Disliked the guy after it broke that he was pushing the founder title for Tesla, but I did feel genuinely bad for him when Neil Armstrong shit on SpaceX and he cried.
Then the lies compounded and he became megadouche, so hating him is easy. It's just not worth the energy.
Imagine you're one of the people in the EU planning to start enforcing the DSA when it goes live on the 25th. Then Musk surprises you with this to make your job easier.
It isn't like your comment forwards the discussion either. Musk is a pathetic piece of shit, though.Generally I downvote ad hominem attacks on Mr. Musk on the principle that name calling doesn’t forward the discussion.
But shit. This is really fucking puerile.
If you honestly think that the NYT was promoting "white genocide", you're a complete fucking idiot. I guess that would explain thinking that Musk has a point on anything."Kill the Boer" doesn't sound like genocide to you?
That thought was dismissed outright because it's dumb and does not fit what's happening.Has anybody considered (or try to prove or disprove) that large news websites may have thousands of URLs stored in the t.co database and therefore due to database glitches (or design, or bad maintenance) may lead to delayed clicks?
Every single one on certain sites?The databases may have technical issues
Your comment is downvoted because it's a super handwavy explanation which tries to excuse what Musk is doing, when the simplest answer is that Musk put the delay in.My comment wil probably be downvoted like anything that isn't Elon bashing, but please can someone clarify?
That thought was dismissed outright because it's dumb and does not fit what's happening.
Every single one on certain sites?
Your comment is downvoted because it's a super handwavy explanation which tries to excuse what Musk is doing, when the simplest answer is that Musk put the delay in.
Literally nothing in your post was critical thinking. It was idiotic excuses that relied on the most amazing of coincidences. Quite frankly, that is the kind of bullshit that right wingers engage inthis is exactly what right wing, science denying folk would do, (aka Musk people) and it’s a sad thing I get downvoted for trying to be nuanced and doing critical thinking.
For the sake of argument, sure, why not. I missed the part where the NYT supported or even excused that statement, however. Where did that happen?"Kill the Boer" doesn't sound like genocide to you?
I take your point because you’re correct on both counts.It isn't like your comment forwards the discussion either. Musk is a pathetic piece of shit, though.
He called them an apologist, not that they were “promoting” genocide.If you honestly think that the NYT was promoting "white genocide", you're a complete fucking idiot. I guess that would explain thinking that Musk has a point on anything.
They excused the statement by making the claim it was not intended to be taken literally.. despite the fact that there have been racially motivated murders of (minority) White farmers.For the sake of argument, sure, why not. I missed the part where the NYT supported or even excused that statement, however. Where did that happen?
Note, reporting that this was said is not supporting what was said. If some world leader is supporting genocide, shouldn't "the paper of record" make people aware of that?
Yeah. Five seconds is a looooong time to wait for a link to load.It has an actual effect. A lot of people expect a near-instant response to clicking on a link, and if nothing happens for a couple of seconds they abandon it.
After reading the article...I don't particularly care for the slogan, but I'm getting a definite "eat the rich" vibe about it, from the discussion of the phrase's history and context.He called them an apologist, not that they were “promoting” genocide.
And that rings true.. the gist of the NYT article is people argue the phrase is not meant to be taken literally. Despite the fact that there have been racially motivated murders of White farmers in SA (Whites are a minority group, BTW).
Can you imagine that phrase being used against any minority group here? I’m sure die Juden sind unser unglück was just a slogan, and nothing bad will ever come of it, right?!
That doesn't mean there's a corollation between the two.They excused the statement by making the claim it was not intended to be taken literally.. despite the fact that there have been racially motivated murders of (minority) White farmers.
Sorry, but it's correlation.That doesn't mean there's a corollation between the two.
If Elon were still in South Africa I might have more sympathy, but he's in the US, where "white genocide" is widely understood to be code for "we're letting brown people have rights that used to be reserved only for whites."They excused the statement by making the claim it was not intended to be taken literally.. despite the fact that there have been racially motivated murders of (minority) White farmers.
Knock it off. Toyotathon doesn't start until mid-November.Sorry, but it's correlation.
I got flashes of Toyota cars there.
"White people in America can't talk about white people oppressed elsewhere because racists stole the concept" probably isn't how we should police discourse imoIf Elon were still in South Africa I might have more sympathy, but he's in the US, where "white genocide" is widely understood to be code for "we're letting brown people have rights that used to be reserved only for whites."
He knows exactly what crowd he's sending dog whistles to."White people in America can't talk about white people oppressed elsewhere because racists stole the concept" probably isn't how we should police discourse imo
Are white people really oppressed in South Africa?"White people in America can't talk about white people oppressed elsewhere because racists stole the concept" probably isn't how we should police discourse imo
I have no idea what the current state of things is there, but I think think the group Musk has an issue with has a bunch of rhetoric about killing them, right? Going through with that would certainly be oppression... sorry about maybe not quite phrasing my OP correctly to avoid a "gotcha" thoAre white people really oppressed in South Africa?![]()
If you don't know what the current state of things are in South Africa, why are you making the statement about "white people oppressed elsewhere", with "elsewhere" being South Africa in this case, then?I have no idea what the current state of things is there, but I think think the group Musk has an issue with has a bunch of rhetoric about killing them, right? Going through with that would certainly be oppression... sorry about maybe not quite phrasing my OP correctly to avoid a "gotcha" tho
The alt-right says "we're just trolling bro" all the time... should we believe them?If you don't know what the current state of things are in South Africa, why are you making the statement about "white people oppressed elsewhere", with "elsewhere" being South Africa in this case, then?
Considering the rhetoric is explicitly stated to be not taken literally, you're taking it out of context just as poorly as Musk is.
Because Elon is only talking about it in order to score points with alt-right white supremicists. Have you paid any attention to his behavior since taking over Twitter? He's desperate for the approval of those people.The alt-right says "we're just trolling bro" all the time... should we believe them?
Why are you so willing to defend violent rhetoric as being "not literal" but to tone police someone who has a problem with it?
Don't you think he's talking about it because it's his demographic in his home country?Because Elon is only talking about it in order to score points with alt-right white supremicists. Have you paid any attention to his behavior since taking over Twitter? He's desperate for the approval of those people.
No. When else does he talk about South Africa? You don't think it's suspicious that it literally only comes up when he can make a point about racial replacement theory in order to impress catturd2 and friends?Don't you think he's talking about it because it's his demographic in his home country?
People love to conflate being in the minority with oppression. Often when they're whining about the struggle of white.Are white people really oppressed in South Africa?![]()
Because the leader of the South African Economic Freedom Fighters isn't saying "we're just trolling bro". Have there been white/Boer deaths that can be clearly attributed to the South African Economic Freedom Fighters and linked to their rhetoric?The alt-right says "we're just trolling bro" all the time... should we believe them?
Why are you so willing to defend violent rhetoric as being "not literal" but to tone police someone who has a problem with it?