The first Windows Phone with on-screen buttons enters the battle for the low end.
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This makes Windows Phone 8.1 devices cheaper than ever before. There's the obvious cost-savings from not having to include the buttons, but the advantages run deeper than that: manufacturers no longer have to customize their hardware for Windows Phone. With both Android and Windows Phone 8.1 supporting on-screen buttons, hardware companies can now build a single hardware model and install either of the operating systems onto it.
[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=27084125#p27084125:2fgsncaf said:Hattori HANZo[/url]":2fgsncaf]No ambient light sensor? How much could this have possibly saved?
Well yes, but I question that Microsoft is in a position on the handset market that would make this a viable option to differentiate its handsets. If your market share is rather low in comparison and your platform is less attractive because of that, crippling cheap handsets by leaving in real annoyances that could be fixed for another 50ct is not going to attract consciously deciding customers and not going to retain any.[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=27084135#p27084135:26lflhk9 said:uhuznaa[/url]":26lflhk9][url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=27084125#p27084125:26lflhk9 said:Hattori HANZo[/url]":26lflhk9]No ambient light sensor? How much could this have possibly saved?
Such things rarely are about saving a few cent but about differentiating your product lines and giving people a reason to spend more on better models.
I want to feel that way, but I've accidentally quit too many apps from slightly missing the spacebar. Either give me a hardware home button, or some gesture that can't be accidentally triggered.[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=27084073#p27084073:9bak1e9k said:lonewolfe2015[/url]":9bak1e9k]Physical buttons and I have grown apart, much like physical keyboards and I did awhile back.
[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=27084185#p27084185:2rj02g3i said:BonzaiThePenguin[/url]":2rj02g3i]I want to feel that way, but I've accidentally quit too many apps from slightly missing the spacebar. Either give me a hardware home button, or some gesture that can't be accidentally triggered.[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=27084073#p27084073:2rj02g3i said:lonewolfe2015[/url]":2rj02g3i]Physical buttons and I have grown apart, much like physical keyboards and I did awhile back.
Edit: or maybe don't put the home button under the most-used keyboard button.
Screen size, core count, clock speed, battery capacity are all in the 630's favour. FFC, NFC, flash and (maybe) hardware buttons are in the 620's favour.[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=27084333#p27084333:1wkl8a68 said:BasP[/url]":1wkl8a68]I don't get why none of the reviews mention that nothing about the 630 improves on the 620:
I don't think the characterization of the 620 as "much better" is really accurate, and the cost of the two is more or less the same, possibly even in the 630's favour (depending on which colour you go for). The 630 also has a dual SIM option, and the 635 variant which adds LTE.What am I missing? Why does nobody touch upon this in the reviews?
I say go for the S4 for that kind of price, last I checked secondhand price is still hovering at 10000 ฿.[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=27084089#p27084089:3podbo0f said:linesma[/url]":3podbo0f]Nice review. I have seen the 630 available here in Thailand from the carrier AIS for 4900 Baht (around $150). Currently they only have the single sim model, but you can get the dual sim from a third party vendor. I don't know if it is just me, but I have had nothing but problems with the dual sim variety phones. They seem to interfere with each other, especially when you are using sims from 2 different carriers. So it seems that most people are purchasing the single sim model.
Back on track, sorry, I was looking at purchasing this phone for my wife, but after reading your review, I think I will pass. The lack of RAM combined with the lack of an ambient light sensor are very off-putting. For a little more, 6500 Baht (around $210), I can get her a reconditioned Galaxy S4. Thanks for the information!
The iPhone 5c costs about three times the Lumia 630 or Moto E. It's not operating in the same market. It's not even close to operating in the same market.[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=27084383#p27084383:2z4d4iex said:got2bereal[/url]":2z4d4iex]The iPhone 5C proves that nobody wants to buy a lower tiered new model.
[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=27084389#p27084389:1qm1ww5h said:DrPizza[/url]":1qm1ww5h]The iPhone 5c costs about three times the Lumia 630 or Moto E. It's not operating in the same market. It's not even close to operating in the same market.[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=27084383#p27084383:1qm1ww5h said:got2bereal[/url]":1qm1ww5h]The iPhone 5C proves that nobody wants to buy a lower tiered new model.
