Trump’s swift demolition of East Wing may have launched asbestos plumes
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The Hanford Site reports are one hell of a read. They're just page after page of "So, the 1960s nuclear weapons engineers went to the 1960s chemical engineers and asked for a tanker car each of their 20 nastiest most aggressive solvents, then they tried dissolving the radioactive plutonium in each of them, and this one worked but the other 19 didn't, so they dumped them in underground tanks 24 through 43 beside the river and buried it and moved on. Now we're spending $4bn to clean that experiment up." Repeated like 20 times over until they've spent the GDP of a midsize island nation on "toxic radioactive hazmat leaking into the river" abatement.
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Trump is to old to care even if it affects him, asbestos is unlikely to have time to kill him before old age does, and if you think he cares for his family, well I doubt that he would understand the question.
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If you've been paying any attention at all to Mike Johnson, you'd know that he doesn't know anything about it—or just learned about it—so he can't comment. Other than that, it's the fault of the Democrats.
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Asbestos is certainly the leading cause of mesothelioma, but it is not the ONLY cause. We lost a dear friend (only 40 years old) to that disease a couple years ago and there was no way there had been any asbestos exposure to act as a trigger.
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I feel so, so bad for anyone who was exposed, including people just walking by. Their bodies are now ticking time bombs.
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Here's the thing about cancer..... Whether or not you get it is largely dependent on genetics and prior exposure to carcinogens. Two people standing next to each other and watching the East Wing get torn down, inhaling the same amount of asbestos, can have two VERY different outcomes depending on the genes they inherited and what they've come across during life.
So claiming that you can't get it by one exposure is bullshit. Maybe not you, but someone can.
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Trump's quote is "safe once applied", which tells you everything you need to know about how he values the lives of mining and construction workers. Asbestos doesn't tend to harm the millionaires and billionaires who live in Manhattan apartments, and that's all that matters.
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They’ve just put up a new “renovation” of the White House website
https://www.whitehouse.gov/mysafespace/
https://www.whitehouse.gov/mysafespace/
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That’s on an official government website.
America sure is great again innit.
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"There is no confirmation that the Trump admin. followed abatement processes."
At this point, why would anyone entertain the theory that the Trump administration ever considers whether anything they want might be illegal? Steamrolling the law appears to be just another Machiavellian thrill boost for this openly criminal administration.
At this point, why would anyone entertain the theory that the Trump administration ever considers whether anything they want might be illegal? Steamrolling the law appears to be just another Machiavellian thrill boost for this openly criminal administration.
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I didn't want to click on the link, thinking it was a compromised page or something, but after checking, I went and wow....this is an actual, official US Government White House page. All US tax-payers, citizens and residents really should see this so you can form your own opinion on our government's messaging, priorities and use of tax-payer money.
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Thankfully for Trump, the EPA is already 65% defunded, so nothing to worry about.
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It's not just one page, either. Have a look at the major events timeline on the 'About the White House' page.
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Honestly, I think simply changing "confirmation" to "indication" is the only change needed. "There is no indication the administration followed proper. . ." It's truthful. It's not biased, because there isn't any indication they followed it. It's not even innately charged language. It's just straightforward.
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You need to sell it differently to make a little dent. Maga mode on: this was an attempt at murdering the president! Biden put the asbestos there on purpose etc. etc. Oh well... why bother.
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Demolition company’s website is under construction.
Fits this timeline nicely.
Fits this timeline nicely.
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Capone went down on charges of Tax Evasion. It's usually mundane rule of law stuff that slips past the defenses put up by abusers-of-power and allows them to be brought down.
I definitely feel the frustration though. The man basically stole the damn country, and here we are arguing about building permits.
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Criminal
Asbestos doesn’t recognize hubris, entitlement or malevolent kingship. Neither do the courts, EPA or MDs. A lot of people were harmed, fated to ills and destiny with death in the worst case.
The entirety of the White House will need de-contaminated and systems replaced whole such as HVAC. How ironic that Trump fate should befall at his own hand, in his own industry of expertise and stain the house forever by the ignoramos
Asbestos doesn’t recognize hubris, entitlement or malevolent kingship. Neither do the courts, EPA or MDs. A lot of people were harmed, fated to ills and destiny with death in the worst case.
The entirety of the White House will need de-contaminated and systems replaced whole such as HVAC. How ironic that Trump fate should befall at his own hand, in his own industry of expertise and stain the house forever by the ignoramos
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The media has been Trump's best friend since 2016. Not just FOX and Newsmax, even NYT and ostensibly liberal/left outlets, pundits, comedians, podcasters, etc have sanewashed his speech, projected their preferred policy positions onto him, and above all treated him as a serious person, while simultaneously refusing to actually report his scandals as such. How many times did we hear about Clinton's emails, or that she was the "Hawk" candidate while Trump was the "Dove"? It's utter insanity, and they do it because every day Trump gave them juicy new bits of clickbait.
They all love him because he's a ragebait generating machine to draw viewers. He makes them shitloads of money. Clinton didn't, and Biden didn't, so instead they relentlessly reported on her emails, Biden's son, and Biden's supposed fall into dementia. They turned these things into massive scandals by sheer volume and frequency of coverage, while Trump just gets one mention on whatever insane thing he does and then the media moves on. And even the freaking GOP congresscritters just get a free pass "I don't know", "I haven't heard about it", "It only just happened and I'm waiting for more information". The press won't hold these people to this crap, they just ask softball questions and never followup because God forbid a right wing snowflake in a position of power get his freaking fee-fees hurt.
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I learned a new work today.
I found out that it did mean what I thought it meant.
I...don't know what to do with this knowledge.
Though Trump is giving me coulrophobia. Though is it really irrational?
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Asbestos exposure is not the only cause of mesothelioma. It's just the cause the overwhelming majority of the time so it gets assumed that if you have it it was caused by asbestos, at least in the United States.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29480760/
https://mesothelioma.net/mesothelioma-without-asbestos-a-rare-occurrence/
Exposure to other brittle, fibrous minerals like erionite or mineral-like things (read: carbon nanotubes) can cause mesothelioma as well, as can things like radiation exposure or just bad luck with genetics.
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Well, there's no statue of limitations for violations of the Hatch Act, so if someone with balls ever gets into office before they die, yes.
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