From espionage to home recording, the colourful life of the longest-used audio medium.
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[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=32368087#p32368087:294gog4f said:dlux[/url]":294gog4f]Those guys were stealthy, but also strong:[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=32367851#p32367851:294gog4f said:stormcrash[/url]":294gog4f]...the Ghost Army...
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(That's a topic that's fascinating on its own.)
That's how wars should be fought. And after a tough day both sides get together at a pub and the loser buys the first round.[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=32369301#p32369301:3sgbb34d said:Oldmanalex[/url]":3sgbb34d]I remember an ex-Air Force guy telling me about their faux-squadron, they lined up on a dummy airfield in the desert. One day a German fighter bomber flew low over the airfield and dropped a bomb in the middle of the runway. It did not explode, and after waiting a while, so as not to get caught by a delay fused bomb, they cautiously went out to see what went wrong. The bomb was made of wood.
That is the origin of tapping telephone wires.[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=32352287#p32352287:1waqm0sk said:cbreak[/url]":1waqm0sk]I would have expected "Wire Tap" to come from tapping the wires of a phone / telegraph / whatever.
[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=32365663#p32365663:3g8pybo2 said:unequivocal[/url]":3g8pybo2]I believe modern commercial airplanes use this technology in their black boxes. I think the stainless steel wires are on a continuous loop, so that the black box records some number of hours of data on the wire and the records over the old data.
The advantage is that even if the black box itself is ruptured, the data on the wire wire, even if the wire is severed, will still be recoverable and playable, unless it's been heated over the curie temperature for stainless steel.
[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=32366449#p32366449:2wgddx3x said:mltdwn[/url]":2wgddx3x]I still have my grandfather's wire recorder sitting in my study. I never use it and have no spools for it but it is a magnificent thing and still in mint condition. They knew how to make products back then. Course I also have his 1950s era circular saw that is made of chromed steel and still works like a champ.
The computer was SEAC 1950 to 1964.[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=32365055#p32365055:1ug6oa5s said:nbs2[/url]":1ug6oa5s]A quibble and a question
Quibble - usage into the 70s yields an eventual lifespan of 72-81 years. Vinyl, at 67, is neither a relative spring chicken or dead, and will likely surpass wire recording's lifetime.
Question - mention is made of a debated stored program computer. Can someone provide more information about this?
Sheet music is the original audio format[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=32365485#p32365485:pd06ri5i said:ChadD[/url]"d06ri5i]
[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=32351491#p32351491:pd06ri5i said:bongbong[/url]"d06ri5i]is it really accurate to call wire recording or tape or vinyl, an audio format?
Im not trying to sound smart alecky or be a nitpicker.
but is this the proper form so i can use it without error since the audio formats i know are flac, wav ,mp3 etc which I KNOW are file fomats.
wont audio device be a better term?
BTW their recovery methods are brilliant and awe inspiring
Of course... the word format does predate the internet. lol
We have always used it when comparing any two items that perform similar jobs in a different non interchangeable way.
Also before the internet people said things like, does that movie store rent VHS or Beta format movies. Old computer magazines used to publish basic language programs that would state which format they where intended for.
So yes audio format is the correct term. I guess if you wanted to get technical you could say Analog audio format. Although if you called Mp3/Flac/ogg ect digital audio format... then what would you classify something like a Sony Mini Disc reader using ATAC... Physical digital audio format?![]()
The original Firesign Theatre video is on Youtube[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=32366835#p32366835:3m5v4cfd said:twinstronglord[/url]":3m5v4cfd][url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=32365183#p32365183:3m5v4cfd said:Hopefully Smarter[/url]":3m5v4cfd]According to the Firesign Theatre, the Aztecs invented the wire recorder.
citation: Everything You Know Is Wrong (1974)
I came here to see or make the FT reference. I was hoping I wasn't the only person that would immediately make the connection. Triggered one hell of a nostalgia trip. I recall learning a great deal about audio formats and converting analogue to digital just to preserve my sadly inherited Firesign Theatre albums.
