War with…Greenland?
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Because it's already green.
You can, but everyone would know you were coming and there will be NATO troops there.
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There is quite a bit of farming in the Mat-Su Valley, northwest of Anchorage. The fertile soil and long summer days allow it to produce some of the largest vegetables in the world, even with the short growing season. There is a little farming elsewhere in the state as well.
I've never been but i don't think bears farm much.
From what I know those Alaskan bush people seem to hunt more than anything.
On GREENland you'll have farming like you've never seen farming before.
That's a very small region compared to, say, the North Slope. But if you want to hasten climate change, feel free to start digging up the tundra up there.
Oh, I don't know we could also all take Minneapolis as the example to emulate and just be unruly to the point of being unrulable. Whenever someone from the administration shows up anyone nearby should tell them very loudly where they can fuck off to. At this point, the complaints from the declaration of Independence are starting to resonate. Add in the kind of tactics* that the north adopted to make slavery untenable and we might get somewhere.
* Seriously, to watch that video. It's about three American history of resistance to the tyranny of the old South. It's good.
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One of the challenges for high latitude farming is that most of the soils are poor and thin. Trying to farm in a couple inches of soil, or soil that has only very recently been exposed (~1000 years) is very difficult. That means high cost due to both materials, equipment, and labor.
Now run those numbers again except pretend that Trump wants to help Russia. Dumb still?
Yes. Russia isnt exactly an economic power, its economy is roughly the size of the Benelux.
by weakening Nato (killing really), the US and international cohesion. Russia does not have to be in the right spot to capitalize on this coup for it not to have been a smart move from his perspective.
Except Russia isnt capable of profiting from that, if NATO is dissolved it will have a successor without the US in a day, Russia isnt the factor some think it is. Its only trump card (hah!) is the fact it has nukes but the US isnt the only NATO member who has those either.
I would also argue that international cohesion hasnt really been a thing for a long time in reality.
Gee, I wonder who dear putin sends those old timey X-Mas, BDay, Sons BDay cards with a slot for cash too????????*
I mean the guy has billions tucked away all over. A couple of rolls for some nice new ballroom gold leaf (nice and thick) trim maybe?
*Hint: he has small hands.
I mean the guy has billions tucked away all over. A couple of rolls for some nice new ballroom gold leaf (nice and thick) trim maybe?
*Hint: he has small hands.
I wonder if things could almost be worse off for Russia without the US in NATO. A lot of the arms supplies have been based on what the US is providing/doing (ie: no long range strikes, then no long range strikes into Russia proper, all the other restrictions Biden slow-walked) that Europe followed. Now, without the US as an ally, the question becomes how much they care about what the US is doing, vs just throwing resources at Ukraine to get Russia out and dealt with.
Ahab did not profit from trying to kill the white whale either, yet try he continued.
In this particular relationship that is an argument I am confident you would lose.
Saying I thought we previously had like 20+ bases but have scaled down. Could reopen if wanted.
What’s this about?
(edit: just to be clear this isn’t a leading question or something, I just missed the story you are referencing and am curious).
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Australia & NZ are currently not feeling safe in regards to the USA - I propose a new alliance called the GAP "Global Asshole Prevention" encompassing all of Europe/Scandinavia, Australia, NZ, Canada & other non-batshit-insane countries.
Like an international “No Homers” club. I reckon diplomats around the globe are already putting something together.
The other problem with that, when you look a little deeper, is that Trump's haphazard method of picking fights has involved two Russian allies.
I'm afraid that the first is a very optimistic scenario based on recent events. They should absolutely have refused the order to kill helpless people clinging to the remnants of a boat they just sank. It was a blatantly, obviously illegal order. They didn't.
And the second is impossible politically. Plus the likelihood is that Trump acts without any notice to Congress. By the time they know, it's already begun, and the Republicans will rally around their leader and invent reasons for it to make sense.
I’m guessing he’s referring to the results of the meeting held about Greenland.
The story Leavitt and Trump is going with is, the parties agreed to form a working group to discuss the how the US purchase of Greenland could proceed.
That isn’t actually what was agreed because the sale of a self-governing territory of the Kingdom of Denmark was, is and will remain a red line.
Instead, the working group is, to my understanding, to try and address the expressed concerns of Trump regarding security. (Those being obvious bullshit, but it’s at least something where Denmark, Greenland and US could reach a compromise).
