'Suspiciously redacted' for the Trump base just means that there aren't enough Democrats, liberal celebrities, and Jewish financiers listed. Heck if Soros, Bill and Hillary are only listed once each, that would be get Trump's base to start yelling "Fraud!"
Epstein client list, does it exist or not?
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Or if the list comes out and only democrats are listed, Its a fine line they have used to put themselves in a corner.
Already know the Black book, already know Trumps name is in them.
If it comes out that only Soros, Clinton, (hell why not) Obama are the only real names listed, would call into question the entire release.
Already know the Black book, already know Trumps name is in them.
If it comes out that only Soros, Clinton, (hell why not) Obama are the only real names listed, would call into question the entire release.
Pam Bondi is involved so yes, of course there is a way for it to go wrong. You trust her, right? /s
The full decision for the denial of the request to release the grand jury records has dropped
Judge declines to unseal grand jury material in Jeffrey Epstein case (CBS News)
That's a remarkably
call out of the administration's stall tactics.
Judge declines to unseal grand jury material in Jeffrey Epstein case (CBS News)
That's a remarkably
call out of the administration's stall tactics.
If there were any prominent Dems listed in the Trumpstein files surely we'd have heard about it by now.
Just like how the Russians hacked the DNC at the same time they hacked the RNC and all they found was Weiner's dick pics, while the GOP mysteriously and abruptly went hardcore pro-Russia.
Looking into this a little bit more, it's interesting that trump admin would have even bothered moving Maxwell to minimum security, but maybe it's another way to own the libs? She was already in a low security prison which seems kinda amazing to begin with, but my head is starting to hurt trying to go down the rabbit hole of why she/Epstein got lenient treatment to begin with, and I'm sure it'll be the usual answer of someone owed someone a favor or something.
This website talks a little about the difference in prison categories, seems like difference is really just different staff to inmate ratio and fencing.
https://www.bop.gov/about/facilities/federal_prisons.jsp
This website talks a little about the difference in prison categories, seems like difference is really just different staff to inmate ratio and fencing.
https://www.bop.gov/about/facilities/federal_prisons.jsp
They are or were very rich and exceptionally well connected. The US justice system doesn’t touch people like that except in the lightest manner.
Trump is a similar example. There’s a long history of fraud through his personal valuation of his properties, and good evidence of Russian money laundering but no case was ever brought forward. He’s rich, so hands off. And look where the selective application of justice and law enforcement gets the US. A failing economy run by a gangster wannabe that actively protects paedophiles.
I think it's not really that. They weren't violent considered violent offenders, thus not a risk to other inmates, so they went in lower-security facilities.
Whole different issue. Trump wasn't punished at all, because (waves hands at nonexistent portions of the Constitution).
White collar crime is never punished enough.
I dunno, aren't sex trafficking and/or rape considered violent crimes?
I don't disagree with you, but I don't think this falls under white collar crime. Unless you mean it's crime committed by people who work in white collar jobs.
So Ms Maxwell didn't see anything untoward, and there isn't a list ....
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/08/22/politics/takeaways-ghislaine-maxwell-justice-department-interview
also she doesn't believe that Epstein committed suicide.
Of course, considering she still appealing her conviction as a sex offender, it's hard for me to believe what she says, it seems to be a bit "I'll say nothing bad, and at the least, you transfer me to a much nicer prison".
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/08/22/politics/takeaways-ghislaine-maxwell-justice-department-interview
also she doesn't believe that Epstein committed suicide.
Of course, considering she still appealing her conviction as a sex offender, it's hard for me to believe what she says, it seems to be a bit "I'll say nothing bad, and at the least, you transfer me to a much nicer prison".
It's almost exactly what we all suspected. The only surprise, and it's a mild one for me, is that she didn't start singing the names of prominent Democrats and Democrat-supporting celebrities like a canary. (The cynic in me thinks she's holding that one back to dangle in exchange for a pardon. We all know how much Trump loves his enemies lists.)
I do love the media sanewashing of articles I've seen like "Epstein's former girlfriend didn't see Trump do anything inappropriate". Like this is some credible witness, uninvolved with the crimes, just coming forward to defend the wrongfully accused. As opposed to something more accurate like "Convicted pedophile defends Trump". And I'm glad we all just accept a pedophile's definition of what constitutes inappropriate behavior around children.
Or, for that matter, that she wouldn't lie if she could get something out of it, something she has done before.