Great article, but what was missing was a look at how they work. But again the wonderfully curious (and pedantic) Ars readers are on the ball with links.
And may as well drop a favorite line from that album
"Hush now. It's a new world, Honey. Nobody gowan have to be a slave all the time no more. We gowan to take to toins. And guess who's toin it is now! Ahuaw huaw huaw!"
That was a problem with Woody's music ... He never played a piece the same way twice[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=32366925#p32366925:1ms3tf05 said:palisade[/url]":1ms3tf05]When I was listening to Woody Guthrie's "Grand Coulee Dam" I pulled up the lyrics on google and found they didn't match. The lyrics I'm hearing go something like this:
This old world has seven wonders a travelling salesman tells
Some gardens and some towers (flowers?), I guess you know them well
But, ahhhh the greatest wonder in Old Sam's fair land
Oh in King Columbia River it's that big Grand Coulee Dam
She heads up the Canadian Rockies where the rippling waters glide
Comes a-rumbling down her canyon to meet that salty tide
Of that wide Pacific Ocean where the sun shines in the west
And that big Grand Coulee country that's the land I love the best
She rides down a granite canyon and she bends across the lean
Like a silver running stallion down her seabed she does sheen
Catched a ride upon the biggest thing yeah built by human hands
It's that King Columbia River and the big Grand Coulee Dam
In the misty crystal glitter of that wild and windward spray
We carved the mighty history of the sacrifices made
Well she ripped our boats a-splinter, so she'd give us things to dream
Of the day that Coulee Dam would cross that wild and wasted stream
Uncle Sam took up this challenge in the year of Thirty three
For the farmer and the worker and for all of you and me
He said, "Roll along Columbia. You can ramble to the sea."
But river while you're rollin' you can do some work for me
Now up in Washington and Oregon you hear the factories hum
Making chrome and making manganese and light aluminum
And there flies a super rocket ship across this land of pots and pans
Spawned upon that King Columbia by the big Grand Coulee Dam
In the misty crystal glitter of that wild and windward spray
We carved the mighty history of the sacrifices made
Well, she tore our boats to splinters but she gave us dreams to dream
Of the day the Coulee Dam would cross that wild and wasted stream
Connect a wire recorder to the cassette recorder port of a digital output device and you have a digital wire recording. You can be sure that at least one computer hacker (hobbyist meaning[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=32364449#p32364449:7n4d3hyo said:Danathar[/url]":7n4d3hyo]I wonder, was there ever an attempt to do digital recording onto a wire? Something incredibly long lasting might be useful somehow.
I'd imagine the bitrate would be pathetically low by today's standards, but with enough wire you could record something digitally and archive it for a VERY long time.
[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=32366925#p32366925:31q2ky42 said:palisade[/url]":31q2ky42]When I was listening to Woody Guthrie's "Grand Coulee Dam" I pulled up the lyrics on google and found they didn't match. The lyrics I'm hearing go something like this:
This old world has seven wonders a travelling salesman tells
Some gardens and some towers (flowers?), I guess you know them well
But, ahhhh the greatest wonder in Old Sam's fair land
Oh in King Columbia River it's that big Grand Coulee Dam
She heads up the Canadian Rockies where the rippling waters glide
Comes a-rumbling down her canyon to meet that salty tide
Of that wide Pacific Ocean where the sun shines in the west
And that big Grand Coulee country that's the land I love the best
She rides down a granite canyon and she bends across the lean
Like a silver running stallion down her seabed she does sheen
Catched a ride upon the biggest thing yeah built by human hands
It's that King Columbia River and the big Grand Coulee Dam
In the misty crystal glitter of that wild and windward spray
We carved the mighty history of the sacrifices made
Well she ripped our boats a-splinter, so she'd give us things to dream
Of the day that Coulee Dam would cross that wild and wasted stream
Uncle Sam took up this challenge in the year of Thirty three
For the farmer and the worker and for all of you and me
He said, "Roll along Columbia. You can ramble to the sea."
