“Robotaxi” and “Cybercab” are too unoriginal to trademark, USPTO tells Tesla

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Who's taking the bets that Trump will order USPTO to issue the patent to help out his little autistic billionaire buddie? Also what are the odds that this then begins a legal battle ultimately headed to SCOTUS?
Oh yeah, no, we're not doing this. We have no idea whether Musk is autistic to any degree at all, and if he is, that has no relevance to his business decisions, deceptive and fraudulent business practices, or radical politics.
 
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Soooo… here’s the piece I don’t get. If Elon had gone all in on LIDAR in the beginning with the same approach he brought to batteries - iterative improvement, own the manufacturing process, make building the things super efficient - he’d have relatively inexpensive LIDAR that he could make a selling point in all his vehicles. That would substantially improve FSD for an investment that’s a drop in the bucket relative to Tesla’s valuation. His intransigence on LIDAR is just baffling.
There's a point in his life when he might have. But at this point, his ego is so destabilized by wealth, power, and isolation from anybody willing to call bullshit on him that he cannot possibly admit error, fault, or mistake in any way. If he said no part is the best part, and vision is the only and best way, he cannot bring himself to backtrack on that.

Same reason the Cybertruck looks like that, and Robotaxi is so manifestly unsuited to actual taxi service; once he has committed publicly to something, the humiliation of reversing course is too unbearable to consider, and he has to ride the tiger - even though he had plenty of chances not to hop on its back at all.
 
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Did I mention which autistic billionaire buddy? You seem to assume I was referring to Musk! And I made no reference to Musks business practices! Gee, maybe the GOP needs to investigate the biased liberal policies of online board post?

https://www.axios.com/2022/04/15/elon-musk-aspergers-syndrome

Edit: add possible AI generated fake news link
Can we skip the part where we play this game because you seem to think I'm a total idiot, and just fast forward to where I tell you to eat my shorts with hollandaise?
 
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Also, this has already been pointed out by many people, but the Robotaxi pisses me off so much, because it's just the dumbest fucking possible take on a taxi. Look at any vehicle in wide use as a taxi, past or present, whether that's a Checker cab or a London cab or a Hindustan Motors Ambassador or a Crown Vic or a NV200 or whatever. They all have in common seating for 4-5 passengers, a large cargo area, a relatively high stance and hip point, a high-riding suspension with plenty of travel, and (at least for modern vehicles) handicap accessibility.

The Robotaxi has NONE of those things. Not one motherfucking item on that list. Not one thing that makes a taxi a good taxi made it to this clean-sheet design for a vehicle that can only be used for autonomous ride-sharing. Two couples sharing a cab down to the club? Not happening. Wheelchair? Fuck you. Parent with two children in car seats going to the airport? Tough. Old people? Fuck 'em. Four suitcases? Take a Waymo. Family trying to cross town to see the sights? Better walk.

It's so fucking stupid.
 
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Like he revolutionised digging tunnels, making electric pickups, electric semis, self driving itself, and all the other things he promised without delivering on?

Yes, he succeeded at space flight, and yes batteries have become cheaper, but that's one success with space flight, one following the global trend in batteries (Tesla isn't the only one making batteries cheaper), and many claims and promises not delivered.

Tesla didn't make batteries cheaper, batteries got cheaper while Tesla was making (or getting others to make) batteries.
When you look at the record, it looks less like unique brilliance in making impossible things happen and more like two spots of luck and good timing in a life full of bashing his forehead against so many brick walls a few of them had to have cracks.
 
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When a "Subscriptor" decides to act as a "Moderator" with an presumptious editorial then I'd say the "game" is triggered. Dood... if you don't like my post then you can downvote it like a fair number of people did! So pull your shorts out of your crack and give them a good wash in your PC bucket.
How about I do both? Because telling you that you're being a bigoted asshole, and that doing so is unacceptable, with or without the merited downvote you also got, isn't moderating you, it's just less pushback than you really merit for being a bigoted asshole. This is how social interaction works when you choose to say things that are shitty and prejudiced.

But thanks for picking a user handle that really checks out.
 
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Wow! Now I'm a prejudiced bigot? Are you bringing race into this discussion? Who's the asshole then? I used an apparently fact based descriptive term that Musk essentially acknowleged and the PC Police Dogs attack? Get a grip... perhaps that's an issue that hits close to home?
Yes, my son is autistic. You did indeed hit close to home! By characterizing Musk - someone who has never been formally diagnosed with autism or any other disorder - primarily with his notional autism you have validated autism as an excuse or reason for his actions and therefore insulted all people with autism in general and my son in particular. And so I will continue shaming you for it till you apologize, get banned, or go radio silent out of cowardice.

Moving on to the issue getting a grip, you're throwing a multi-post, whiny, indignant little tantrum over a bit of social pushback after saying something offensive and unacceptable. You shit all over the floor hoping someone would just kick it under the sofa, and now you're whining about having your nose rubbed in it...so get a grip yourself, big dog. You could have just said "oh, sorry, didn't mean that" and moved on, but you tripled down.
 
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That we know of.
Sure. But regardless, whatever the reasons he's worthless fascist asshole trying to launch an anocratic oligarchy? If he is autistic, autism is not the most salient feature of his personality or worth mentioning in criticism or praise, and if he's not, then why bring it up at all.
 
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You have to remember that the robotaxis wasn't designed to be a taxi, it was designed to be their $20.000 vehicle to sell to the public.
Righto, because if anything has its finger on the pulse of the US auto market, it's a two-door coupe that can't accomidate a child seat.

It's like dumbception. It's dumb in layers.
 
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How so? I mean setting aside that it almost assuredly can't actually achieve Level 4 autonomy... Why is it not ok for taxi service?
You mean besides relying on an autonomous driving suite that can't drive autonomously and having a form factor, seat/door count, and internal volume manifestly unsuited to being accessible, functional transportation for a wide cross-section of humans? I dunno, you fill in the gaps.
 
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I have tried. 86% of all taxi rides are by single riders. 1 or 2 passengers is over 90%. So why is a taxi that can only handle 1-2 passengers automatically bad? Please more thought into it than "Musk bad....therefore bad". You are behaving no worse than MAGAs.
So 15% of all taxi rides, what, don't matter? Passengers with more than a small carry-on don't matter? Passengers with car seats don't matter? There's a fucking reason most cabs are either sedans or vans, and it's not because cab operators are cool with leaving 15% of their rides standing on the curb. Or ten, five, one percent, for that matter. There's no reason for a taxi not to cover over 99% or more of the foreseeable actual rides.

If you aren't dickriding for Musk, it's sure not clear to me how your argument would be substantively different if you were.
 
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Too lazy to do a search to verify?


View: https://medium.com/@muhammadaris10/nyc-taxi-trip-data-analysis-45ecfdcb6f91


First link found. Almost 94% of rides were 1-2 passengers.

And so what? If 10 people need a taxi now...what do they do? They won't fit in nearly any taxi/uber/etc. Oh no! If more than 2...I guess they could wait for a larger vehicle, specify that in the app...or...get this...take 2+ taxis! The HORROR. How will they ever survive?

Or they could just take the ride offered by a cab company that's not aggressively indifferent to their needs. Why pay for two rides? Why wait for a larger vehicle? Why not just take the vehicle that works for all the riders, not 86%, or 94%, or 99% of them?

The mask is slipping. You're bad at this. This is a stupid fucking car to be a cab. You don't actually need to defend a lazy, stupid, halfassed position.
 
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