Mass Effect

[Determinant]

I have a question. If I dump all points in first aid on a party member does that apply when I use medi-gel?<br>Does the medi-gel get cast by the one with highest healing capabilities?<br><br>Having a healbot would allow me to focus on the cool stuff. -- View image here: http://episteme.meincmagazine.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif --

 

[Magus`]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Determinant:<BR>If I dump all points in first aid on a party member does that apply when I use medi-gel? </div></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Yes.

 

[Semi On]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Does the medi-gel get cast by the one with highest healing capabilities? </div></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>It's apparently actually tallied as a sum total of all points amongst all members.<BR><BR><BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Having a healbot would allow me to focus on the cool stuff. </div></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>I almost never use heal, to be honest. I prefer to just load up on the mods that heal over time and shields. In the beginning of the game, I used choke points because, if I got caught in a situation that killed me, I wouldn't have time to heal anyway. Once I got strong enough to face off against enemies, I just took a breather after encounters until what little health I lost recharged.

 

[Semi On]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Yeah the DLC that's available now are gamerpics!!!!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>Is that really what's triggering the message? That's annoying.

 

[Deleted member 1]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Semi On:<BR><BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Yeah the DLC that's available now are gamerpics!!!!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>Is that really what's triggering the message? That's annoying. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Don't forget the Dashboard Theme!

 

[Magus`]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Semi On:<BR>It's apparently actually tallied as a sum total of all points amongst all members. </div></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>I wouldn't be so sure of that, unless one of the devs said so.

 

[MisterOblivious]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Magus`:<BR><BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Semi On:<BR>It's apparently actually tallied as a sum total of all points amongst all members. </div></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>I wouldn't be so sure of that, unless one of the devs said so. </div></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>According to the dev Jason Attard, "First Aid and Medicine talents are combined."

 

[Drutro]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">One thing that was confusing to me though, I got the achievment for runing with Tali for most of the game, but not for Ashley. I had Ashley in my party for every possible mission. Oh well, going to start a NG+ and get hers...still debating on who to take as my second companion. Cant wait to finish it again!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>I just finished the game tonight and had the same experience. I used Ashley and Tali throughout the game and got the achievement for Tali, but not Ashley. I'm pretty sure the only time I didn't have Ashley in my group is when she was working on that bomb and the game wouldn't let me select her. I am afraid that there may have been a short period of time after I got Garrus that he was in my party instead of Ashley, but I don't <I>think</I> that happened. Either way, she was definitely in my party for the majority of the game.<BR><BR>I was bummed that I didn't get the achievement.

 

[Psion]

That's odd, as Ashley and Kaidan can easily have achievments unlocked before you hit your third major plot planet since they get a head start on Eden Prime.<BR><BR>Liara, because you get her last, is the hardest because she misses out on a bunch of Citadel quests. Not getting Ashley but getting Tali means I think you did swap in Garrus there for a while as I can think of no other reason for it to happen.

 

[Semi On]

So I have been pondering DLC, thanks to Hurricane's previous post. The pessimist in me looks back at KOTOR on the XBox and expects a single planet or station in which one will find a traider. He will sell some mods and some weapons which are rare. They will offer nice perks. But there will be nothing that extends the story. Ultimately, Specter X gear mostly makes you the grim reaper, delivering death wherever you land. They can make you deathlier. But so what? The DLC in Kotor just made you nastier with a light saber, but you had been carving people up like cornish hen for ten levels anyway. <BR><BR>I really hope they prove me wrong.

 

[Psion]

The thing is, Mass Effect DLC is absolutely perfectly suited for more sidequest missions, KOTOR really wasn't. Preferably ones which are more exciting than shooting a guy in a bunker. Get Hackett to re-record some lines, have them pop up or be found in hackable terminals, new star system with tons of fun.<BR><BR>If they felt like being really nice I wouldn't mind seeing some planets better developed than "random terrain generator, add crashed probe, building, mineral, mineral, done" though. A trading outpost or a military base, some place where you can run around and do quests like the Citadel, an actual planet that feels like a planet, rather than a tactical map from X-COM.