I am loving how she is able to clear Trump and Clinton. She might be a master at the center line. I know going for a pardon and such, but it is amusing to watch supporters want to say she was telling 100% the truth (Trump), but also 100% lying.(Clinton)
I wish she would not want to look like going for the pardon. This is exactly what happens when the 1% are caught doing all the stuff that crosses the lines.
I wish she would not want to look like going for the pardon. This is exactly what happens when the 1% are caught doing all the stuff that crosses the lines.
Maxwell has no masters. She's clearing Clinton because she knows it will get a whole bunch of Third Way morons barking for her pardon and release, too.
Sociopaths are very adept at manipulating situations to get precisely what they need and want.
Yeah, that was definitely my gut response too. If she wants to at least seem somewhat credible she needs to at least throw some people under the bus considering what she theoretically knows. To come out and say 'nope, never seen anything ever' and 'everything was always on the up and up' just isn't even remotely believable. Actually, it's not clear to me if she's ever admitted wrongdoing, or shown any kind of contrition for her crimes? Doesn't feel like I've seen anything about it, and can't be bothered to look into it deeply.
I love how in the current climate any time anyone does anything heinous the first response is 'hmm, how can i get a presidential pardon?'.
Well, Trump has made it plainly clear that not only is every interaction with him transactional but also anything can be had for the right price, so it's not exactly shocking to see the scum of the earth trying to buy their way to freedom.
If only every interaction with him were transactional. That would be an improvement. The reality is that every transaction with him is ephemeral, and so your deal can and will be unilaterally re-traded on post facto according to his whimsical preferences.
This is why I continue to think it's mind-numbingly stupid that anyone or any institution attempts to appease rather than oppose him.
She's also trying to argue that she is innocent, so obviously she couldn't have seen or been involved with anything illegal.
Trump seems to not only have object impermanence but also policy, plan and thought impermanence.
Hey now, he is pretty good at remembering grudges. Probably has to forget everything else to keep the memory space for all of those he has, though...
The man is so transactional, thoughts and events that didn't do anything for him don't matter.
Isn’t that generally true of older people and people in general?
Heard the other day that people remember insults for a long time while they forget compliments fairly quickly. This negativity bias may have had to do with survival as insults could be threats which people had to retain for a long time.
He's still around? I thought he slunk away after getting booted from Veritas for misappropriating all of their funds.
Scumbags gonna scumbag. It's not like the guy has a skill set outside of being one of the world's largest asswipes.
In Trumpworld, that's a valuable skill in itself.
Except that he was such a colossal scumbag he got kicked out of Trumpworld and is now using his bag of scumbag tricks against them.
So now they released one big name, a major financer, and caught DOJ saying they will remove/redact any republican name, assuming the video is not fake.
How is this vote going to go? Do the victims get satisfaction or do they release one name a day?
Not to mention I am completely confused as to why MTG seems on board with this. And immigration raids, and such are hitting Georgia, could that be a coincidence?
How is this vote going to go? Do the victims get satisfaction or do they release one name a day?
Not to mention I am completely confused as to why MTG seems on board with this. And immigration raids, and such are hitting Georgia, could that be a coincidence?
My assumption has been that the WSJ has most if not all of the files and is slowly releasing them. They're pretty tight with the NYC FBI.
Trump's birthday note to Epstein has been released, although a White House deputy chief of staff says "it's not his signature."
House Democrats release lewd birthday message Trump allegedly sent to Jeffrey Epstein [nbcnews.com]
I definitely get the "ick" even more from seeing it after previously only reading about it. I expect Trump to claim it's AI any moment now...
House Democrats release lewd birthday message Trump allegedly sent to Jeffrey Epstein [nbcnews.com]
I definitely get the "ick" even more from seeing it after previously only reading about it. I expect Trump to claim it's AI any moment now...
The first few hours after a bad news cycle starts is always very entertaining because ytou can see how the right wing disinformation system works.
They throw everything at the wall and see what sticks. The A listers wait and see what is working for the B and C tier "commentators" and then by the next morning they will have settled on the whatever bullshit excuse worked best.
For someone everyone knew was a serial predator, the fact Trump is a serial predator seems to be catching a lot of people flat-footed.
It’s bad for the uneven treatment, but anyone on that list is a stinging indictment of their behavior—regardless of political affiliation.
It may be more that people are being caught surprised that Trump’s layer of invincibility appears to be malfunctioning.