Each autistics' brain is distinct; non-autistics' brains are remarkably uniform.
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Actually, we just don't know (since the brain/nervous system are so complex, and we haven't yet done whole genome sequencing of lots of ASD vs. control individuals for a proper comparison).[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28351741#p28351741:1ahf8ibm said:Fatesrider[/url]":1ahf8ibm]...
The question appears to be less about genetics than environmental factors. Genetically speaking, from what I've read, those who are autistic aren't fundamentally different than others.
You're right, it's not vaccines -- we've got good evidence for that. To clarify though, the genome is so complex and varies so much from person to person that different people's responses to a similar substance could vary widely, so you wouldn't necessarily expect similar changes in thinking patterns.[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28351741#p28351741:1ahf8ibm said:Fatesrider[/url]":1ahf8ibm]... But somewhere along the line, the thinking patterns alter - and no, it isn't caused by vaccines, either. If it was, the changes in thinking patterns would be similar, and they're not. .
Indeed. The obsessions that come with autism can provide an edge in many applications but it doesn't follow that it is a requirement.[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28351211#p28351211:rxv3dxmp said:jphamlore[/url]":rxv3dxmp][url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28351045#p28351045:rxv3dxmp said:karadoc[/url]":rxv3dxmp]Indeed.[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28350519#p28350519:rxv3dxmp said:snowcat-il[/url]":rxv3dxmp]So this means my brain is very unique and not a boring plain vanilla brain![]()
I've heard it claimed that a person needs to be a bit autistic to be truly brilliant. I personally don't really like to call anyone a genius or brilliant or whatever; but I will say that the ability to 'think outside the box' and a tendency to become obsessed with certain topics are both advantages when it comes to deep thinking, discovery, invention, and artistic creation.
Nothing I have ever read about Richard Feynman indicates he had any trace of autism.
[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28351771#p28351771:32k43mu9 said:sprockkets[/url]":32k43mu9]I can assure you that 30 something years ago, when there were no cell signals, wifi signals, and about less than 10 channels of tv, didn't stop me from having a form of AS.[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28351523#p28351523:32k43mu9 said:SharZee[/url]":32k43mu9]Why the differences in autistic brains?
If autistic brains have been developmentally damaged/impaired, the amount and impact of damage would vary and cause unique results. I propose that radiofrequency radiation is one immensely important factor in the biological impacts/damage of the brain, from autism to Alzheimer's and other brain-damaged conditions.
Evidence is in the science, but the popularity of wireless means you will not hear about it, since no precautions are being recommended by regulators. This is nothing new, think asbestos, lead paint and tobacco... To sample the science showing this kind of damage from radiofrequency/microwaves FAR BELOW what is allowed, please view Dr. Erica Mallery-Blythe's 2014 talk on children and emr at youtube. See also Dr. Leif Salford's presentation there on his long-term work on blood brain barrier and radiofrequency damage, which causes leaking. For consumer friendly site, see BabySafe Project. And for cutting edge science showing results in mice of very brief wifi exposure see at Medical Symposium at C4ST the informal study by Dr. Hugh Taylor of Yale.
Those charged with protecting lives are more interested in innovations, fun and profit. The brain damage has only just begun. FCC is allowing DAS antennas (small cellular antennas) to build out wireless infrastructure quicker EVERYWHERE. This means more damage to the public, esp. children and all future generations. Once DNA is damaged it impacts all generations.
Some believe that infertility and genetic damage is intended to cut back human populations. Who knows? It certainly appears that the utter lies of regulatory officials and industry will result plenty of harm to individuals and the human species, in general.
Wired, cable and fiber allow access that is 100% SAFE. Why aren't officials building these out? Whatever the reason, the results spell disaster.
[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28351549#p28351549:3ijuod7c said:Theala Sildorian[/url]":3ijuod7c][url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28351475#p28351475:3ijuod7c said:giltwist[/url]":3ijuod7c][url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28351211#p28351211:3ijuod7c said:jphamlore[/url]":3ijuod7c][url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28351045#p28351045:3ijuod7c said:karadoc[/url]":3ijuod7c]Indeed.[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28350519#p28350519:3ijuod7c said:snowcat-il[/url]":3ijuod7c]So this means my brain is very unique and not a boring plain vanilla brain![]()
I've heard it claimed that a person needs to be a bit autistic to be truly brilliant. I personally don't really like to call anyone a genius or brilliant or whatever; but I will say that the ability to 'think outside the box' and a tendency to become obsessed with certain topics are both advantages when it comes to deep thinking, discovery, invention, and artistic creation.
