That will take years. I doubt Twitter will survive long enough for that to make its way through the courts.Wouldnt slowing the links to competing news sources run foul of anticompetitive laws? Kind of like MS making sure chrome runs bad in windows.
I wonder if mobile/desktop played a part?I honestly wonder how many websites were actually put into that little “timeout”. We know a lot of the big ones, but there may be more that just weren’t tested. Then again, the thought has crossed my mind that there was some insider info being given out about this. As for the actual impact of this in however many sites were affected, if anyone thinks it’s not a big deal, Google estimates that pages that a website that takes even three seconds to load lose 53% of views. This was 5 seconds before the page even started loading. That’s obviously going to do some harm, and there’s no indication that it isn’t the site causing the problem (which is the point).
There was some more technical discussion in the Lounge thread on this topics, but it revolved around the issue being one with Twitter checking if you have cookies (if you clicked on a link a second time, it loaded immediately). But the delay didn’t hit all sites, and the sites affected were…very specific and VERY different scales (NY Times vs Mastadon).
There’s also this, from the WaPo journalist who broke the story, showing a timeline of the delay (this was shared via Bluesky posts)
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Any generic explanation of this being a normal configuration thing looking for cookies goes out the window for me when I see it be this consistent and then experience a rapid decline when the news breaks. I don’t think there’s much shot of this being an accident.
Ooo. Good catch.Jon, you missed a fun detail: this is the exact same tactic that Putin's telecom agency used to tarpit links to and from Twitter in 2021. https://meincmagazine.com/gadgets/202...firms-roskomnadzors-twitter-blocking-blooper/
The clearest tell for who Musk really is and admires is the people he keeps drawing inspiration from.
You should include "mediocre" (of mind, and more broadly) in there. Otherwise the description leaves too much room for the widespread lie that he's "smart."The eventual autopsy/biography of this debacle should be titled How to abuse your userbase and destroy a platform in 10 easy steps
What a petty small little man Melon Mush is. He's revealed himself to be a cruel, vindictive, selfish, egotistical, manipulative, dishonest charlatan
Did you miss the previous 150 toxic dictator things? You're still doing this Hall Monitor routine even though Elon Musk is clearly so bad that random name-calling in comments stand as informative correct descriptive propositions?Generally I downvote ad hominem attacks on Mr. Musk on the principle that name calling doesn’t forward the discussion.
But shit. This is really fucking puerile.
Except, of course, content that is only posted to Twitter. Of which there is an obnoxious amount.
Part of this is that there simply is no replacement. Bluesky's response to all of this Twitter drama was to drastically reduce the rate at which they gave out invites. Threads is still as useless as it was when it launched. Turns out the "followers only" view - the only change since launch - doesn't show you everything from people you follow, it's still algorithmic in some way and only shows you some of what people you follow post. There's no trending tab, so there's no way to see "social" conversations, so there's no real way to grow your network of people. You're just left with an algorithmic feed of posts from people you don't know. Most people who tried Threads have already given up on it.
Which means that you're left with groups where the only way to know what they're up to is to follow what they post on what used to be called Twitter. There's just nothing out there that replaces it yet.
In the latest controversial change at Elon Musk's social network, the service formerly named Twitter reportedly added a five-second delay when users load links to certain news sites and rival social networks.
Musk actually has a point here.August 4 is the same day that Musk called the NYT a "racial genocide apologist." That was in reply to a video of Julius Malema, leader of the South African Economic Freedom Fighters party, saying, "We've not called for the killing of white people, at least for now. I can't guarantee the future."
That Malema statement was apparently made in an interview in 2018. Two days before Musk's "racial genocide apologist" tweet, the NYT wrote an article describing a new controversy over a rally at which Malema chanted "kill the Boer," in reference to white farmers.
The NYT's August 2 article quoted a Musk tweet that said, "They are openly pushing for genocide of white people in South Africa." The article also quoted people who said the chant "should not be taken as a literal call to violence."
But my whole argument was "Why do you need Twitter in the first place".
I get that Twitter has an incredible algorithm, one that takes long time to mature. My point wasn't "Twitter alternatives" it was "make social media less impactful on your life, to the point of no longer needing it".
While everything you said, I don't disagree with, there isn't anything quite like Twitter, and that's why many haven't left despite it being X now... I'm more saying "Make social media less of an impact on your life, to the point where you can easily leave it go". That's what I did, slowly but surely, I started weaning myself off Twitter, and now had the opportunity to just let it go.
South Africans don't deserve that punishment, just let him go to Mars, alone, no return ticket. It may tank the average IQ on that planet, though."Pedo Guy" Musk is an immature, spoiled, crybaby. We'd all be better off if he went back to South Africa.
