Verizon’s $70 gigabit Internet is half the price of older 750Mbps tier
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"Bundles of the gigabit service with Verizon's Custom TV and digital voice start at "$79.99 in year one and $84.99 in year two, with a two-year agreement," Verizon said. Those prices will rise after customer agreements expire, but Verizon said it doesn't have the future prices yet."
Screw four things,
bundles
unknown price changes.
multi year agreements.
verizon
Screw four things,
bundles
unknown price changes.
multi year agreements.
verizon
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Fucking FIOS. You were the Google Fiber of your day.
Why can I not get gigabit in Silicon Valley. It's just ridiculous.
Why can I not get gigabit in Silicon Valley. It's just ridiculous.
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I am am sort of ok with this one. If you include the overhead then it is a gbps link. The advertising is wrong but the fact is not. Probably just needs another competitor to do better and get the FCC? FTC? or whoever polices ads to make them fix it.
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I was having a problem with my FIOS ONT, so a tech came out and replaced it with an all new one. The tech said my old ONT couldn't support speeds over 150/150, so Verizon was just replacing old ONTs with new ones whenever an old one broke.
I imagine they're also sending techs out to replace ONTs when people upgrade to higher-speed service.
Tech also rewired a Cat5 cable that had been used for landline phone (which I don't subscribe to anymore), so that the router was plugged into the ONT via Ethernet, to support higher speeds.
Finally, he mentioned my current speed (25/25) wasn't available to new subscribers anymore, and that Verizon has good offers on faster speed tiers. I'll have to go in and look how much, if any, a speed upgrade will cost me.
I imagine they're also sending techs out to replace ONTs when people upgrade to higher-speed service.
Tech also rewired a Cat5 cable that had been used for landline phone (which I don't subscribe to anymore), so that the router was plugged into the ONT via Ethernet, to support higher speeds.
Finally, he mentioned my current speed (25/25) wasn't available to new subscribers anymore, and that Verizon has good offers on faster speed tiers. I'll have to go in and look how much, if any, a speed upgrade will cost me.
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Fios has been "coming soon" to my area since forever.
Hey Verizon, roll it out everywhere and take my money!
I promise to switch from my current cable provider immediately!
Hey Verizon, roll it out everywhere and take my money!
I promise to switch from my current cable provider immediately!
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No it has not. FIOS deployment was halted back in ancient times. 2009 iirc.
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Well I am not going to complain about 'only' 940 Mbps with no caps for $70.
I do wonder how is this rollout will be. I also wonder if this would ever have happened had Google not lit a fire under the ISPs.
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Well, no. No individual server will. But when I have a handful of Nest cameras at home, my wife is watching YouTube or whatever, my MIL is watching Netflix, I'm watching Netflix/downloading some large games/whatever, gigabit is nice. For a single user, I don't see a difference over ~100mbit usually. Sometimes I'm downloading large files and my gbit to the desktop at work REALLY shines. (Yes, I speedtest at 900+mbps on any of my workstations at work.)
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I really have to revisit VZ now. I recently was given the honor of having my bill bumped up to $75/month while still getting 25Mbps by Comcast in January.
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I live in one of the regions mentioned, and I could probably get this, as I've had FIOS before... but I just have no need for the extra speed. (crazy, right?)
When my $40/month deal with Cox runs out I will check my options though.
When my $40/month deal with Cox runs out I will check my options though.
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I live in Boston, and I emailed this info to Ars earlier this morning. I am not sure how far along in the write up this they were when I sent it. Another data point not touched is that In Boston I can put in my address for new service and I will get offered 1gig internet. If I log into my existing service 300Mbps is the fastest tier. Hopefully current users will be bumped up to the faster speeds.
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I think 940Mbps is close enough with the overhead. Plus that's about the limit of even my own gigabit LAN with my current set of hardware and I'm sure it's similar with most other people's LAN.
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Oh wait.. There's the confusion enhancement!
From Article:
"The $70 price for gigabit service is the actual base price, not a promotional offering that will be automatically raised after a set period of time, a Verizon spokesperson told Ars. "It’s not promotional. No plans to raise price at this time," Verizon said."
From Availability Checker:
"Fios Internet - No annual contract
Availability varies. Gigabit network connection to your home. Actual speeds vary due to device limits, network and other factors. Avg. speeds betw. 750-940 Mbps download / 750-880 upload.
Limited-time online offer for new Fios TV residential customers subscribing to a Fios Gigabit Connection (Up to 940/880 Mbps) plan. Promo rates provided via monthly bill credits. Rate increases after promo period. $10/mo. router charge. Other fees, taxes, equip. charges & terms may apply. $70 set-up charge may apply."
Unless I am reading it wrong, can someone ring back that spokesperson can get verification?
This does explain the pile of Summer job posting on indeed.com for temporary FiOS/Cable technicians I saw recently.
From Article:
"The $70 price for gigabit service is the actual base price, not a promotional offering that will be automatically raised after a set period of time, a Verizon spokesperson told Ars. "It’s not promotional. No plans to raise price at this time," Verizon said."
From Availability Checker:
"Fios Internet - No annual contract
Availability varies. Gigabit network connection to your home. Actual speeds vary due to device limits, network and other factors. Avg. speeds betw. 750-940 Mbps download / 750-880 upload.
Limited-time online offer for new Fios TV residential customers subscribing to a Fios Gigabit Connection (Up to 940/880 Mbps) plan. Promo rates provided via monthly bill credits. Rate increases after promo period. $10/mo. router charge. Other fees, taxes, equip. charges & terms may apply. $70 set-up charge may apply."
Unless I am reading it wrong, can someone ring back that spokesperson can get verification?