Nothing I have ever read about Richard Feynman indicates he had any trace of autism.
When I was in grad school, I had a friend in the psychology department specializing in schizophrenia. He argued that all "mental illness" is actually a vital coping mechanism just overused or underused. So for example, paranoia is the vital coping mechanism of distrust of other taken to the extreme. Likewise, he opined that schizophrenia and genius both share the trait of "creates dramatically different chains of cause-effect reasoning than normal people." The difference between them, according to him, is that a person with schizophrenia fails to engage in "source monitoring" (which is determining the origin of an idea) which led to making larger and less reliable intuitive leaps compared to a genius. I suppose the same could be true of autism. Both the autistic and genius mind need to be able to make idiosyncratic neural connections (which I believe is formally called neuroplasticity), but perhaps where the genius has the dial set to 8, the autistic has set to 11.
His idea grossly oversimplifies what goes on with the diseases you mention. I wonder . . . did your friend graduate?
Work in the tech field, you will quickly change your mind.[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28352013#p28352013:31qxfsgz said:NoTimeForTrolls[/url]":31qxfsgz]In my experience of being a person in a subset of ASD, and doing volunteer work with other people with ASD, none of the people I have met are "brilliant", but are definitely not "mentally impaired" either.
[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28351757#p28351757:z2b5lzbo said:Leid[/url]":z2b5lzbo][url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28351565#p28351565:z2b5lzbo said:Theala Sildorian[/url]":z2b5lzbo][url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28350671#p28350671:z2b5lzbo said:systemsready[/url]":z2b5lzbo]Huh. Does this possibly explain why I can't even fit in among other autistic people?
Everyone, from my mom to my psychiatrist to my therapist, magically expects me to feel better when I'm around other neuroatypical people...yet I find it just as hard to make friends with them as I do with "normal" people...they feel just as fundamentally different from me.
Autism is in large part a communication disorder.
Now if your ability to communicate (whether to send, receive, or both) is impaired with normal people, why on God's green earth would anyone expect things to be different with other people with communication disorders, be it autism or anything else!
:facepalm:
I'm pretty sure people just think: "Mental and physical disabilities A, B and C benefit from support groups, therefore so will mental disability D." My experience has been much like systemready's, that that logic really doesn't apply to autism spectrum disorders. People with autism have drastically different levels of social impairment and overall function; putting them together based solely only the autism diagnosis isn't going to result in a group with many commonalities.
For example, I usually converse better with more outgoing, i.e non-autistic, people. They do the heavy lifting of initiating and keeping things going so that I don't have to.
I'm not sure why this particular post is being downvoted. The only thing I can think of is that stating that autism is a communication disorder may be misleading, depending on how that statement is interpreted. Autism doesn't necessarily mean you talk and write like a fictional cave man; high functioning autistic people can be as clear and eloquent as anyone else in the right environment.
[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28352051#p28352051:11y2378j said:giltwist[/url]":11y2378j][url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28351549#p28351549:11y2378j said:Theala Sildorian[/url]":11y2378j][url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28351475#p28351475:11y2378j said:giltwist[/url]":11y2378j][url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28351211#p28351211:11y2378j said:jphamlore[/url]":11y2378j][url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28351045#p28351045:11y2378j said:karadoc[/url]":11y2378j]Indeed.[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28350519#p28350519:11y2378j said:snowcat-il[/url]":11y2378j]So this means my brain is very unique and not a boring plain vanilla brain![]()
I've heard it claimed that a person needs to be a bit autistic to be truly brilliant. I personally don't really like to call anyone a genius or brilliant or whatever; but I will say that the ability to 'think outside the box' and a tendency to become obsessed with certain topics are both advantages when it comes to deep thinking, discovery, invention, and artistic creation.