That Karoline Leavitt is lying and saying Denmark has enterred negotiations on the US acquisition of Greenland.
Hmm. Looking for english links. Doesnt seem anyone cares what she says anymore. Here it the news from Denmark https://politiken.dk/internationalt...hverve-Grønland-–-men-der-er-stille-fra-Trump
Obviously Leavitt is lying, she's the spokesperson of Trump and has a long track record of lying. Except for some domestic outlets in the US nobody takes what she says serious.
Yeah, while I was tired on the way to bed, I was afraid it could be part of a US strategy of pretending to "win" and enter Greeenland trying to force Denmark to shoot first. With sleep behind me, If there is any strategy behind the lies, I would assume it is for domestic MAGA consumption. Tell the cult they won, after denmark gives them treaty rights they already had.
Caused by Rubio, imho there are multiple factions which have seperate channels of control to talk the senile walking STD and get him to make whatever orders they want from him without cohesion.
Way I figure it there is the Russian faction which is direct putin mostly, whenever he calls home to daddy he always kicks Ukraine afterwards I think Putin gives him a reminder of the CP that he has over Trump.
There is the anti south America and cuba faction which is Rubio. There is the nazi ICE "proto SS" being run by Miller and the Techbro's who alternate between the white supremacy because Musk is a south african racist but mostly they want AI laws and electricity plus bitcoin manipulation.
There lastly is the Mike Johnson religious right faction which is ran by one of the cabinet but not sure who the point person for that is.
The legit businessmen who used to have power in the GOP are no longer in charge but they don't really know it yet their power goes pretty much limp when Mcconnell dies/retires/completes the ritual to descend to the 7th plane of hell to assume his role as Tortiganus the dark lord of sycophancy.
They just get him to nod along and sign shit and they feed him that young intern lady and Adderall in his nuggies.
It's clear whose hand is in the puppet, and that all she is capable of being is a puppet at the moment.
Europe will not step in to replace nato just like that. Some (Spain, ireland) don’t feel threatened by russia. Some will try again the free rider strategy. Some will want to sell their luxury cars and so not antagonise trump or whatever.
Édit : not Even talking about active russian assets ( hungary)
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There’s a great article in Politico (I know, I know) today about Europe’s options for pushing back against Trump. TL;DR, there are lots of options and possibilities, but it’s extremely complex, and every option has significant challenges and potential downsides.
The whole article is worth a read.
(Anybody know how to insert blank lines between paragraphs without the forum automatically splitting it into separate quotes?)
The whole article is worth a read.
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The perfect base for Trump-landia. The most beautiful resort you'll ever see.
Hell Disney will be so jealous they'll shut down their parks in embarrassment.
The EU has extended its protection guarantee to Greenland.
I dont have an english language source at the moment, this is in Dutch:
I dont have an english language source at the moment, this is in Dutch:
This is why it's so dangerous to even meet with Trump's people about matters such as this. Now the US internal story is that acquisition is on the table, so when Denmark refuse to sell, the story will be a broken deal with an unreasonable nation and Trump's regime can use that to gin up support for military intervention. Once soldiers are on the ground and a shot is fired, the US will fall into line behind their soldiers, legality be damned.
It's insane, but this is all about manipulating the US populace to go along with an invasion of an ally. Sanity and logic left the room a long time ago and now it's entirely about maximising internal support to reduce friction.
In an earlier age, Trump's envoys would have been sent back minus their bodies. People are more polite nowadays, but the response needs to be the modern version of that - a complete public repudiation of Trump and the ludicrous talk of acquisition. Any ambassadors from the US must be expelled, and their own words give ample justification to do so.
Maybe Denmark should go for a trade with Trump.
Greenland for California, Oregon, and Washington.
Win win. Trump gets rid of states he hates, those states get to live under an actual logical government, and whoever lives in Greenland gets to work at Trump resorts so call that an economic boon.
It could work.
Greenland for California, Oregon, and Washington.
Win win. Trump gets rid of states he hates, those states get to live under an actual logical government, and whoever lives in Greenland gets to work at Trump resorts so call that an economic boon.
It could work.
Yeah, I don't know why you'd even take the meeting. If he said "we want to buy Shenhzhen to boost US manufacturing", China wouldn't bother holding a meeting with him about it.