 

[arhra]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Semi On:<BR>So I have been pondering DLC, thanks to Hurricane's previous post. The pessimist in me looks back at KOTOR on the XBox and expects a single planet or station in which one will find a traider. He will sell some mods and some weapons which are rare. They will offer nice perks. But there will be nothing that extends the story. Ultimately, Specter X gear mostly makes you the grim reaper, delivering death wherever you land. They can make you deathlier. But so what? The DLC in Kotor just made you nastier with a light saber, but you had been carving people up like cornish hen for ten levels anyway. <BR><BR>I really hope they prove me wrong. </div></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>There was an interview in EGM recently where they touched on their DLC plans:<BR><BR><BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">EGM: What's planned for downloadable content?<BR><BR>CH: Unfortunately, we haven't announced any specifics about downloadable content, but we're working on some really cool stuff.<BR><BR>EGM: Well, is it safe to say that the downloadable content will at least be better than KOTOR's...uh... meager offering?<BR><BR>CH: Yes, it will definitely be much, much bigger and better than KOTOR's. From the beginning, we were able to plan for DLC because we knew even before the 360 came out how important the Xbox Live stuff would be. So it was built into the design of Mass Effect and built to work really well. That's part of the reason why we created this big galaxy -- it's a good place for us to place downloadable content. </div></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>So fingers crossed, we'll get something a lot less lame than KotOR's.

 

[Zaskar]

I know someone from my NWN days that can say with good authority that the DLC will be more along the lines of the NWN premium module than KotOR stupid station. I have whined like a little bitch for a month and this is all I get.

 

[Deleted member 1]

Someone mentioned this on the Bioware forums, but how about the ability to continue "playing" in the world after the main quest is done? Something like Oblivion or even Crackdown (not an RPG I know).

 

[Semi On]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">The thing is, Mass Effect DLC is absolutely perfectly suited for more sidequest missions, KOTOR really wasn't. Preferably ones which are more exciting than shooting a guy in a bunker. Get Hackett to re-record some lines, have them pop up or be found in hackable terminals, new star system with tons of fun. </div></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>It certainly should be relatively easy to add such things, but the implementation could be weird. If it's something you can access after completing the game, it really can't be too far from the main Reaper plot line. I wouldn't really buy Sheperd doing some random errand after just witnessing sovereign and the Reapers attempting to re-enter our space. Though, this certainly wouldn't be a problem if it was just something you access in the middle of the game.

 

[SofaKing]

How long of a game is Mass Effect on average?<BR><BR>I don't want a 40+ RPG... (I simply don't have time for those anymore)<BR><BR>So I'm hoping you can beat Mass Effect while completing a <I>couple</I> of side-quests in around 20 hours.

 

[Deleted member 1]

I did it in 22H with a two or three side quests (plus all the Citadel stuff) and just the man quest. It can take 40 but only if you do all the boring side quests.

 

[Hast]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Drutro:<BR>I just finished the game tonight and had the same experience. I used Ashley and Tali throughout the game and got the achievement for Tali, but not Ashley. </div></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>I just played the game again with Tali and Liara. I got the achievement for Tali (during Ilos) but not for Liara. And I did EVERY side-quest in the game.<BR><BR>It seems like if you want Liara you really have to work on it and optimize the quests. Eg I think I missed the bugging quest on the citadel because I was too renegade (I also got the renegade achievement) and didn't get the quest.<BR><BR>Something funky happened on Noveria as well:<BR>V tbg gur tnentr cnff ol enggvat bhg gur genqre jub jnagf lbh gb fzhttyr n cnpxntr. Ohg jura lbh qb guvf dhrfg lbh trg n cnff gb gur rkvg naq gura lbh pna'g qb gur bgure dhrfg gb trg bhg bs gur onfr. Gheaf bhg gung guvf znl unir orra n zvfgnxr sbe zr. (V unq gur "Gnyx gb 'thl jub jnagf lbh gb oernx vagb uvf bssvpr'" nffvtazrag yrsg va zl wbheany naq pbhyqa'g qb nalguvat nobhg vg.)<BR><BR>So if you are going for Liara achievement I think it's best to do it late in the game so you can optimize your run towards getting as many missions as possible.<BR><BR>Oh, and for some reason when I selected the "Hardcore" difficulty it was marked as "Has to be unlocked" even though I had unlocked it. But this apparently didn't matter because I got that achievement. (Just make sure you set it right away.)<BR><BR>I was also a bit worried about using Liara and Tali as they are pretty "squishy" characters. But I had no problems playing through the game on Hardcore. (This was with a NG+, I ended at level 59.)