Nothing I have ever read about Richard Feynman indicates he had any trace of autism.
When I was in grad school, I had a friend in the psychology department specializing in schizophrenia. He argued that all "mental illness" is actually a vital coping mechanism just overused or underused. So for example, paranoia is the vital coping mechanism of distrust of other taken to the extreme. Likewise, he opined that schizophrenia and genius both share the trait of "creates dramatically different chains of cause-effect reasoning than normal people." The difference between them, according to him, is that a person with schizophrenia fails to engage in "source monitoring" (which is determining the origin of an idea) which led to making larger and less reliable intuitive leaps compared to a genius. I suppose the same could be true of autism. Both the autistic and genius mind need to be able to make idiosyncratic neural connections (which I believe is formally called neuroplasticity), but perhaps where the genius has the dial set to 8, the autistic has set to 11.
His idea grossly oversimplifies what goes on with the diseases you mention. I wonder . . . did your friend graduate?
Or maybe he was putting things in terms that someone who wasn't getting a Ph.D. in psychology would understand.
[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28350701#p28350701:qv6e3rl4 said:Mondoman[/url]":qv6e3rl4]I'm confused by the story's final paragraph. The author says:The author seems to be assuming that neural connections are shaped ONLY by the routine behaviors (and not, for example, by gene products that affect neuronal "pathfinding"), and thus suggesting that ASD might be *caused* by idiosyncratic behaviors and experiences.An intriguing possibility is that, because neural connections are shaped by the routine behaviors and experiences that we have every day, people with ASD each exhibit idiosyncratic connectivity patterns in their brains because they each experience the world and interact with their environment in an idiosyncratic way.
Given the range of behaviors of children, this seems farfetched -- is there any evidence for this?
[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28350849#p28350849:2lwkd98u said:beebee[/url]":2lwkd98u]This would be an interesting test to run on autistic savants. Do those with the same skills have the same wiring?
And am I the only person here that wants one of these plots for my brain? The image is beyond fascinating.
[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28351523#p28351523:20wf9g0t said:SharZee[/url]":20wf9g0t]Why the differences in autistic brains?
If autistic brains have been developmentally damaged/impaired, the amount and impact of damage would vary and cause unique results. I propose that radiofrequency radiation is one immensely important factor in the biological impacts/damage of the brain, from autism to Alzheimer's and other brain-damaged conditions.
Evidence is in the science, but the popularity of wireless means you will not hear about it, since no precautions are being recommended by regulators. This is nothing new, think asbestos, lead paint and tobacco... To sample the science showing this kind of damage from radiofrequency/microwaves FAR BELOW what is allowed, please view Dr. Erica Mallery-Blythe's 2014 talk on children and emr at youtube. See also Dr. Leif Salford's presentation there on his long-term work on blood brain barrier and radiofrequency damage, which causes leaking. For consumer friendly site, see BabySafe Project. And for cutting edge science showing results in mice of very brief wifi exposure see at Medical Symposium at C4ST the informal study by Dr. Hugh Taylor of Yale.
Those charged with protecting lives are more interested in innovations, fun and profit. The brain damage has only just begun. FCC is allowing DAS antennas (small cellular antennas) to build out wireless infrastructure quicker EVERYWHERE. This means more damage to the public, esp. children and all future generations. Once DNA is damaged it impacts all generations.
Some believe that infertility and genetic damage is intended to cut back human populations. Who knows? It certainly appears that the utter lies of regulatory officials and industry will result plenty of harm to individuals and the human species, in general.
Wired, cable and fiber allow access that is 100% SAFE. Why aren't officials building these out? Whatever the reason, the results spell disaster.
And yet, another broad set of symptoms (the different types of cancer) is coming to be understood as type-specific defects + defects in an underlying set of common pathways affecting cell growth.[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28352169#p28352169:gy4m2d35 said:angrydurf[/url]":gy4m2d35]... There are a wide range of behaviors that get lumped into Autism with varied effect on the individuals ability to function. It is highly unlikely that so broad a set of symptoms has a single underlying cause.