This does explain the pile of Summer job posting on indeed.com for temporary FiOS/Cable technicians I saw recently.
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What, you're expecting to get what you were promised? From an ISP?
Learn their language. "10 Mbps down / 1 Mbps up" doesn't mean you'll actually get 10 Mbps down and 1 Mbps up. It means the provider guarantees that your connection will be no faster than 10 Mbps down and 1 Mbps up.
It could be a lot less and they won't do a damn thing about it. For example, if the time is between 5 and 10 PM, or if it's raining, or if the squirrels are nesting. And you can bet your bottom dollar that it'll be the fault of your quad-GbE-port, 802.11ac router when the 900 Mbps you pull between things on your LAN suddenly drops to 900 Kbps when anything crosses the gateway.
Things like "truth" and "honesty" are foreign concepts to these companies.
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I currently work in telecommunications, and verizons quantum gateway g1100 is standard, and combines router/modem functions.
It has SIP ALG baked in, and true bridge mode was not available from the customers side, we had to call verizon to get them to enable it.
If you use voip know this means you WILL get issues with that service on that device unless you get a new router, and get verizon to enable true bridge mode.
It has SIP ALG baked in, and true bridge mode was not available from the customers side, we had to call verizon to get them to enable it.
If you use voip know this means you WILL get issues with that service on that device unless you get a new router, and get verizon to enable true bridge mode.
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Well, if you assume that when they advertise Gigabit, they actually mean gibibit (230), then you are technically getting 1 Gbps down (0.931 Gibps ~ 1 Gbps).
It's like hard drive manufacturing all over again!
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I recently cut my Comcast bill to $75 when I cancelled TV... the sad part is, there's a VZ fiber in the basement of my building, but no VZ to connect it to any more. Meanwhile Fairpoint is sending me flyers begging me to sign up for DSL.
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Hmm, my plan is up soon.
Holy Smokin Toledos! (see YouTube reference on boat)
Fios has the most sadistic site to "just want to figure out plan options"!
No, I will not give you my address, and other info.
No, I don't give a f-ck about Rewards/Connections/Points.
I just want an "affordable" and "reasonable" communications plan, with options for TV, etc.
Holy Smokin Toledos! (see YouTube reference on boat)
Fios has the most sadistic site to "just want to figure out plan options"!
No, I will not give you my address, and other info.
No, I don't give a f-ck about Rewards/Connections/Points.
I just want an "affordable" and "reasonable" communications plan, with options for TV, etc.
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Moving soon and cant wait to dump Comcast for Fios (most likely).
I've been paying $135 for a few years now (TV +75Mbps?) and changing any plan is anything but impossible. I stopped renting their modem and tried to get rid of the excess channels on TV but their bundles make NO SENSE!!!
I'd switch to any other provider even if they are equally as bad. I'm just done with Comcast.
I've been paying $135 for a few years now (TV +75Mbps?) and changing any plan is anything but impossible. I stopped renting their modem and tried to get rid of the excess channels on TV but their bundles make NO SENSE!!!
I'd switch to any other provider even if they are equally as bad. I'm just done with Comcast.
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If the real speeds were 940/940 I'd be fine with it. But when the upload is 850 that's significantly under gigabit.
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Also, I've never had a gigabit connection, but I've seen Steam max out downstream connections in the 100s of Mbps. So there ARE services that will saturate whatever you throw at them, even if they're rare.
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Update 2: It is April 30th and it is NOT available in Prince William County, part of the Washington DC area.
Update 1: I will update this post on April 30th when the new tier will be available for online ordering. The information below was based on a conversation with a customer service representative.
It is not completely available in the Washington, DC area. For instance, gigabit internet service is not available in Prince William County, VA which is considered part of the Washington, DC area.
Update 1: I will update this post on April 30th when the new tier will be available for online ordering. The information below was based on a conversation with a customer service representative.
It is not completely available in the Washington, DC area. For instance, gigabit internet service is not available in Prince William County, VA which is considered part of the Washington, DC area.
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"Others will pay more for slower speeds"
No joke. Our current FiOS service is 150Mbps for $95/month and after hearing about this I went to check and they offered me the generous alternate deal of 300Mbps for $190/month. :-(
No joke. Our current FiOS service is 150Mbps for $95/month and after hearing about this I went to check and they offered me the generous alternate deal of 300Mbps for $190/month. :-(
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The article doesn't mention if there's a data cap or not. I'm skeptical that Verizon is offering such a good price for something close to gigabit without there being a data cap that you'd exceed after six hours of maxing out your connection.
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Blizzard's app launcher will do a similar thing where it can use all of the bandwidth, but I believe that's because it's using a version of bittorrent between Blizzard clients.
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Steam. While not gigabit it certainly is faster than 25 Mbps. I have downloaded at 150 Mbps and I am sure that isn't maxing it out. Also the main advantage of gigabit isn't a single full throughput stream but multiple streams. I can be downloading a game on Steam while my wife is watching House of Cards in 4K without hearing "Statistical, Netflix isn't working".
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FIOS has no data cap for any existing plans (even 750 Mbps) so I really doubt this is any different. FIOS honestly is very different than the rest of Verizon but God help you if you have a billing error.
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Ok that still makes it better than 99% of ISPs in the US. I mean they don't advertise gigabit symmetrical and hell Comcast gigabit over cable is 35 Mbps upload.
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And know ahead of time what the price will be after promo period, if there is one. I never did get an answer from the VZ chat I had back when the pay as you go FiOS was announced for whether or not ONT setup was part of the free installation offer. All the guy kept doing was asking my browsing habits, number of devices, blah blah.
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