 

[Magus`]

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<div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hast:<br>V tbg gur tnentr cnff ol enggvat bhg gur genqre jub jnagf lbh gb fzhttyr n cnpxntr. Ohg jura lbh qb guvf dhrfg lbh trg n cnff gb gur rkvg naq gura lbh pna'g qb gur bgure dhrfg gb trg bhg bs gur onfr. Gheaf bhg gung guvf znl unir orra n zvfgnxr sbe zr. (V unq gur "Gnyx gb 'thl jub jnagf lbh gb oernx vagb uvf bssvpr'" nffvtazrag yrsg va zl wbheany naq pbhyqa'g qb nalguvat nobhg vg.) </div>
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<br>Npghnyyl lbh'er zvfgnxra ba gung - lbh pna pbzr onpx yngre naq svavfu gung dhrfg, rira gubhtu lbh qvq rirelguvat ryfr - V unq gur fnzr vffhr ng svefg, ohg vg yrg zr tb ba naljnl -- View image here: http://episteme.meincmagazine.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif --<br><br><blockquote class="ip-ubbcode-quote">
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<div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hast:<br>Oh, and for some reason when I selected the "Hardcore" difficulty it was marked as "Has to be unlocked" even though I had unlocked it. But this apparently didn't matter because I got that achievement. (Just make sure you set it right away.) </div>
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<br>It says that because it DID have to be unlocked.

 

[Hast]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Magus`:<BR>Npghnyyl lbh'er zvfgnxra ba gung - lbh pna pbzr onpx yngre naq svavfu gung dhrfg, rira gubhtu lbh qvq rirelguvat ryfr - V unq gur fnzr vffhr ng svefg, ohg vg yrg zr tb ba naljnl </div></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>I just went back and tried, and I couldn't talk to him. Sheperd go into the "I should let you go" talk right away and I never get to select anything at all. So it seems like I'm screwed.<BR><BR>So anyone going for Asari Ally should try to play the game to optimize the number of quests they do.

 

[Psion]

By "every sidequest" do you mean you checked a walkthrough to ensure you had every sidequest trigger, or you just emptied out your list?<BR><BR>Because there are some you do not get unless you go to systems which are unlocked midway through the game with no fanfare.<BR><BR>Also as far as I can tell it requires both X main quest stages and Y sidequests to get achievements. So yes, if you want Asari ally you do absolutely the bare minimum on Citadel, go to Artemis Tau, and then play as normal. I got it after finishing some sidequests after the third story planet.

 

[baseline]

I got the Asari Ally after finishing Feros, Noveria, Virmire, as well as all the side quests available to me on the Citadel and in the Traverse (including the collection quests).

 

[bulletproof]

I need help and I need it bad. I am at part two of the final battle and I can't even touch him. I am an infiltrator and I've got Garrus and Wrex with me. We're all equipped with the best armor we've got and are using our best mods (tungsten bullets, my armor is the +18 to mobile aim, cool down and something else- Wrex and Garrus similarly equipped). No matter what I do I can barely put a dent in him before I'm nuked.<BR><BR>Of course I am continuing to have pains regarding squad AI also in that as I'm running around shooting him (it seems like I'm less of a target for his rockets if I'm close to him) I run past Garrus and Wrex and it's like they're just going through the motions! I hear no other gunfire except my own and yet Garrus inevitably dies before me.<BR><BR>I'm extremely frustrated- close to not finishing. Other issues I've had with team AI is coming around that corner at the turrets. I tell Wrex and Garrus to stop right before they get exposed and they ignore it and run right out and get blown up. During firefights at Ferios(?)- where Wei Fan is, they crowd around me and block me in at an exposed location. All of which I could accept as a shortcoming, but I'm feeling very frustrated.<BR><BR>So what am I doing wrong? Any ideas on what I can do differently?

 

[Semi On]

I assume you're talking about Super Saren? What weapons are you using and on what difficulty?<BR><BR>He barely touched my soldier, and I just circle strafed him with my shotgun in hand on the normal difficulty level. I found the fight absurdly easy, in fact.<BR><BR><BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">During firefights at Ferios(?)- where Wei Fan is, they crowd around me and block me in at an exposed location. </div></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>It's even cooler when they do this and fire into your back while you're trying to snipe. I get really fucking tired of having my reticle bopped off target because Wrex won't stop pelting me in the back with his shotgun...

 

[Nerfgun]

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<br><br>Is that really what's triggering the message? That's annoying. </div>
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<br><br>Fuck, that was driving me crazy. I'd see the message, hop back to the dash/marketplace, look around and find nothing, going back to ME and looking in Downloadable Content, seeing nothing...<br><br>Finally finished the game couple of nights ago, it ended too fast! I had a ton of side quests that I thought I'd be able to get to after finishing the main storyline bu credits roll and that's it. Wiped the floor with Saren, didn't even die once so I'm lacking motivation to go back and do more quests to get new weapons. -- View image here: http://episteme.meincmagazine.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif -- Might poke around a bit with an older saved game...