But river while you're rollin' you can do some work for me
Now up in Washington and Oregon you hear the factories hum
Making chrome and making manganese and light aluminum
And there flies a super rocket ship across this land of pots and pans
Spawned upon that King Columbia by the big Grand Coulee Dam
In the misty crystal glitter of that wild and windward spray
We carved the mighty history of the sacrifices made
Well, she tore our boats to splinters but she gave us dreams to dream
Of the day the Coulee Dam would cross that wild and wasted stream
But later on, during the 1930s and again in World War II, the secret services of several nations would use wire recordings, massively sped up, to broadcast on shortwave radio to their agents in the field. The agents would be standing by, ready to "wire tape" these broadcasts, already aware of the exact tempo to play them back at. Of course, the enemy could sometimes decipher these broadcasts if they had enough experts and wire recorders with which to try speed experiments...
[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=32371157#p32371157:37br9eho said:Mazarin[/url]":37br9eho]But later on, during the 1930s and again in World War II, the secret services of several nations would use wire recordings, massively sped up, to broadcast on shortwave radio to their agents in the field. The agents would be standing by, ready to "wire tape" these broadcasts, already aware of the exact tempo to play them back at. Of course, the enemy could sometimes decipher these broadcasts if they had enough experts and wire recorders with which to try speed experiments...
That's silly. The reason "squirt" transmissions were used was to make them more difficult to intercept and record by the enemy, and to prevent triangulation of the sender. The latter was particularly important if the sender was a field agent in an occupied country. If the transmission was recorded by the enemy, then slowing it down so that the characters could be distinguished was a trivial problem. Usually, the messages would be sent in Morse or a similar encoding scheme, so you would just slow the recording until you got the dots and dashes. After that, reading the message was a question of how well it was encrypted in the first place.
[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=32370455#p32370455:2dcv9t3q said:Fritzr[/url]":2dcv9t3q]Sheet music is the original audio format[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=32365485#p32365485:2dcv9t3q said:ChadD[/url]":2dcv9t3q][url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=32351491#p32351491:2dcv9t3q said:bongbong[/url]":2dcv9t3q]is it really accurate to call wire recording or tape or vinyl, an audio format?
Im not trying to sound smart alecky or be a nitpicker.
but is this the proper form so i can use it without error since the audio formats i know are flac, wav ,mp3 etc which I KNOW are file fomats.
wont audio device be a better term?
BTW their recovery methods are brilliant and awe inspiring
Of course... the word format does predate the internet. lol
We have always used it when comparing any two items that perform similar jobs in a different non interchangeable way.
Also before the internet people said things like, does that movie store rent VHS or Beta format movies. Old computer magazines used to publish basic language programs that would state which format they where intended for.
So yes audio format is the correct term. I guess if you wanted to get technical you could say Analog audio format. Although if you called Mp3/Flac/ogg ect digital audio format... then what would you classify something like a Sony Mini Disc reader using ATAC... Physical digital audio format?![]()
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Reproduction from the stored form is definitely an art form with this storage format and fidelity to the original is often lost in the playback.
[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=32351491#p32351491:171gans8 said:bongbong[/url]":171gans8]is it really accurate to call wire recording or tape or vinyl, an audio format?
Im not trying to sound smart alecky or be a nitpicker.
but is this the proper form so i can use it without error since the audio formats i know are flac, wav ,mp3 etc which I KNOW are file fomats.
wont audio device be a better term?
BTW their recovery methods are brilliant and awe inspiring
No. Tape players were usually set up to handle iron oxide tapes (Type I) or chromium/cobalt oxides (Type II), which were very similar. Type IV wasn't oxide at all, but actual metal particles. They needed different bias and equalization.[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=32364733#p32364733:261dhbdu said:Umbaglo[/url]":261dhbdu]Is this format what was being referred to by all my old tape players that had a switch for various tape formats that included "Metal" as one of them? I don't remember ever seeing any alternate tape format at the time, but I remember thinking "Metal" was certainly a strange one specifically.
