters). No one at least in this country is going to do anything cause we don't mess with our gods.
Let's not get it twisted; The US population in large looks at these people as winners and almost gods depending on the dingaling in question (Musk for starters). No one at least in this country is going to do anything cause we don't mess with our gods.
It's pretty clear from the way Epstein dealt with, well, basically everyone that he had no loyalty to any country or ideal. He'd work for Putin because he'd work for anyone or everyone who had the right kind of power.
I'm sure it was money at first (which might well have been Russian mob money) but after a while it's about power.
Like we're seeing this in the UK with the information Mandelson sold him, it was super fucking cheap, riding up to the edge of treason for a five figure payout. It ain't just money, it's power.
And that's also where all this being a vile rapist and paedo shitbag came from. It feels like power.
Clinton is smart enough to troll Trump hard. He can say that Trump was his little bitch, gave him oral and was begging for more.
Clinton can invent anything and go full scorched earth. Here is the proof I was on the island at dates xyz, and here is the proof that Trump was also there...
And the only way for Trump to legally go after Clinton is to place himself into jeopardy for things much worse.
It’s a fine line to walk. It’s been established there is a two tier justice system, which Trump is bending closer to his will. It’s a game of high-stakes lawfare where the rules are ever changing to benefit those in power.
Is Warren Buffett the only famous "normal" billionaires around? He still do a lot of anti-consumers/workers things on how his companies is run, but at least within the realm of normal business level of "bad".
Or famous usually equals to lost sense of right vs. wrong?
Or famous usually equals to lost sense of right vs. wrong?
Oh I'm sure he's terrible but at least he keeps it quiet.
Not like a lot of these mustache twirling assholes.
I understand the fear around falling for conspiracy theories, but we're never going to get this kind of hard evidence. Especially since no one is investigating the files.
Americans are going to have to make judgments based on incomplete information. Proving any of this beyond a reasonable doubt is not possible--but it is also not required to justify removing people from office.
George Soros. Conservatives hate him, but AFAIK the dirt they imagine they have on him is pretty much entirely fabricated.
No one gets to that level of cashola without being a bad person minus I guess lottery winners.
Buffet/Soros may not have eaten babies and raped the villages but they certainly have done many things unsavory/immoral or whatever to get there.
You don't go oligarch fostering stray puppies and running the church bake sale.
Edit: And why are we trying to find 'good' oligarchs? They should ALL be stripped bare and resources re-distributed. Maybe fund some medicare for all or something worthwhile.
Buffet/Soros may not have eaten babies and raped the villages but they certainly have done many things unsavory/immoral or whatever to get there.
You don't go oligarch fostering stray puppies and running the church bake sale.
Edit: And why are we trying to find 'good' oligarchs? They should ALL be stripped bare and resources re-distributed. Maybe fund some medicare for all or something worthwhile.
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back on the eating babies part... I am not even sure that is crazy enough to be 100% fake.
There is this guy who injection his son's blood and he is only millionaire.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bryan_Johnson#Anti-aging_attempts
There is also a long held myth that placenta help with anti-aging. Jumping to babies eating is not as crazy given what we know how some of these people thinking already.
There is this guy who injection his son's blood and he is only millionaire.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bryan_Johnson#Anti-aging_attempts
There is also a long held myth that placenta help with anti-aging. Jumping to babies eating is not as crazy given what we know how some of these people thinking already.
Also wasn't Peter Thiel involved in some crazy life extension BS? Oh yeah, found this https://www.theguardian.com/science...ires-are-trying-to-reverse-the-ageing-process
All these people, jesus, they just don't feel like part of common humanity.