X apparently added 5-second delay for links to sites Musk doesn’t like

Celery Man

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Disliked the guy after it broke that he was pushing the founder title for Tesla, but I did feel genuinely bad for him when Neil Armstrong shit on SpaceX and he cried.



Then the lies compounded and he became megadouche, so hating him is easy. It's just not worth the energy.

He’s not just a megadouche, he’s doing things like personally reinstating the account of someone who posted a CSAM video involving babies. That’s evil, pure and simple, and ignoring evil never goes well.
 
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And next, on This Week In The Xitter:

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Has anybody considered (or try to prove or disprove) that large news websites may have thousands of URLs stored in the t.co database and therefore due to database glitches (or design, or bad maintenance) may lead to delayed clicks?
That thought was dismissed outright because it's dumb and does not fit what's happening.

The databases may have technical issues
Every single one on certain sites?


My comment wil probably be downvoted like anything that isn't Elon bashing, but please can someone clarify?
Your comment is downvoted because it's a super handwavy explanation which tries to excuse what Musk is doing, when the simplest answer is that Musk put the delay in.
 
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That thought was dismissed outright because it's dumb and does not fit what's happening.

just saying something is “dumb” does not make you right.

Every single one on certain sites?

that‘s not the case. read the full hacker news item and you will find many different results.

Your comment is downvoted because it's a super handwavy explanation which tries to excuse what Musk is doing, when the simplest answer is that Musk put the delay in.

prove it. The simplest answer seems to be tech issues rather than making up a conspiracy of sorts because Musk is a sociopath.

reading the original hacker news thread there are many discussions about it being caused by database issues, DNS issues, cookie issues, browser issues, caching issues, networking or carrier issues.

to me it defies comprehension that everybody in the media immediately blames musk even when there is no proof of that and there are many other plausible reasons.

people simply leave out facts or simplify them just te get the result they like the best. Like saying ”of course its musk” or ”it’s exactly the sites he does not like”. Confirmation bias, we call that in science.

this is exactly what right wing, science denying folk would do, (aka Musk people) and it’s a sad thing I get downvoted for trying to be nuanced and doing critical thinking.
 
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this is exactly what right wing, science denying folk would do, (aka Musk people) and it’s a sad thing I get downvoted for trying to be nuanced and doing critical thinking.
Literally nothing in your post was critical thinking. It was idiotic excuses that relied on the most amazing of coincidences. Quite frankly, that is the kind of bullshit that right wingers engage in
 
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"Kill the Boer" doesn't sound like genocide to you?
For the sake of argument, sure, why not. I missed the part where the NYT supported or even excused that statement, however. Where did that happen?

Note, reporting that this was said is not supporting what was said. If some world leader is supporting genocide, shouldn't "the paper of record" make people aware of that?
 
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If you honestly think that the NYT was promoting "white genocide", you're a complete fucking idiot. I guess that would explain thinking that Musk has a point on anything.
He called them an apologist, not that they were “promoting” genocide.

And that rings true.. the gist of the NYT article is people argue the phrase is not meant to be taken literally. Despite the fact that there have been racially motivated murders of White farmers in SA (Whites are a minority group, BTW).

Can you imagine that phrase being used against any minority group here? I’m sure die Juden sind unser unglück was just a slogan, and nothing bad will ever come of it, right?!
 
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For the sake of argument, sure, why not. I missed the part where the NYT supported or even excused that statement, however. Where did that happen?

Note, reporting that this was said is not supporting what was said. If some world leader is supporting genocide, shouldn't "the paper of record" make people aware of that?
They excused the statement by making the claim it was not intended to be taken literally.. despite the fact that there have been racially motivated murders of (minority) White farmers.
 
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It has an actual effect. A lot of people expect a near-instant response to clicking on a link, and if nothing happens for a couple of seconds they abandon it.
Yeah. Five seconds is a looooong time to wait for a link to load.

To anyone who might think it doesn’t sound like that long, imagine clicking on a link and then count to five-Mississippi. To me, it feels like forever. (I’m obviously being hyperbolic, but it seems like way longer than a link should take to load.)

