Twitter Blue is coming back—with more colors and assurances from Musk

Then where are the droves of people leaving Twitter to join Mastodon? The only people saying they'll leave Twitter are the "hall monitor" types everyone else wants them to leave (but unfortunately don't), the mainstream is still on Twitter. And that's before you factor in the massive inertia and network effects.

Twitter is where the mainstream is and there is no sign of that changing. Cope and seethe.
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John Dallman

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Ignoring for a moment that Twitter engagement is through the roof after Elon Musk took over ...
I'd like to see some numbers on that from someone other than Twitter. Musk has motive to lie about it.

Never having been a Twitter user, I'm finding the whole saga hugely entertaining and educational. Entertaining because someone who is so rich and takes himself so seriously is nonetheless self-sabotaging his company and doesn't seem able to admit it to himself. Educational in that I'm learning a lot about the basics of managing large-scale websites and apps, which is making me very happy that I work in a different field of computing.
 
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Justin Credible

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Twitter blue shouldn't give you any checkmark at all.

No, no need to call me a genius. And, Mr. Musk, I'll even give you that idea for free. No need to thank me 😜

As narcissistic as Musk is, he will probably give himself a gold checkmark, and hell, while he's at it, give himself some name colour.
 
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DarthSlack

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I'd like to see some numbers on that from someone other than Twitter. Musk has motive to lie about it.

Never having been a Twitter user, I'm finding the whole saga hugely entertaining and educational. Entertaining because someone who is so rich and takes himself so seriously is nonetheless self-sabotaging his company and doesn't seem able to admit it to himself. Educational in that I'm learning a lot about the basics of managing large-scale websites and apps, which is making me very happy that I work in a different field of computing.

Oddly, I actually believe Musk about the engagement levels. Because it tracks perfectly with that human desire to have a front row seat to watch the train plunge over the cliff into the hurricane-caused burning oil spill. I mean, who DOESN'T want to watch that live?

But give it a couple of months. As people get tired of the constant drama and as the holiday bills set it, people are, by and large, going to find other things to watch.

And besides, none of the current levels of engagement get Musk anywhere near his next vig payment.
 
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profanum

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The coping and seething in the Ars comment section is hilarious.

Ignoring for a moment that Twitter engagement is through the roof after Elon Musk took over, let's focus on the following simple fact:

Whatever happens to Twitter in the future, it doesn't undo the fact that, in the very recent past, Twitter was a major asset for the left, since the previous Twitter management would selectively amplify or shadowban voices based on political affiliation, helping the left control the discourse in a major way. An asset you don't have anymore.

Something tells me you don't really care about what happens to Twitter in the future (it's Elon Musk's money, not yours), you are instead coping for what Twitter did for the left in the past that it doesn't do anymore. The intentional misspellings of Elon Musk's name in other posts is the "seething" part of "coping and seething", in case you were wondering.

But anyway, if people like a space full of "hall monitor" types and selective amplification or shadowbanning of voices based on political affiliation, Mastodon is right there. Let's see if anyone goes there. But keep in mind that Twitter made its name and userbase before the whole selective amplification or shadowbanning of voices based on political affiliation was a thing...

Again, just because your message isn't getting spread to the wind doesn't mean you're shadowbanned. You can still go to LibsOfTiktok or whatever other 'censored' account and see their posts as clear as day.

As far as selective amplification, maybe those accounts subjected to it should try being better people?
 
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Alfonse

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Oddly, I actually believe Musk about the engagement levels. Because it tracks perfectly with that human desire to have a front row seat to watch the train plunge over the cliff into the hurricane-caused burning oil spill. I mean, who DOESN'T want to watch that live?

But give it a couple of months. As people get tired of the constant drama and as the holiday bills set it, people are, by and large, going to find other things to watch.

And besides, none of the current levels of engagement get Musk anywhere near his next vig payment.

Also, don't forget about the World Cup.
 
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OrvGull

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But anyway, if people like a space full of "hall monitor" types and selective amplification or shadowbanning of voices based on political affiliation
As opposed to a space where anyone not cishet Christian is doxxed and their lives threatened? Because that seems to be the direction Elon wants Twitter to go in.
 
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The purpose of the email was partly to reassure advertisers that the Twitter Blue impersonation scandal is actually over and partly to announce new controls allowing advertisers to prevent branded ads from appearing “above or below tweets containing certain keywords,” Reuters reported.

And once those keywords are published/disclosed - and they will be - then trolls will stop using those particular words.

Reminds me of George Carlin's "Seven words you can't say on TV" .... from 1972

And how Battlestar Galactica was using Frak and Felgercarb - in 1978 - as invented curse words to allow their characters to swear in prime time.

Or, more recently, how "BoogaLoo" started being added to keyword lists, and so it was mutated into "Big Luau", and "Cosplay-triots" everywhere started wearing Hawaiian shirts under their body armor.

Any advertiser believing that keyword-based monitoring will prevent their ads from being placed between offensive posts deserve the rude awakening they will experience.
 
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lasertekk

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Hey, thanks for this. I genuinely had no idea what "Twitter Files" is supposed to signify or indicate. I had not heard of this concept before this thread and was frankly a bit exhausted just thinking of untangling that knot.
Excellent read. Thank you. Of course the target audience of those who SHOULD BE reading that don’t have the attention span to get past a tweet of ‘but his laptop’.
 
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Alfonse

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Which would make him the only person on Twitter protected from impersonation once Twitter Blue goes live.
He's also the one person you can still get banned for mocking.