In the end, it's natural selection that decides. The more offspring you successfully raise, the greater your "fitness" (in a technical sense).[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28352261#p28352261:855yv5wb said:Ralf The Dog[/url]":855yv5wb]First off, who is to say an ASD is developmentally damaged or impaired....
Dude, you're a dog![url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28352287#p28352287:wfa5aqqe said:Ralf The Dog[/url]":wfa5aqqe]...
My current theory, I am not ASD, I am just messed up.
[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28352291#p28352291:4h73f3tn said:Mondoman[/url]":4h73f3tn]In the end, it's natural selection that decides. The more offspring you successfully raise, the greater your "fitness" (in a technical sense).[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28352261#p28352261:4h73f3tn said:Ralf The Dog[/url]":4h73f3tn]First off, who is to say an ASD is developmentally damaged or impaired....
[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28352395#p28352395:2vwahi6n said:Pichu0102[/url]":2vwahi6n]Oh no, this will set back treatment research further. Common symptoms with completely different brain wiring per subject? That sound was a collective bunch of scientists popping open another beer to drown out the agony of their work going down the drain.
As for those of us with autism, this could explain why it's hard to find a good treatment that works for all of us. On the bad side, this explains why it's hard to find a good treatment that works for all of us. Christ, the despair never ends...
[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28352395#p28352395:3sscftd9 said:Pichu0102[/url]":3sscftd9]Oh no, this will set back treatment research further. Common symptoms with completely different brain wiring per subject? That sound was a collective bunch of scientists popping open another beer to drown out the agony of their work going down the drain.
As for those of us with autism, this could explain why it's hard to find a good treatment that works for all of us. On the bad side, this explains why it's hard to find a good treatment that works for all of us. Christ, the despair never ends...
[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28351543#p28351543:4bl3yvc4 said:Theala Sildorian[/url]":4bl3yvc4][url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28351523#p28351523:4bl3yvc4 said:SharZee[/url]":4bl3yvc4]Why the differences in autistic brains?
If autistic brains have been developmentally damaged/impaired, the amount and impact of damage would vary and cause unique results. I propose that radiofrequency radiation is one immensely important factor in the biological impacts/damage of the brain, from autism to Alzheimer's and other brain-damaged conditions.
<snip paranoid rant with no evidence to support it>
Wired, cable and fiber allow access that is 100% SAFE. Why aren't officials building these out? Whatever the reason, the results spell disaster.
Come here. Sit down. I've got your tinfoil hat all ready for you.
[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28353363#p28353363:czjdclut said:RolandL[/url]":czjdclut]So too much or too little connectivity has a negative impact on social function. I have to wonder what this means for Artificial Intelligence. AI would have "too many" connections in ALL areas. So my guess is that super-intelligence is either not possible or not social, probably the latter. I leave the consequences of that to your imagination, and to Hollywood.
[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28353363#p28353363:r6u1fotj said:RolandL[/url]":r6u1fotj]So too much or too little connectivity has a negative impact on social function. I have to wonder what this means for Artificial Intelligence. AI would have "too many" connections in ALL areas. So my guess is that super-intelligence is either not possible or not social, probably the latter. I leave the consequences of that to your imagination, and to Hollywood.
An intriguing possibility is that, because neural connections are shaped by the routine behaviors and experiences that we have every day, people with ASD each exhibit idiosyncratic connectivity patterns in their brains because they each experience the world and interact with their environment in an idiosyncratic way. Their idiosyncratic behaviors prevent them from engaging in the typical interactions that create typical brain scans.
From reading The Selfish Gene, this seems like the reason people are so altruistic - specially in an age (I.e. the past) where you were very likely to live near people (I.e. relatives) who shared your genes.[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28352309#p28352309:1vzshwxj said:Ralf The Dog[/url]":1vzshwxj][url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28352291#p28352291:1vzshwxj said:Mondoman[/url]":1vzshwxj]In the end, it's natural selection that decides. The more offspring you successfully raise, the greater your "fitness" (in a technical sense).[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28352261#p28352261:1vzshwxj said:Ralf The Dog[/url]":1vzshwxj]First off, who is to say an ASD is developmentally damaged or impaired....