 

[Agreschn]

I have a friend who works for BioWare. Opinion is that the first DLC pack "is awesome and it's not close to finished yet". Think something about March was mentioned as the goal for the first bit of DLC.<BR><BR>Came with the standard disclaimer of "This is what I know right now, and it's possible a change could occur at any moment".<BR><BR>That's all I've heard and I don't really want to press for more details because I don't want to ruin the DLC for me!

 

[Rob Banzai]

There are some fights where I order my team to wait behind in a spot where I know they will not shoot me, at least until I get my shots in and pull the enemy closer.<BR><BR>The team AI isn't awful but too often they are either running in ahead of me, screwing up my plan, or standing behind me shooting me in the back.

 

[bulletproof]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Semi On:<BR>I assume you're talking about Super Saren? What weapons are you using and on what difficulty?<BR><BR>He barely touched my soldier, and I just circle strafed him with my shotgun in hand on the normal difficulty level. I found the fight absurdly easy, in fact.<BR><BR><BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">During firefights at Ferios(?)- where Wei Fan is, they crowd around me and block me in at an exposed location. </div></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>It's even cooler when they do this and fire into your back while you're trying to snipe. I get really fucking tired of having my reticle bopped off target because Wrex won't stop pelting me in the back with his shotgun... </div></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>Yeah, it's when he becomes wholly machine. Since I'm an infiltrator class- I think on "normal". Because of that I only have a pistol (and a sniper rifle but thats useless in this fight) which, if I'm the only one firing is pretty useless. I thought about a new character, but fuck, play the whole thing over JUST to get through this battle? I mean my plan is/was to finish this character and start a new one as a soldier anyways, but it's almost just the point is so frustrating- it was the same with Benezia- they are barely firing, I get frozen off the bat, then only have a pistol- WTF?<BR><BR>I guess I could deal with being shot in the back- at least they would be doing something, but they're literally just running around pointing their guns at him and not firing.

 

[Hurricane]

Banzai:<BR><BR>I am currently doing a 3rd runthru on hardcore with a sentinel, Tali and Liari. I actually threw a tantrum today trying to finish out the Luna sidequest. I'm down to the thrid base and all the freaking VI drones just swarm me. That and with those one shot kill rocket drones coupled with my special ed forces trained squad mates makes this fight mind numbingly frustrating.<BR><BR>For this third runthru I have been experimenting with alternative tactics other than my tried and true pull to a chokepoint and take them out tactics but honestly the retarded squad AI is just much more accentuated when I am actually trying to impliment some kinda tactic in combat. I mean I can kinda accept the limited commands options they give for your squad mates IF THEY ACTUALLY FOLLOWED YOUR COMMANDS!!!!! That combined with the occasional suicide pathfinding that my squadmates use is really sapping little enjoyment I am getting in combat(why do squadmates decide to take the path that runs them directly into an enemies line of fire?).

 

[Deleted member 1]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hurricane:<BR>Banzai:<BR><BR>I am currently doing a 3rd runthru on hardcore with a sentinel, Tali and Liari. I actually threw a tantrum today trying to finish out the Luna sidequest. I'm down to the thrid base and all the freaking VI drones just swarm me. That and with those one shot kill rocket drones coupled with my special ed forces trained squad mates makes this fight mind numbingly frustrating. </div></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>That part is easy, just enter the room so they see you, then retreat back to the previous room so all the drones follow you into the hallway leading to the previous room. Now just pick them off one by one while they are in the narrow hallway. Easy as pie.

 

[Hurricane]

Yeah I tried that; apparently 2 of the rocket drones were upgrades to the new Intel quad-quantum-core processor or something cause they hung back and took me out in one shot. Then I had to to go to work so I threw my controller in frustration and turned the game off.

 

[Magus`]

That mission is not that hard - just do as mentioned and let them see you, then take cover in the doorway - the drones will sit there shooting the other side of the door, totally unable to hit you.

 

[Semi On]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Yeah, it's when he becomes wholly machine. Since I'm an infiltrator class- I think on "normal". Because of that I only have a pistol (and a sniper rifle but thats useless in this fight) which, if I'm the only one firing is pretty useless. I thought about a new character, but fuck, play the whole thing over JUST to get through this battle? I mean my plan is/was to finish this character and start a new one as a soldier anyways, but it's almost just the point is so frustrating- it was the same with Benezia- they are barely firing, I get frozen off the bat, then only have a pistol- WTF? </div></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>You CAN use any weapon. You just take a hit to aim and damage I think. Try using the Specter X shotgun at point blank range where your poor aim isn't as important.