Then you will lack context in many topics throughout your life. Enjoy your self-inflicted ignorance.[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=32371937#p32371937:3vxww0kr said:speedr[/url]":3vxww0kr]This is out of place on Ars. I probably don't speak for myself alone when I say that younger, tech-savvy people (20s) don't want to hear about dinosaur devices.
I think you've got that backwards. Bruce was a big admirer of Woody Guthrie. "There was always some spiritual center amid Woody's songs," Springsteen said in 1996. "He always projected a sense of good times in the face of it all. He always got you thinking about the next guy, he took you out of yourself. I guess his idea was salvation isn't individual. Maybe we don't rise and fall on our own."[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=32365773#p32365773:3coz20th said:markratledge[/url]":3coz20th]Old Woody Guthrie sounds like Bruce Springsteen![]()
so do we need to get off your virtual grass or something? dont like it dont read it.[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=32371937#p32371937:12b5dau3 said:speedr[/url]":12b5dau3]I can't put my finger on why, but this article really bothers me. (Besides the grating spelling 'peirce' of the device pictured.)
Is Ars now trying to get readership in a new demographic? Is it time to try to attract the Olds to Ars?
This is out of place on Ars. I probably don't speak for myself alone when I say that younger, tech-savvy people (20s) don't want to hear about dinosaur devices.
The celebration of anything "Analog" in the digital age really rubs me the wrong way, like a scuff on a brand new shiny. The baby boomers aren't going to come. Stick with real technology that matters, maybe?
We're in a far better age now, but the old people won't let go of romanticizing when the human race had to stumble so badly. Every and any device in your bag or pocket replaces this thing, even better.
I understand the anthropological angle, but this is a tech site, not an anthropology exhibit.
I'm not sure where you've been, but this is part of a ongoing "Forgotten Audio Formats" series that started back in March with the Highway Hi-Fi:[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=32371937#p32371937:1wb8ryfn said:speedr[/url]":1wb8ryfn]I can't put my finger on why, but this article really bothers me. (Besides the grating spelling 'peirce' of the device pictured.)
Is Ars now trying to get readership in a new demographic? Is it time to try to attract the Olds to Ars?
This is out of place on Ars...
The arrogance of your ignorance is awe inspiring...[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=32371937#p32371937:3fu4n1ki said:speedr[/url]":3fu4n1ki]..."tech-savvy people (20s) don't want to hear about dinosaur devices. .........The celebration of anything "Analog" in the digital age really rubs me the wrong way.......... Stick with real technology that matters....... the old people won't let go of romanticizing ............ this is a tech site, not an anthropology exhibit"....
[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=32370421#p32370421:285q2kgu said:Fritzr[/url]":285q2kgu]
SEAC also used a loose tape auxiliary memory subsystem. (The tape was simply stored loose in a cabinet, not on a spool, as an endless loop that passed through the tape drive mechanism.
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I'm guessing the cabinet is only as deep as the tape is wide, meaning the only place new tape entering it could go is laying on top of the earlier tape.[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=32386987#p32386987:1w1jz1hn said:Oak[/url]":1w1jz1hn][url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=32370421#p32370421:1w1jz1hn said:Fritzr[/url]":1w1jz1hn]
SEAC also used a loose tape auxiliary memory subsystem. (The tape was simply stored loose in a cabinet, not on a spool, as an endless loop that passed through the tape drive mechanism.
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How on Earth did that not knot up constantly???
I'm guessing the cabinet is only as deep as the tape is wide, meaning the only place new tape entering it could go is laying on top of the earlier tape.[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=32386987#p32386987:1vajev6s said:Oak[/url]":1vajev6s][url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=32370421#p32370421:1vajev6s said:Fritzr[/url]":1vajev6s]
SEAC also used a loose tape auxiliary memory subsystem. (The tape was simply stored loose in a cabinet, not on a spool, as an endless loop that passed through the tape drive mechanism.
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How on Earth did that not knot up constantly???