Oh, I'm sure there's more than one of both. There are also people Musk likes. Or basically anybody who sucks up to Musk and then tattletales to Musk when someone does something to them.

Musk is running Twitter like a dictatorship: if you have a problem, you have to suck up to the dictator and gain his favor before anything will be done about it.
 
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Then where are the droves of people leaving Twitter to join Mastodon? The only people saying they'll leave Twitter are the "hall monitor" types everyone else wants them to leave (but unfortunately don't), the mainstream is still on Twitter. And that's before you factor in the massive inertia and network effects.

Twitter is where the mainstream is and there is no sign of that changing. Cope and seethe.

Elton John is the latest high-profile user to quit Twitter, and it won't end there.
 
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I spare no expense for my fellow Arsians!!!
That's what being hardcore means, right? ...... meekly right? guys? I'm hardcore, right???
I'm so hardcore, I generate my own magnetic field (suck on that, Blood Sucking Muskito!) You've still got a ways to go.

Pivoting to the article content, the gray and gold checkmark issue for color blind people could easily be solved by substituting a "G" (business) and "B" (government) for the checkmark, respectively. Not that I think Muskito cares and confusion/harm could very well be the point with this asshole.

edit: missing word.
 
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mpfaff

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Then where are the droves of people leaving Twitter to join Mastodon? The only people saying they'll leave Twitter are the "hall monitor" types everyone else wants them to leave (but unfortunately don't), the mainstream is still on Twitter. And that's before you factor in the massive inertia and network effects.

Twitter is where the mainstream is and there is no sign of that changing. Cope and seethe.

Twitter is where the mainstream is? Of the big social media networks its by far the least popular and unlike the others they haven't worked out a way to successfully monetize it yet. Musk has been made fun of because he's shithousing their main source of income and thinks he can make up for it by charging users, which yes, everyone knows people are willing to pay to participate in a social network...

People aren't flocking to Mastodon because that's not the next big thing, the next big thing hasn't been seen yet.

But you did work in "hall monitor" and "cope", give us a couple more and someone in the comments here might hit right wing chud Bingo.
 
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Why do the alpha incels blathering about coping always come off as bit daft.

Twitter pretty much made its name with the people you are inviting to leave. When that happens it will be a ghost town filled with mental defectives like Truth Social.
What I always love about these numbnuts is that they blatantly admit that Nazis, homophobes and anti-semites as well as lies and misinformation is conservative 'Free speech'.
The post you replied to just gives us one more data point to confirm what we already know but one we can point to and place in the quickly filling data bank.
 
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So, my read is that Musk is completely tied in with right-wing extremists, has full access to “private” user information that he can share with anyone anytime (even “deleted” user information), and is petty, vengeful, and completely amoral regarding his personal conduct. I’m so glad I put nothing to speak of on Twitter and have sympathy for anybody who did and thus has exposure.
Every right-wing accusation is a confession.
 
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Mardaneus

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Oh, I'm sure there's more than one of both. There are also people Musk likes. Or basically anybody who sucks up to Musk and then tattletales to Musk when someone does something to them.

Musk is running Twitter like a dictatorship: if you have a problem, you have to suck up to the dictator and gain his favor before anything will be done about it.
The problem isn't so much that Musk runs the place like a dictatorship, any corporation of this size is technically an autocracy if it were a nation.
The problem is that he doesn't understand the business, does not want to learn, thinks he knows best and fires the people doing their job because he doesn't either like the result, or they are not doing what he is demanding of them but their job, or them doing their job is going against what he thinks is their job.
And that is in addition to being a petty vengeful narcissist who thinks he is even more above the law then the average narcissist.
 
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Twitter blue shouldn't give you any checkmark at all.
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Good suggestion. Perhaps another symbol could be found to represent the status of "Twitter Blue" purchasers.
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Random_stranger

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This idea that Elon Musk, the billionaire, doesn't care about making money is honestly so fucking comical to me.

Oh, I'm sure he cares - but he does own/control multiple companies. If one can manipulate government into giving him huge tax breaks for his other companies / personal income, he may not care much about it operating at a loss.
 
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I'm holding out for the rainbow, trans and enby flag checkmarks. With the rate of rapid development Twitter is undergoing right now those have gotta be what, like a week away?
Considering Musk's personal platforming of the Daily Stormer and other enswastika'd sig-heiling participants in the world Neonazi movement, new official badges are not long behind.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_badge
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_triangle
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Triple_parentheses
 
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Wheels Of Confusion

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So Twitter is “the mainstream”, and Elon Musk bought “the mainstream” and now he dictates what is “the mainstream” and can bestow (or rent for $7-11/mo.) “mainstream” membership, and that’s how any of this works?
Yep, F-R-E-E S-P-E-E-C-H!
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John Dallman

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Oh, I'm sure he cares - but he does own/control multiple companies. If one can manipulate government into giving him huge tax breaks for his other companies / personal income, he may not care much about it operating at a loss.
His best odds for that would seem to be Donald Trump feeling grateful to him for help with winning in 2024. So far, Trump has not returned to Twitter, and isn't much good at feeling grateful.
 
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Mardaneus

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Oh man I was a bit behind on my light reading.
Said light reading probably explains one of the reasons why pay for check marks is back.
S&P suspended Twitters credit rating. That basically prevents banks from repackaging the loans to sell them to investors as something like a collateralized debt obligation. Which would explain the other bit of info. That the banks that have Twitter loans are looking to shift part of those loans from Twitter to Musk. Do note that this would also increase the time before the financial situation would put Twitter into bankruptcy due to a decrease debt to be serviced by Twitter.
 
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