The Boys S5 trailer tees up a bloody final season

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I want to make some sort of witty comparison between The Boys and the current timeline we're living in (given that The Boys is chock full of right wing parodies), but I'm all witty'ed out given the events of the past week.

Seeing the trailer just highlights how fucked we all are.
 
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I've been waiting for this. Very exciting.

But because Amazon has polluted their streaming service with insufferable ads, I'll wait until the season has mostly dropped before dropping three bucks for a month's ad-free, catch up on a couple other Prime shows that are already out and on my list, then drop ad-free again.
 
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It cracks me up so much that MAGA initially loved this show. Less self awareness than a stoat, those guys.
They did hit "both sides" a bit. Remember "girls get it done"? Though that came from the mouth of a Nazi POS. The writers might have been playing higher level chess than I was aware of at the time.
 
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Awesome and ugh.

My wife and I watch this and enjoy it, but by the end of a season the ultraviolence has us exhausted and fed up.

Looking forward to an excellent show... and it being over.

So conflicted.
This is where I'm at, kind of exhausted by it, but I've also enjoyed it and I should see it through after coming this far.

So I'm glad they're wrapping it up, if this was going to keep trudging on for indeterminate more seasons I think I would likely just bail.

I hope they don't have some need to one up everything they've done so far though. :scared:
 
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Ugh, why'd you have to remind me? I love The Boys a ton, but getting through even the first season of Gen V was....an effort, to put it nicely. It just doesn't gel with me at all.
Yeah, see my comment about about the Boys exhausting me and then triple it for Gen V. That first season made me feel like I needed to take shower every episode.

It's not that it was badly done or badly written, it just felt a little too on the nose at times and bummed me out. I have yet to watch season 2 for that reason. But the first season was pretty relevant to season 4 of The Boys, so I guess I should.
 
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It cracks me up so much that MAGA initially loved this show. Less self awareness than a stoat, those guys.
I was in a discussion with some people in a pinball forum about the show, and that hobby is unfortunately full of magats. I was very amused when they started to complain about how the show went 'woke' after season 2.

Right, that's what happened. 😂
 
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They did hit "both sides" a bit. Remember "girls get it done"? Though that came from the mouth of a Nazi POS. The writers might have been playing higher level chess than I was aware of at the time.
But girls did get it done. In that she got her arse handed to her by a bunch of other super-powered women who kicked the shit out of her.

Gender switching Stormfront was a good enough idea, but that scene alone made it worth it.

I was in a discussion with some people in a pinball forum about the show, and that hobby is unfortunately full of magats. I was very amused when they started to complain about how the show went 'woke' after season 2.

Right, that's what happened. 😂
Did they actually think Homelander was the hero? Because I've heard of that happening, but I'm not sure how anyone could, given the structure of the show.
 
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It's the rare movie that is far, far better than the book.

Would you like to know more?
Seriously? The movie is well known to be based on a script that had nothing to do with the book. It also stripped away the very thing that made the MI the MI. It introduced salacious plot elements for the sake of salaciousness. And minimized the philosophical discussions that occurred in the book.

Note that I am not defending Heinlein in all of this, but the movie was not better than the book, because it was not a movie of the book.

Also, Haldeman’s response to ST (The Forever War) was much better.
 
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Seriously? The movie is well known to be based on a script that had nothing to do with the book. It also stripped away the very thing that made the MI the MI. It introduced salacious plot elements for the sake of salaciousness. And minimized the philosophical discussions that occurred in the book.

Note that I am not defending Heinlein in all of this, but the movie was not better than the book, because it was not a movie of the book.

Also, Haldeman’s response to ST (The Forever War) was much better.
It's a parody of the book, which is full-on fascist garbage. The book, that is. As parody of same, the movie is hilarious.
 
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Awesome and ugh.

My wife and I watch this and enjoy it, but by the end of a season the ultraviolence has us exhausted and fed up.

Looking forward to an excellent show... and it being over.

So conflicted.

I started watching season one, not really liking the ultraviolence and gave up after the plane scene with Homelander and the Wonder Woman/American Maid character. Ugh, I just couldn't continue after that.

(I have made it through Invincible, perhaps because it's a cartoon, but my reservations on the unnecessary violence are still there for some scenes, particularly the extended fight scene between Invincible and his father where all the human casualties happened.)
 
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Did they actually think Homelander was the hero? Because I've heard of that happening, but I'm not sure how anyone could, given the structure of the show.
I honestly don't know what they thought. I mean, "woke after season 2" is telling as far as what they were mad about, but it's also telling as far as what they were oblivious the entire time to.
 
