Sony reveals the first official details of the PlayStation 4
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Cool box. I'm waiting for the, "It's a console, a htpc, and an internet communication device."
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So for months I had to read that the PlayStation 4 will not be called PlayStation 4 and now it's called PlayStation 4?
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Hopefully it's as annoying to use compared to the PS1/N64 as the PS3 and xBox are now.
With any luck it will continue to require logins, subscriptions, patches, navigating clunky interfaces and long loads times.
/not bitter about current consoles
I love Forza, but fuck me, every time I get in there's spam suggesting challenges (a game thing I know, but it's enabled by the console), DLC spam, spam to get a Gold sub, a horrid UI full of blocks advertising stupid shit. Can we just play the game please?
Then the load times. Ugh. Mandatory installation to an internal SSD please.
With any luck it will continue to require logins, subscriptions, patches, navigating clunky interfaces and long loads times.
/not bitter about current consoles
I love Forza, but fuck me, every time I get in there's spam suggesting challenges (a game thing I know, but it's enabled by the console), DLC spam, spam to get a Gold sub, a horrid UI full of blocks advertising stupid shit. Can we just play the game please?
Then the load times. Ugh. Mandatory installation to an internal SSD please.
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Will be interested to read about this, will watch and look at the product, but probably will not buy. Not after all of the hacks against PSN, not after the removal of the Linux feature from the PS3. It would have to be an unprecedented integration of amazing hardware specs and pleasant software experience to make me reconsider.
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"The living room is no longer the center of the PlayStation ecosystem; the player is."
What does this even mean???
What does this even mean???
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I would rather have a console created for gamers than for game creators.
8 GB of RAM is good to hear, though; I was worried they'd cut that particular corner to control costs.
And the light bar I am totally unconvinced by. I actually like the Move, but part of what makes it work as well as it does is the one-handed nature of it. I can't see using the DS4 to throw a frisbee, or aim a gun the way I can the Move. I'm not sure, in fact, what I can comfortably do with the DS4 to take advantage of the light bar.
8 GB of RAM is good to hear, though; I was worried they'd cut that particular corner to control costs.
And the light bar I am totally unconvinced by. I actually like the Move, but part of what makes it work as well as it does is the one-handed nature of it. I can't see using the DS4 to throw a frisbee, or aim a gun the way I can the Move. I'm not sure, in fact, what I can comfortably do with the DS4 to take advantage of the light bar.
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So basically the PS4 is a pc..........in a box........ umm.....quel suprise, any one else as underwhelmed as I? As someone already said without funky achitecture it's a black xbox.....but a different shape.......and logo.
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The rumors had the PS 4 at only 4GB of ram, so the bump is nice. It will be much harder on MS since (according to rumors again) the only advantage they seemed to have was more ram.
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reimund":17n9dasq said:
What? No way, just check out his welcoming smile and stare!
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Sony's Presentation":2bexsydl said:
This is actually pretty cool. I'm hoping that we start to see a lot more things come about to really utilize the always-connected world that we're building. I just hope we can get the bandwidth to use them.
Unfortunately, I was just told (this afternoon even!) that 5mbps/896kbps is "really high-speed" Internet by the CenturyLink folks. I'm moving across town and that's still the best offering they can make, even though I'm less than a mile from the CO. I guess I'm sticking with Comcast...... :-(
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Did that one picture of the interface look an awful lot like the-interface-formerly-known-as-Metro to anyone else?
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Zoyx":21tplm55 said:
What's wrong with hard drives? I own several, and for mass storage they are cheap and effective!
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Xavin":11ak7xim said:
Yeah because the average gamer loading up Uncharted 17 really cares about or even understands what these things would mean. Did you not read the article on this very site earlier today where they talked about expectations?
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Xavin":2bshb4rx said:
No matter the specs, there's a group on the Internet ready to call anything a failure, and media waiting to pounce on any weaknesses in their desperate quest for page views.
I understand why they're reluctant to immediately announce specs. Eventually it'll get out, but hopefully after people have made up their minds about the capabilities of the device.
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Well I'm not in the business of purchasing one of those (as Final Fantasy would be the only system seller for me and their past installment didn't wow me), but I welcome their change to x86 hardware. I believe it is save to say that ports or cross developments will be easier and hence we can actually enjoy better graphics on PCs from the same games 4 years down the road!
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Yes that's all well and good.... but can it FINALLY charge my controller without having to leave the damn thing fully turned on?
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Zoyx":3nmcnqs8 said:
Two words: (1) Cost (2) Reliability
High capacity SSD is just not there yet for a consumer appliance under $5-600.
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8gb GDDR5 - unified at that - is indeed well beyond the rumours, which were "cemented" at 4. I don't know how they're going to be able to offer this at anything below $500 without taking a pretty hefty hit up front, which I don't know how Sony as a business can afford.
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I call bullshit on the 'downloading while off' thing. That's just physically impossible. Low-power download-only sleep-like mode, sure, but off surely means it does nothing at all.
That irritates me when Nintendo talk about it too. WiiConnect24 works because the Wii doesn't turn itself off completely ever. A shame it doesn't do anything useful with those electrons, but...
Anyway, we'll see what Sony end up making of this, but I am curious as to what Microsoft's response is.
That irritates me when Nintendo talk about it too. WiiConnect24 works because the Wii doesn't turn itself off completely ever. A shame it doesn't do anything useful with those electrons, but...
Anyway, we'll see what Sony end up making of this, but I am curious as to what Microsoft's response is.
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It's not just 8 gigs of RAM, it's GDDR5...
It's a very curious system. That much GDDR5 should let the graphics really go, but I'm also curious what the consequences of sharing GDDR5 as main system memory will be.
I wouldn't mind putting all GDDR5 in my desktop PC if it were possible, ha ha.
It's a very curious system. That much GDDR5 should let the graphics really go, but I'm also curious what the consequences of sharing GDDR5 as main system memory will be.
I wouldn't mind putting all GDDR5 in my desktop PC if it were possible, ha ha.
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I see a $600.00 price tag attached to this. Minimum.
Always one, always connected, low power, sleep mode updates do not make me a happy camper. Sony so far hasn't proven to me that they can handle my personal data, why would I want them always on staring at my network...
Always one, always connected, low power, sleep mode updates do not make me a happy camper. Sony so far hasn't proven to me that they can handle my personal data, why would I want them always on staring at my network...
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Control Group":249t30tq said:
Shared between the GPU and the CPU though. On the one hand, this makes it less than a modern gaming PC. On the other hand, GDDR5 for the CPU! Overall I have to agree, this is pretty shiny.
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Zoward - Re locking games to the console
This is Sony we are talking about. They know that removing the resale feature of games would be bad press, so they will wait until the console has been released for a while, and then remove that feature with a manditory patch. Just like Linux, and backwards compatibility hardware.
This is Sony we are talking about. They know that removing the resale feature of games would be bad press, so they will wait until the console has been released for a while, and then remove that feature with a manditory patch. Just like Linux, and backwards compatibility hardware.
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Instant demos are a nice touch. I'm glad they chose not to gimp the system with another paltry RAM downgrade.
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I knew it! That is why they bought Gaikai! Every PlayStation game ever made streaming to any device all the time! YES!!!
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Zoyx":mgo23ukx said:
I do too, because to hell with trying to download 20gig games...
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MatthewSleeman":3kaxac2w said:
That's the strategy used by almost every console that's ever existed.
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I don't really see the draw. Maybe I'm just missing it (it's happened before), but I don't think that's all that useful or exciting. We have had emulators running old games on all kinds of devices for over a decade now, and it's never been a big deal.
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