I’ll bet I essentially never wait five seconds without trying something — click reload, go back and try the link again, or whatever. And for a link I might have only been mildly curious about, I’m sure I’ve just abandoned such links if taking more than a second or two to load.
 
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VividVerism

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He called them an apologist, not that they were “promoting” genocide.

And that rings true.. the gist of the NYT article is people argue the phrase is not meant to be taken literally. Despite the fact that there have been racially motivated murders of White farmers in SA (Whites are a minority group, BTW).

Can you imagine that phrase being used against any minority group here? I’m sure die Juden sind unser unglück was just a slogan, and nothing bad will ever come of it, right?!
After reading the article...I don't particularly care for the slogan, but I'm getting a definite "eat the rich" vibe about it, from the discussion of the phrase's history and context.

It also seemed like the NYT was being careful to describe both sides of the argument without taking a strong stance on it.
 
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They excused the statement by making the claim it was not intended to be taken literally.. despite the fact that there have been racially motivated murders of (minority) White farmers.
If Elon were still in South Africa I might have more sympathy, but he's in the US, where "white genocide" is widely understood to be code for "we're letting brown people have rights that used to be reserved only for whites."
 
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If Elon were still in South Africa I might have more sympathy, but he's in the US, where "white genocide" is widely understood to be code for "we're letting brown people have rights that used to be reserved only for whites."
"White people in America can't talk about white people oppressed elsewhere because racists stole the concept" probably isn't how we should police discourse imo
 
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Are white people really oppressed in South Africa? 🤔
I have no idea what the current state of things is there, but I think think the group Musk has an issue with has a bunch of rhetoric about killing them, right? Going through with that would certainly be oppression... sorry about maybe not quite phrasing my OP correctly to avoid a "gotcha" tho
 
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I have no idea what the current state of things is there, but I think think the group Musk has an issue with has a bunch of rhetoric about killing them, right? Going through with that would certainly be oppression... sorry about maybe not quite phrasing my OP correctly to avoid a "gotcha" tho
If you don't know what the current state of things are in South Africa, why are you making the statement about "white people oppressed elsewhere", with "elsewhere" being South Africa in this case, then?

Considering the rhetoric is explicitly stated to be not taken literally, you're taking it out of context just as poorly as Musk is.
 
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If you don't know what the current state of things are in South Africa, why are you making the statement about "white people oppressed elsewhere", with "elsewhere" being South Africa in this case, then?

Considering the rhetoric is explicitly stated to be not taken literally, you're taking it out of context just as poorly as Musk is.
The alt-right says "we're just trolling bro" all the time... should we believe them?

Why are you so willing to defend violent rhetoric as being "not literal" but to tone police someone who has a problem with it?
 
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The alt-right says "we're just trolling bro" all the time... should we believe them?

Why are you so willing to defend violent rhetoric as being "not literal" but to tone police someone who has a problem with it?
Because Elon is only talking about it in order to score points with alt-right white supremicists. Have you paid any attention to his behavior since taking over Twitter? He's desperate for the approval of those people.
 
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Because Elon is only talking about it in order to score points with alt-right white supremicists. Have you paid any attention to his behavior since taking over Twitter? He's desperate for the approval of those people.
Don't you think he's talking about it because it's his demographic in his home country?
 
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Don't you think he's talking about it because it's his demographic in his home country?
No. When else does he talk about South Africa? You don't think it's suspicious that it literally only comes up when he can make a point about racial replacement theory in order to impress catturd2 and friends?
 
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The alt-right says "we're just trolling bro" all the time... should we believe them?

Why are you so willing to defend violent rhetoric as being "not literal" but to tone police someone who has a problem with it?
Because the leader of the South African Economic Freedom Fighters isn't saying "we're just trolling bro". Have there been white/Boer deaths that can be clearly attributed to the South African Economic Freedom Fighters and linked to their rhetoric?

While apartheid de jure is dead, white Boers still have an incredible amount of economic power compared to the Black population and apartheid is in "limited" de facto practice still. Wanting to kill that imbalance of power makes a lot of sense in that light.
 
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