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I started watching season one, not really liking the ultraviolence and gave up after the plane scene with Homelander and the Wonder Woman/American Maid character. Ugh, I just couldn't continue after that.
You made the right call for yourself, it just keeps ramping up honestly.
 
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I started watching season one, not really liking the ultraviolence and gave up after the plane scene with Homelander and the Wonder Woman/American Maid character. Ugh, I just couldn't continue after that.

(I have made it through Invincible, perhaps because it's a cartoon, but my reservations on the unnecessary violence are still there for some scenes, particularly the extended fight scene between Invincible and his father where all the human casualties happened.)
I reacted to that Invincible scene even worse than anything in The Boys. Mainly because The Boys is meant to be a parody, but Invincible is meant to be taken seriously.
 
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I honestly don't know what they thought. I mean, "woke after season 2" is telling as far as what they were mad about, but it's also telling as far as what they were oblivious the entire time to.
Did you ask them to define "woke"?

I've yet to hear anyone on the right define what "woke" means after they've used it as a pejorative.
 
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So lets see...
Trump fired Kristi Noem today, so that means Homelander is gonna kill Firecracker in some astonishingly violent and unexpected way, right?

Right?

Am I misunderstanding the cause and effect here?
Not fired, just moved to another position. ICE Barbie has reportedly been spotted shopping for a new hat.

Look out for Cartel BarbieTM, in stores soon!
 
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Fascists being unable to see themselves in the mirror is a feature, not a bug.
Sadly, fascists being unable to see each other in the mirror is definitely a bug. We'd be perfectly fine if - for instance - Musk had backed Harris because Trump's a scuzball, while still being a scuzball himself.
 
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It's a parody of the book, which is full-on fascist garbage. The book, that is. As parody of same, the movie is hilarious.
Hell yeah .. sitting in a theatre for the original men-in-black, the trailer for troopers popped up and I thot 'oh, they're making a movie of heinlein's book .. I mean the mowing down the bugs thing clued me in immediately, A trooper handing a kid a fully loaded super AR-15 during a recruitment presser was inspired. The thing was full of hegseth-clones.
 
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I want to make some sort of witty comparison between The Boys and the current timeline we're living in (given that The Boys is chock full of right wing parodies), but I'm all witty'ed out given the events of the past week.

Seeing the trailer just highlights how fucked we all are.
Well see, the difference between real life and this show is that Trump has never saved anybody, and Homelander was never a paedophile
 
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The book is a warning about fascism. Did you read it?
Heinlein was actually quite serious. he didn't write it as a critique of the militaristic society the humans are part of, though his depiction of the bugs was intended to be a criticism of communism. while his views did soften a bit, as evidenced by his later writing, he didn't see the human's society in the book as fascist.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starship_Troopers

Verhoeven, otoh, thought he was being too obvious in his satire, then got a bunch of criticism when the movie came out about glorifying fascism. :rolleyes:
 
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I haven't been able to find out which of the main cast isn't returning? Does anyone know offhand?
I was hoping we would find out by the end of the article, but no such luck. I scanned the trailer for people I remember, and everyone I can think of makes an appearance, with the exception of Queen Maeve, who wasn't in Season 4 anyway (and maybe she'll make a surprise cameo before the season is over.)

Questions I have about this season:
  1. Will we get any info on Barbara Findley? Last we saw of her she was
    sealed inside a room strewn with the viscera of her research staff, some of whom experimented on Homelander when he was a kid. I feel she likely would have been able to physically survive until help arrives, but the psychological toll of watching her staff being eviscerated and then being locked up in a room with their gory remains for hours/days would have done a number on her.
  2. How closely will the tv show match the comics when it comes to Homelander's arc?
  3. How closely will the tv show match the comics when it comes to Butcher's arc?

For #2, we know it can't end exactly the same due to the way the stories have differed, but
the shot of Homelander in the Oval Office
implies it could end similarly. Or maybe that's just misdirection and the TV show goes in a completely different direction.

I will say this - the way the comic book wrapped up Homelander's arc is one of the most surprising and satisfying conclusions I could have imagined, and I don't expect the TV show will reach the same level. But hopefully it's still enjoyable and fitting.

In contrast, as for #3, I was not a fan of how the comic wrapped up Butcher's arc, and this is where the TV show has an opportunity to better the comic IMHO.

Looking forward to the season - I dropped my Prime subscription a long time ago and will have to subscribe when the new season drops.
 
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