I think that something like the 1GB RAM/4GB storage configuration of the Moto E is a better decision.
[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=27084397#p27084397:27hchf8d said:ev9_tarantula[/url]":27hchf8d][url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=27084389#p27084389:27hchf8d said:DrPizza[/url]":27hchf8d]The iPhone 5c costs about three times the Lumia 630 or Moto E. It's not operating in the same market. It's not even close to operating in the same market.[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=27084383#p27084383:27hchf8d said:got2bereal[/url]":27hchf8d]The iPhone 5C proves that nobody wants to buy a lower tiered new model.
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He's completely wrong.
In the UK Motorola went from essentially nothing to 6% marketshare in a quarter off the back of the Moto G.
The 5C merely proves that Apple's view of what constitutes low-price is a million miles away from everyone else.
[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=27084383#p27084383:3vbq0x5r said:got2bereal[/url]":3vbq0x5r]The iPhone 5C proves that nobody wants to buy a lower tiered new model.
The top selling phones for Android includes refurb flagship phones. Most folks either buy new flagship phones or refurb last year's flag ship phones. Rolling out cheaper and lower spec phones are not going to sell well because there is a good supply of last year's flagship phones on discount and most of the time free on contract. I think Nokia should do the same, concentrate on high end phones. Eventually people are willing to take a risk going to WP8.1 if there is a free on contract last year's high end model.
[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=27084467#p27084467:1srnpc04 said:johncuyle[/url]":1srnpc04]Does lack of an ambient light sensor also mean that the screen doesn't turn off when you hold it up next to your head to talk on it? Auto brightness isn't a big deal, but hanging up because the on screen buttons are active while the phone is against your head is a problem. Personally, I'd rather they take cost out of the camera than RAM or sensors.
[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=27084477#p27084477:d1olf93q said:Speedfister[/url]":d1olf93q][url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=27084467#p27084467:d1olf93q said:johncuyle[/url]":d1olf93q]Does lack of an ambient light sensor also mean that the screen doesn't turn off when you hold it up next to your head to talk on it? Auto brightness isn't a big deal, but hanging up because the on screen buttons are active while the phone is against your head is a problem. Personally, I'd rather they take cost out of the camera than RAM or sensors.
I believe it's a proximity sensor that takes care of that, not the ambient light sensor.
[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=27084491#p27084491:11cr67me said:Zinger1[/url]":11cr67me]I think a Blackberry Z3 would be a far better purchase, front facing camera, 1.5GB Ram, ambient light sensor, bigger battery, more apps (over 200k in the Amazon app store alone not even counting the over 50k in the BB app world). About $190.
http://www.gsmarena.com/blackberry_z3-6163.php
[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=27084177#p27084177:3h376xfj said:Hattori HANZo[/url]":3h376xfj]... If your market share is rather low in comparison and your platform is less attractive because of that...[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=27084135#p27084135:3h376xfj said:uhuznaa[/url]":3h376xfj][url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=27084125#p27084125:3h376xfj said:Hattori HANZo[/url]":3h376xfj]No ambient light sensor? How much could this have possibly saved?
Such things rarely are about saving a few cent but about differentiating your product lines and giving people a reason to spend more on better models.
[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=27084281#p27084281:jtw3uwv0 said:dizdizzie[/url]":jtw3uwv0]Lack of flash and ambient light sensor are big deal for me. I'm looking for cheap Windows 8.1 phone, but I don't think it will be Lumia 630![]()
I would buy a Captain Bamboo plush in a heartbeat.[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=27084525#p27084525:2q8h2szi said:BobsYourUncleBob[/url]":2q8h2szi]In the photo taken to display indoor camera capabilities, I fully expected to be stricken with awe by the majesty of a Winged Panda in full flight.
Probably a fair bit, since an ambient light sensor requires a clear section in the otherwise black area of the glass.[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=27084125#p27084125:1krzobhh said:Hattori HANZo[/url]":1krzobhh]No ambient light sensor? How much could this have possibly saved?
Does windows phone have a quick way to adjust the brightness? On an iPhone you can get to it with a system wide screen edge gesture.For something you use in settings as diverse as a phone, this is sure to annoy users heavily.