I wonder if Jim Jordan or Kevin McCarthy are willing to commit perjury to protect Musk if they get asked about those meetings.
Tanking the IQ on a currently lifeless world would be impressive. Lets see if Musk can pull it off.South Africans don't deserve that punishment, just let him go to Mars, alone, no return ticket. It may tank the average IQ on that planet, though.
People seem to be looking at "using Twitter" from the viewpoint of "posting on Twitter" but the majority of Twitter users rarely if ever post.But my whole argument was "Why do you need Twitter in the first place".
I get that Twitter has an incredible algorithm, one that takes long time to mature. My point wasn't "Twitter alternatives" it was "make social media less impactful on your life, to the point of no longer needing it".
While everything you said, I don't disagree with, there isn't anything quite like Twitter, and that's why many haven't left despite it being X now... I'm more saying "Make social media less of an impact on your life, to the point where you can easily leave it go". That's what I did, slowly but surely, I started weaning myself off Twitter, and now had the opportunity to just let it go.
No, he does not. He called the NYT a "racial genocide apologist." That makes him, once again, full of shit. Only the most racist of assholes would even consider the idea that anyone is pushing for genocide in South Africa, or that anyone is pushing for genocide of white people.Musk actually has a point here.
Probably not. Twitter does not have a monopoly in the social media space, nor is NYT their competitor.Wouldnt slowing the links to competing news sources run foul of anticompetitive laws? Kind of like MS making sure chrome runs bad in windows.
"Kill the Boer" doesn't sound like genocide to you?No, he does not. He called the NYT a "racial genocide apologist." That makes him, once again, full of shit. Only the most racist of assholes would even consider the idea that anyone is pushing for genocide in South Africa, or that anyone is pushing for genocide of white people.
If Musk tweets on Mars and there is no radio to Earth, does he make a sound? Just asking for a Zen priest friend.South Africans don't deserve that punishment, just let him go to Mars, alone, no return ticket. It may tank the average IQ on that planet, though.
August 4 is the same day that Musk called the NYT a "racial genocide apologist." That was in reply to a video of Julius Malema, leader of the South African Economic Freedom Fighters party, saying, "We've not called for the killing of white people, at least for now. I can't guarantee the future."
Nah. It was infantile and puerile back when it was first proposed. At the time it was tolerable because we didn't know that context, but it was infantile and puerile regardless. It just became significantly less tolerable when we found out that context.It was fun and cute, until we found out how Elon views women.
First of all, Twitter made no claims like that. My rule with companies that refuse to explain why they do some dodgy thing is that they don't want to admit to the real reason. Because they are making the choice to stay quiet and I don't like giving them the benefit of the doubt that comes with people assuming an innocent explanation.Has anybody considered (or try to prove or disprove) that large news websites may have thousands of URLs stored in the t.co database and therefore due to database glitches (or design, or bad maintenance) may lead to delayed clicks?
The databases may have technical issues, which could explain why on different days, the delay seems different for each publication.
Is there any proof that this is just Elon being a dick? Is there any proof that this is not a technical issue?
My comment wil probably be downvoted like anything that isn't Elon bashing, but please can someone clarify?
The delays were of a consistent time (5s) and applied to consistent and highly specific targets.Is there any proof that this is just Elon being a dick? Is there any proof that this is not a technical issue?
Plus you'd only ever be querying them by the shortened link, what it is targeting is irrelevant. So if all shortened links were slow to resolve, it looks like a bug, if links to specific sites are slow, it looks targeted.The delays were of a consistent time (5s) and applied to consistent and highly specific targets.
And seriously, this is a simple database table we're talking about here - if it's significantly more complicated than 'Full link', 'Shortened link' and maybe some originator data I'd be surprised - and indexing is not exactly recent tech.
It might have been an innocent glitch, but I highly doubt it.
Musk is a noisy, petty, spiteful brat.Never thought it would be possible that I would despise someone more than I despise Trump.
Musk is a noisy, petty, spiteful brat.
Trump has a far greater capability to bring about an actual fascist dictatorship (in all but name) in America if he gets elected. And if he does get elected, that's it for democracy in America for quite some time, because the current crop of high-rank Republicans are not going to relinquish power if they get hold of it.
I'm not big on the whole 'hate' thing, but I think Trump is a valid person to hate.
[Citation needed]Musk on the other hand has assets, money, power and is not dumb as a rock.
Does he really have power? In certain limited ways, maybe. The most influence he has is Twitter, and while that's not insignificant, it's a dying platform.Musk on the other hand has assets, money, power and is not dumb as a rock.
Amazon have:Does anybody know if any platform which enables "direct" sharing to other platforms has started using the X logo?