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Meta kills diversity programs, claiming DEI has become “too charged”
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Wow.
So many people who cannot comprehend that inherent racism and sexism is an issue.
You can tell the people who have never had to hide their real name or sex just to not be ruled out before an interview.
So many people who cannot comprehend that inherent racism and sexism is an issue.
You can tell the people who have never had to hide their real name or sex just to not be ruled out before an interview.
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Of course the problem with justifying ANY decision as "too political" is that anything can be turned political if some people decide to turn it political - existing as black or lgbtq or Jewish or Muslim human beings has often been "too political". Existing as a woman and living your life by doing things like wearing pants or walking in public without a male escort or trying to get a job or share an opinion has for much of history been "too political". It's a terrible excuse for decisions.
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Perhaps you don't really need to keep in touch with as many people as you're now accustomed to. I don't use Facebook because I don't care what my classmates from twenty years ago are doing, what my friends cooked for dinner last night, or see photos of their kids doing this and that. I stay up to date with people who are currently an important part of my life. For the others, I find it really pleasant to sit down and catch up if I haven't seen them in a long time.
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Once again for those in the cheap seats: If you think DEI is discrimination you don't know what DEI actually is. And you certainly don't know what discrimination is.
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Also, I want to point out that I deliberately didn't specify a particular demographic they are most like or attribute it to malice. This is just how people are. We seek out familiarity and comfort and a lot of the time that means faces that look like ours. Names that sound like ours. People who went the same school as us. Diversity initiatives serve to help us be aware of unconscious biases so that we actually consider the candidates on their merits.
And diversity is on its own a merit to the company because diverse viewpoints and experiences mean diverse means of solving problems and seeing opportunities for new products and markets.
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I get the focus on FB/Meta due to the tech angle, but they're also not alone in DEI rollbacks. Over the past month I've seen several other companies in the news taking similar action, Walmart and McDonald's being the most recent in my feed that I remember. The excuse given is fear of "reverse racism" suits (not actually the term used, but pretty much what the press releases boiled down to). Is it the real reason? IDK, they may also just be trying to cozy up to the administration expecting preferential treatment.
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Yes, it appears that they have never been part of a DEI hiring process. I'm in a liberal company in a very blue state. DEI means our HR take the time to strip name, age and other person info off any resumes so we just get a list of numbered applicants resumes with their education and history to judge them by. We typically have no clue to age or race until after we have already ranked them all and are having interviews with our top rated candidates.
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That's what I have been saying. Putin took YEARS to intimidate and kill oligarchs, journalists, and anyone who crossed him, but Trump is not even in power yet. America is rolling over to a dictatorship at the speed of light, compared to Russia. I guess we peaked as a democracy, everyone is kind of tired of it.
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Then we should be reaching out to people of other skin colors and backgrounds besides just rich white people. Cause that's all DEI is: Reaching out to those traditionally underrepresented groups, broadening your talent pool.
Anyone who claims that companies were hiring purely based on skin color is a racist fuckhead.
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That's easy: democratic politicians are spineless fucking babies who are categorically incapable of fighting corporations because they are fundamentally of a kind.
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Even if that were true (it's not; that's a complete fucking lie), the executives at any company are more expendable.
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No, in practice too. You have no idea what you're talking about.
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Then your company is run by morons and you should quit. Every DEI program I've run into is run the right way, it's a combination of scrubbing out indicators on the applications and training people to recognize their own biases. And it works.
AGAIN for those in the cheap seats, DEI != Quotas. Never. That's not what it's about and anyone claiming it is either needs to cough up hard evidence or admit that they don't know what DEI is.
Except that the anti-DEI folks are outright claiming that to be qualified you have to be white and male. Start listening to them and and pretending you know what's going on.
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Nobody has ever, in any form, "discriminated against white people." Finding that you can't compete because minorities, when given a chance, are actually more talented than mediocre white guys, is not discrimination.
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Imagine being so racist and sexist that you think only straight white men should be considered for positions.
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Indeed. My ignore list is getting quite the workout thanks to this thread.
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Nope. That comment was a flat out lie, which had literally no understanding whatsoever of what DEI is. It's nothing but pure right wing propaganda, just like your post is. We need less of it in the world.
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The people here hating on DEI are the same ones who think Trump is more qualified than Harris, Clinton, or Obama.
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Don't you know? Straight, white men can never be failures. They can only be failed.
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Zuck is a wet noodle bending to whoever is in power precisely like Mitch McConnell. For a billionaire to posture so much they are the trail-blazer why is he following rather than leading? The rhetoric that fact-checkers are "politically biased" just made me snap. I WANT HIM TAKEN OUT LIKE BRIAN THOMPSON. How's that for free speech?
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Interesting that no one has made the suggestion here that he's bending the knee and pleasing Trump to get Trump to not save TikTok. He benefits massively from TikTok being kicked out of the US.
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Celery Man
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I fail to see how including a diverse set of viewpoints is anything but a positive for any company, much less one focused on engineering, but I’m also not an MBA or a RWNJ, so what do I know?
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Any view beyond "I will accept the lowest salary you offer" is heresy to the Job Creators.
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He might have not said that, since there do not seem to be any original sources with that quote in English or Italian. https://politicalresearch.org/2005/01/12/mussolini-corporate-state
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Yeah, it's pretty easy to tell who in this thread realizes - most likely only at a subconscious level - that they would have a much harder time competing in a world that didn't disadvantage 70+% of society for their benefit.
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I remember the days of people calling those of us pointing out that Mark Zuckerberg is a white supremacist and collaborator with fascists “crazy”.
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Do you guys even know a conservative?
How can we not? Trump hasn't shut the fuck up for 10 years.
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I recommend against engaging with the window lickers. Just take the opportunity to throw em on your ignore list, it's better that way.
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Here's the thing. I'm a hiring manager. My company, not being run by a bag of shitstains, implemented DEI and made sure all the hiring managers got training in what it was and what it wasn't. And repeated that until people got a clue.
So I can state with great confidence that you've got a warped and twisted view of what DEI is.
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Because unlike you, we aren't terrified of women or minorities taking our jobs or place in society if given equal opportunity.
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