Not completely true. If you don't have children, but your actions result in your brothers, sisters and others with related DNA passing on their DNA, you are by proxy genetically successful. Lets say, you dive on a live grenade, saving your brother and your brother has 12 kids, Darwin would say, you did a good job, even if you never have one child.
The NHTSA would clearly argue that cell phones ARE dangerous. Just coming back to work from lunch I was nearly in an automotive accident caused by an idiot using a cell phone while driving. Radio frequency dangers? The carrier wave does not have enough energy to cause any significant interaction with tissue.[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28351977#p28351977:258n0wtd said:beebee[/url]":258n0wtd][url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28351771#p28351771:258n0wtd said:sprockkets[/url]":258n0wtd]I can assure you that 30 something years ago, when there were no cell signals, wifi signals, and about less than 10 channels of tv, didn't stop me from having a form of AS.[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28351523#p28351523:258n0wtd said:SharZee[/url]":258n0wtd]Why the differences in autistic brains?
If autistic brains have been developmentally damaged/impaired, the amount and impact of damage would vary and cause unique results. I propose that radiofrequency radiation is one immensely important factor in the biological impacts/damage of the brain, from autism to Alzheimer's and other brain-damaged conditions.
Evidence is in the science, but the popularity of wireless means you will not hear about it, since no precautions are being recommended by regulators. This is nothing new, think asbestos, lead paint and tobacco... To sample the science showing this kind of damage from radiofrequency/microwaves FAR BELOW what is allowed, please view Dr. Erica Mallery-Blythe's 2014 talk on children and emr at youtube. See also Dr. Leif Salford's presentation there on his long-term work on blood brain barrier and radiofrequency damage, which causes leaking. For consumer friendly site, see BabySafe Project. And for cutting edge science showing results in mice of very brief wifi exposure see at Medical Symposium at C4ST the informal study by Dr. Hugh Taylor of Yale.
Those charged with protecting lives are more interested in innovations, fun and profit. The brain damage has only just begun. FCC is allowing DAS antennas (small cellular antennas) to build out wireless infrastructure quicker EVERYWHERE. This means more damage to the public, esp. children and all future generations. Once DNA is damaged it impacts all generations.
Some believe that infertility and genetic damage is intended to cut back human populations. Who knows? It certainly appears that the utter lies of regulatory officials and industry will result plenty of harm to individuals and the human species, in general.
Wired, cable and fiber allow access that is 100% SAFE. Why aren't officials building these out? Whatever the reason, the results spell disaster.
To play devil's advocate, autism has been on the rise, and so has RF smog. However correlation is not causation. Since there is no definitive test for autism, the definition for the diagnosis has broadened.
Without drifting off topic too far, you will not eliminate RF smog. You can limit your dose. For the average person, their RF exposure is due to cell phones. A wired or bluetooth headset reduced your exposure by a few orders or magnitude. This boils down to the risk management notion of the precautionary principle.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precautionary_principle
Nobody has proven cell phones are dangerous. But the nature of the experiment is you can't prove they are safe.
I average about two hours a day with a bluetooth headset in my ear and I'm not concerned.
There's also the possibility that idiosyncratic brains are the 'normal' baseline, and that 'neurotypical' brains have a series of adaptions that allow them to or make them conform. If the altered brains became dominant, then they become considered normal, and thus abnormal is defined by the lack of those adaptations. This would be similar to how 'lactose intolerant' is considered abnormal in the West despite not being able to process lactose as an adult being the norm by far in mammals and by a pretty decent margin even in humans.[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=28355457#p28355457:1w65ucc4 said:Midnitte[/url]":1w65ucc4]An intriguing possibility is that, because neural connections are shaped by the routine behaviors and experiences that we have every day, people with ASD each exhibit idiosyncratic connectivity patterns in their brains because they each experience the world and interact with their environment in an idiosyncratic way. Their idiosyncratic behaviors prevent them from engaging in the typical interactions that create typical brain scans.
I feel like this is probably the case, and because autistics have less experience in social behavior, its very likely that such connections that strengthen in response to it would be weaker.
Perhaps this could be used a measure of success for therapies though? If we can strengthen those connections, doesn't it seem likely that symptoms of autism would be lessened?