 

[Cool Modine]

It's not that hard to dodge the rockets, either. They're relatively slow-moving, so just pay attention to when they fire at you and strafe out of the way.<BR><BR>Also, I had no trouble using mostly pistol to beat Saren at the end as a Vanguard. Mind you, my pistol was maxed out, so I was a pretty unstoppable killing machine.

 

[HappyBunny]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PerfectCr:<BR>I loved KOTOR. While Mass Effect had a great story, it was a little to close to KOTOR for my liking.<BR><BR><B>ME / KOTOR</B><BR>Spectre / Jedi<BR>council / Jedi Council<BR>Geth / Sith<BR>Biotics / Force<BR>Saren / Darth Malak<BR>Kaiden / Carth (same voice too)<BR>Sovereign / Star Forge<BR><BR>I could probably find more. Now if you're going to copy a game, KOTOR is the one. <BR> </div></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>I suppose there is a little bit of similarity in the story line (ancient technology coming back, turning people to evil). But most of the stuff you listed there could be equated to things in pretty much any RPG, or really any type of hero story. The stories aren't really any more similar than I'd expect from stories in a similar genre.

 

[Hurricane]

Magus:<BR><BR>Strangely enough most of the drones actually followed me into the first room.<BR><BR>It was partly my fault; my radar only showed one drone left so I decided to gun ho it and attack it dead on. Then I realised there were actually 2 drones left. I took out one and was just about to blow the other one when Shepard decided he'd rather take cover on the wall rather than move about so I couldn't dodge the one rocket that drone flung at me. Funny thing was that as I died my special ed forces squadmates took it out. So I would have actually been able to kill all the drones had the stupid AI and controls not defeat me.

 

[Magus`]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hurricane:<BR>Strangely enough most of the drones actually followed me into the first room. </div></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>First room? Are you going all the way through the hallway back-tracking?<BR><BR>I've never had the drones come anywhere near me when I stop at the door from hallway -> drone room and take cover behind the wall. (usually on the right)

 

[Hurricane]

Well this is exactly what happened to me.<BR><BR>I took out the other 2 bases so I walk into the third base with the gas released and the force fields up. As soon as I opene the door to the drone room and take out the force field it triggers the drone to come after me. Almost all of them come and swarm me in that space in front of the door.<BR><BR>I immediately backtracked into the first room with the 2 lockers in it and about half of them came and followed me into the room. Defnitely an "oh shit!!!" moment cause like you stated they normally just stand on the doorway but they defnitely followed me. It actually worked out for me cause I was able to take them out. I went back into the hallway then the remaining(or so I thought) drones came into the hallway and I took them out. So I was about to do my victory dance when I look at my radar and see one red triangle. This was my one blunder; cause by this time all of my power recharged and I figured, "it's just one drone, I should be able to take it out easily." So I rushed into the room and lo and behold I'm staring at TWO rocket drones parked on the right side of that pillar behind a crate. That was definitely an "oh shit !!!!" moment so I kick into gear and throw everything I had at them. I take out one and the other is down to about 1/4 health. I am circling the drones but in the tight space I bump up against the wall and Shepard automatically hugs it. Absolutely the worst time to do this cause just then the drone lets off a rocket at point blank range and BOOM. Dead. As the screen is circling around my contorted body I see the final drone pop.

 

[English_C6H^]

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<div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PerfectCr:<br>I loved KOTOR. While Mass Effect had a great story, it was a little to close to KOTOR for my liking.<br><br><b>ME / KOTOR / Oblivion</b><br>Spectre / Jedi / Blades<br>council / Jedi Council / Council<br>Geth / Sith / Dark Brotherhood?<br>Biotics / Force / Magic<br>Saren / Darth Malak / Major evil Demon(forget the name)<br>Kaiden / Carth (same voice too) / The Fan? (j/k)<br>Sovereign / Star Forge / Oblivion Gates<br><br>Now if you're going to copy a game, KOTOR is the one. <br> </div>
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<br><br><br>To go off of what HappyBunny said. Obviously there was some similarities in the storylines, but how much is genre-based (as they are both space RPG's) and how much is cribbing off of old notes? ehh -- View image here: http://episteme.meincmagazine.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif -- , as you said if you're going to copy a game... KOTOR's not a bad one to cheat from.

 

[Psion]

I can shorten that ME / KOTOR comparison down pretty fast:<BR><BR><BR><B>ME / KOTOR</B><BR>Bioware / Bioware<BR><BR>Congratulations, you win the internet! Same genre game from the same developer shares similarities! Stop the damn presses.