Verizon’s $70 gigabit Internet is half the price of older 750Mbps tier

FiOS customers on 750Mbps plan will get speed boost and automatic price cut.

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[Eurynom0s]

Oh Verizon. Unlimited != unlimited. Gigabit != gigabit. Never change.

 

[Eurynom0s]

Oh Verizon. Unlimited != unlimited. Gigabit != gigabit. Never change.

I am am sort of ok with this one. If you include the overhead then it is a gbps link. The advertising is wrong but the fact is not. Probably just needs another competitor to do better and get the FCC? FTC? or whoever polices ads to make them fix it.

If the real speeds were 940/940 I'd be fine with it. But when the upload is 850 that's significantly under gigabit.

 

[Eurynom0s]

I have had broadband at: 3Mbps, 6Mbps, 15Mbps, 25Mbps, 50Mbps and now I have 100Mbps+. I stopped noticing any connectivity improvement at 25Mbps. No commercial server anywhere, owned by anyone is going to let you suck data at a Gbps.
It is no wonder Giga-plans are not all that pricey, they don't really cost anything in actual bandwidth due to server side controls.

Multi user homes.

Also, I've never had a gigabit connection, but I've seen Steam max out downstream connections in the 100s of Mbps. So there ARE services that will saturate whatever you throw at them, even if they're rare.

 

[Eurynom0s]

Oh Verizon. Unlimited != unlimited. Gigabit != gigabit. Never change.

I am am sort of ok with this one. If you include the overhead then it is a gbps link. The advertising is wrong but the fact is not. Probably just needs another competitor to do better and get the FCC? FTC? or whoever polices ads to make them fix it.

If the real speeds were 940/940 I'd be fine with it. But when the upload is 850 that's significantly under gigabit.

Ok that still makes it better than 99% of ISPs in the US. I mean they don't advertise gigabit symmetrical and hell Comcast gigabit over cable is 35 Mbps upload.

Being better than the majority of other ISPs doesn't make it okay. However, I missed that they're not advertising it as symmetrical. That's my mistake then, I thought Verizon was now only doing symmetrical FiOS plans so I assumed this one was being advertised as such as well.

 

[Eurynom0s]

Oh Verizon. Unlimited != unlimited. Gigabit != gigabit. Never change.

If one figures that TCP/IP overhead is somewhere in the ballpark of 2-5%, that puts it in the 960-990 mbit/s region. These are bit rates that are difficult to achieve even on a LAN. It really does, however, make one wonder what the catch is.

My objection was on the upload being 850 Mbps since I thought Verizon had moved to only offering symmetrical FiOS connections. Someone else pointed out that this ISN'T, in fact, being marketed as symmetrical though, so knowing that it's being called gigabit based only on the downstream being 940 Mbps, I'm fine with calling it gigabit.

 

[Eurynom0s]

I have had broadband at: 3Mbps, 6Mbps, 15Mbps, 25Mbps, 50Mbps and now I have 100Mbps+. I stopped noticing any connectivity improvement at 25Mbps. No commercial server anywhere, owned by anyone is going to let you suck data at a Gbps.
It is no wonder Giga-plans are not all that pricey, they don't really cost anything in actual bandwidth due to server side controls.

When downloading patches for Blizzard games, I regularly hit 3 Gbps.

What company/where did you get a 3 Gbps connection from?

 

[Eurynom0s]

Existing customers who bought that 750Mbps plan "will automatically receive FiOS Gigabit Connection and will see their bills lowered," Verizon said. It's not clear whether they will get their price lowered all the way to $70.

I'd like to emphasize how very misleading that part of the press release is. I signed up for that 750Mbps plan 3 months ago, and it turns out that my bill will automatically be lowered from $165 to $155. Through multiple Verizon support channels, I've been told my only other option is to cancel service; there is no way for me to get anything lower than $155. And, to be clear, I am on a no-contract plan, so it's not like a contract is locking me into that price.

That's right, I'll be paying 2.25 times as much as new customers, every month, indefinitely, as punishment for being an early adopter. Thanks, Verizon!

I just signed up for the new "Fios Gigabit" offering today -- I'm currently getting 100/10 TWC service for about the same price once the promotional rate expires in a few months, so it's too good to pass up. But I must say that even as a "new customer," reports like yours of how existing customers are being treated do give me pause.

On the plus side, there's no contract, and since I'm in a new building that is wired for both ISPs, I could always switch back if necessary (though I'm usually loathe to do so).

I'm considering switching back to Spectrum, but I can't find any internet speeds advertised on their site higher than 30mbps. When I switched from Spectrum to FiOS earlier this year, I was getting 500mbps with Spectrum. What gives?

If your experience was from before the TWC sale to charter went through, or at least before Charter started moving on fully integrating TWC and Brighthouse into the Spectrum umbrella, that could be it. I live in LA and the last couple of months I've suddenly felt like I'm frequently connecting through an over-saturated node...which is really bizarre considering it's the same fucking hardware as was there a few months ago.

 

[Eurynom0s]

Existing customers who bought that 750Mbps plan "will automatically receive FiOS Gigabit Connection and will see their bills lowered," Verizon said. It's not clear whether they will get their price lowered all the way to $70.

I'd like to emphasize how very misleading that part of the press release is. I signed up for that 750Mbps plan 3 months ago, and it turns out that my bill will automatically be lowered from $165 to $155. Through multiple Verizon support channels, I've been told my only other option is to cancel service; there is no way for me to get anything lower than $155. And, to be clear, I am on a no-contract plan, so it's not like a contract is locking me into that price.

That's right, I'll be paying 2.25 times as much as new customers, every month, indefinitely, as punishment for being an early adopter. Thanks, Verizon!

I just signed up for the new "Fios Gigabit" offering today -- I'm currently getting 100/10 TWC service for about the same price once the promotional rate expires in a few months, so it's too good to pass up. But I must say that even as a "new customer," reports like yours of how existing customers are being treated do give me pause.

On the plus side, there's no contract, and since I'm in a new building that is wired for both ISPs, I could always switch back if necessary (though I'm usually loathe to do so).

I'm considering switching back to Spectrum, but I can't find any internet speeds advertised on their site higher than 30mbps. When I switched from Spectrum to FiOS earlier this year, I was getting 500mbps with Spectrum. What gives?

If your experience was from before the TWC sale to charter went through, or at least before Charter started moving on fully integrating TWC and Brighthouse into the Spectrum umbrella, that could be it. I live in LA and the last couple of months I've suddenly felt like I'm frequently connecting through an over-saturated node...which is really bizarre considering it's the same fucking hardware as was there a few months ago.

I signed up with TWC and then it changed to Spectrum before I cancelled. It's just odd that their fastest offering after the merger is now less than 6% the speed of their fastest offering before the merger.

30 Mbps sounds low, I thought Charter's standard was 60/5, but ultimately the point is that Charter's highest speed before the merger was 60/5 and that's what they're standardizing TWC and Brighthouse to. People still have higher than that but AFAIK only if you had it at the time Charter started the process of rolling everything into Spectrum.

Also...where are you that you had 500 Mbps from TWC? I thought they topped out at 300/20 right before the merger.