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I've been away from Ars for most of the last two weeks following this mess. I stopped by today to check things out. And stuck my head into this thread. And I think I'll plan on just staying away going forward. Trust takes a long time to build and can be destroyed in an instant. In this case...

rewrite is much much better. The editorial note at the end is pretty good: commits to process changes and contains a real apology. So, now, Ars, please be sure to actually make those process changes. Cause the time for nice words is past. The rewrite is a good first step.

This is now a good article. And appreciate what appears to be actual self-reflection and a real apology at the end.

well, Monday has come and gone. And the official Ars response is to hide, do the bare minimum, and hope to wait out this self-caused storm. Coupled with a good amount of defensiveness. And to try to both sides and legitimize the question of whether a class of people should exist and should...

Yes, indeed. Moderation is just one part of what's currently broken as part of a systemic failure at Ars. Obviously resources for moderation are a critical issue: Aurich acknowledges that they can't give moderation the time it needs. Moderation guidelines / policy is another topic. But, the...

It's good that Aurich is engaged. It's good that one of the most awful bigots got banned. I hope there's more going on behind the scenes and that we'll get an update shortly. (The damned article is still up on the FP promoting Walsh's transphobic propaganda.)

Indeed there are subjects that need to be talked about with great care. Because they're very personal to people and can be matters of life and death. If you don't like speaking carefully and considering the people you're speaking to and about, then at the minimum you're an asshole. And if the...

At this point, I'll accept waiting for Ars till COB on Monday and hoping we'll see some real action. Most of the harm has already been done by leaving this article up over the first weekend of Pride and by trying to hide their edits in order to obscure what is no longer unconscious. (I do expect...

Yes. Even though it carries no update or revision labels, shows the date as Friday late morning when the article was originally published, and lists no authors or editors besides the original author. To my read, the original was more painfully oblivious and unknowingly offensive. The revised...

This. Exactly this.

Since moderation and correcting blatant bias now seems to be outsourced to the community and implemented by downvoting to oblivion and posting corrections, it would be great if we could include a link to Masnick's post in the comment thread of the deplorable Ars article. Oh, except the...

Yes, they do suggest that you practice and get a consistent dip&smooth size. That with just a little bit of practice, you can get a consistent amount. Which means measuring by volume is feasible. I just think it's a lot easier to do by weight, but if your recipes are working, then great!

People have measured this. It's easy to scoop flour and get a range as big as 125g to 160g for "one cup". Here's more than you want about measuring: https://www.seriouseats.com/how-to-measure-wet-dry-ingredients-for-baking-accurately-best-method Dry ingredients by weight is the way ...

Totally agree with everything you said. Just wanted to point out that I can't find any actual message of lessons being learned or intent to do anything different going forward. Which does indeed make those protestations hard to believe ...

just to be clear, I'm talking about the previous article on twitter dropping hate speech protections. Not the current article promoting Walsh while using Irwin's departure as a hook. The current article is not ok either in original or edit. Still a shitshow. I haven't gone back to the previous...

The ironic thing about the rewrite is that @shelbystripes already did this. And did a better job with a lighter touch than the revision ... https://meincmagazine.com/civis/threads/twitter-safety-chief-resigns-after-musk-criticizes-decision-to-restrict-film.1492421/page-10#post-41918218

As I recall, that article was fine. It was the shitstorm in the comments with unmoderated bigotry allowed to stand. I think Aurich eventually cleaned up the comment section so you won't see the worst of the worst now, but there was a good two day period where hate was just accepted. Coupled with...

I appreciate this comment, including that it's from Ken. And that the story is being revised and that the response is coming during the weekend. This is much better than doing nothing. However, this is far from enough. If this is the end of the conversation and of Ars's changes, then that is a...

Locking the comment thread was probably the only thing to do, but it's also an admission of failure. Coupled with leaving the article on the front page, probably for the weekend is really not ok. I can totally understand that Aurich probably can't make the decision to pull the article without...

I understand that Ars doesn't have the funds or inclination to do serious edits before publishing articles. Most of the time this is OK and gives independence to the authors. Which is generally good. It would sure be nice to see some extra attention paid to topics which are very likely to lead...