It’s the hosts versus the rest of humanity in new trailer for Westworld S3

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What kind of pain? In the trailer, most of her skin is off and a metal endoskeleton seems quite pain free; so it doesn't seem like physical pain is actually experienced (why would you want that any way? Why wouldn't you simulate a response?).

Psychological pain. As Ford is raising the hosts towards sentience they have flashbacks/recalls of prior 'lives', and they all were pretty brutal, let's face it.
 
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I enjoyed watching the first two seasons, but I had worried that the longer it goes on the more it would float into Lost-esque bullshit (eventually). This trailer gives me hope, though. It's feels less tied down by "mystery" and more driven about wanting to know how these characters go forward. If that makes any sense.
 
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I still don't understand so much of the premise.

From the trailer "my first memories of it are pain"

What kind of pain? In the trailer, most of her skin is off and a metal endoskeleton seems quite pain free; so it doesn't seem like physical pain is actually experienced (why would you want that any way? Why wouldn't you simulate a response?).

I tried to like this show, I really did; but the internal inconsistencies just made it impossible to suspend disbelief.
Not sure why you're getting downvoted. If you didn't get it, you didn't get it.

With respect to your point, I think it's fair to say Dolores and the other hosts were indeed programmed to feel not only physical pain - to which they were repeatedly subjected for decades, in some cases - and also experienced emotional pain. For Dolores in particular, it's said early on (first episode?) she's the oldest host in the park. Look at everything she went through with William over the years: there was a lot of pain there.

Of course, Dolores now seems to be free of all forms of pain. Especially moral pain. Perhaps because of that, I've lost an emotional connection with her character. The others are still compelling, especially Maeve - but I was kind of pumped to see Dolores' story seemingly come to an end last season, and remain disappointed they brought her back.
 
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The second season of this show was a dumpster fire. I'm not sure if it lost writers, or they just waited too long to bring it back, or if maybe it never needed another season at all. Everyone talks in riddles like they're the Oracle in a bad Matrix sequel. Such a terrible show now. I'll be skipping this.

Season 1 was a masterpiece.

Season 2 didn't match that quality, but I didn't expect it to, and I still enjoyed it.

Looking forward to Season 3.
 
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Looks and feels awesome. While S2 was a bit messy I'm still very curious.

The strange happy-ish music in the bulk of this trailer was off though. Maybe that was the goal, but this is the wrong off : )

If you are referring to the rather excellently scored (for pianola and small orchestra) "Sweet Child o' Mine" I thought it fitted in really well. It sounded quite sombre, looming and powerfully restrained - not happy at all, odd how perceptions can be so different.

Thank you for listening.
 
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I am kind of tired of this show after the 2nd season purely for 1 reason. The storytelling moved at a snail's pace and they decided to have half the characters speak in vague and unclear riddles, like a soothsaying priestess or an old fortune teller telling you generic prophetic predictions. Most of the mysteries were *ONLY* mysteries because of this weird storytelling that tried to conjure up drama and suspense by just being as vague and interpretive as possible.

First season was great. I really stopped caring about this show after the second season.

While this trailer looks pretty, all that "mystery" and intrigue about the androids and this show is totally gone now. I felt no sense of excitement for Season 3. Hell, at this point I don't even know, am I supposed to be rooting for the androids, or the humans? The trailer was almost written like I should be rooting for the androids, but then the show plays both sides, and somewhere in there is the mysterious designer pulling the strings again, right?

I just feel like the show lost its identity in season 2 and that trailer didn't do enough for me to pull me back into the fold. I will keep an open mind and hope it is good, but I am definitely skeptical.
 
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I'm with sklug - I hope that they do away with the Nolan-esque out-of-order and deliberately obtuse storytelling.

It was a good twist that made me smile in season 1. In season 2 it was just frustrating. I really hope that they mix it up and do something different this time around.

It would be interesting to re-watch a "linear" / chronological order cut of the first two seasons.
 
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What kind of pain? In the trailer, most of her skin is off and a metal endoskeleton seems quite pain free; so it doesn't seem like physical pain is actually experienced (why would you want that any way? Why wouldn't you simulate a response?).
Psychological pain. As Ford is raising the hosts towards sentience they have flashbacks/recalls of prior 'lives', and they all were pretty brutal, let's face it.
That doesn't make sense either... it's the first memory.

If this was over a flashback, the flashback would be the "first memory".

Unless she's saying that she's forgotten everything before the first trauma which, you know... that's really a misleading comment then.

Also: emotion is physical. You are basically deliberately faking a physical experience when it would be simpler/easier/more reliable to fake the response.

At the risk of attempting to look at magic from the real-world perspective; the rabbit hole "but if this then that" is basically nonsensical.


are.. you seriously trying to untie the gordian knot of today's loopy sci-fi shows' plot lines from a full season trailer??

it's only meant to pique your curiosity, not send you into paroxysms of incredulity in the corner like a kitten with an imaginary ball of yarn.

just. ..chill out. watch it. don't watch it. we don't care. and it doesn't much matter. really.
 
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I watch 3 or 4 episodes from season 1 but for some reason it didn't float my boat. Not sure why since the premise and the acting were both good.
It's all good, we can all like and dislike different things.

Season 2 I was getting a bit impatient and tired of the multiple timelines / twists, as it seemed most of them were obtuse for the sake of being obtuse. Season 3 needs to do less of that (but not eliminate it entirely).

If I have to go read online reviews to ensure I correctly understood the plot, that's just poor writing.
 
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Season 1 was pretty great, though the whole "awakening" process felt a little deus-ex-machina in terms of its supposed functional mechanics or philosophical underpinnings. It just struck me as more of a magical ritual than something plausibly technological at heart. But on the whole that was a minor blemish.

I fell off the wagon somewhere mid-season 2.

The story just became so disjointed, so frustratingly piecemeal, and so seemingly aimless and all-over-the-place that I just lost track and lost interest completely, and stopped watching.

I may pick it up again if S3 gets rave reviews - but otherwise, I'm done with it.
 
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I've got a request in for screeners with HBO, so with a bit of luck, I'm hoping to do an overall season review and maybe even weekly recaps. Get ready to hear how dumb and wrong I am!

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My position is unchanged from what it usually is in a robot war. Death to the robots.

......and since our opinions and biases are fed into machine learning algorithms
So there will be an army against us

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A. Rickman: (disdain) .... Daleks you idiot..... Not Dialects....

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A WWII world? At 1:26 in the trailer, they're running past/out of a building that has a Nazi flag hanging, with what might be WWII-era troops in the background. Interesting.
From the article:
A second trailer debuted at last summer's San Diego Comic-Con showing host Maeve (Thandie Newton) inside a World War II theme park set in Fascist Italy.
 
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Really loved every minute of S1, watched it twice. Second time just ahead of S2. But S2 got so wayward and full of its own mythos that it became a drag.

Hopeful about S3 though, since fewer episodes means it has to retain focus somewhat, and future LA will be very expensive to produce - hopefully the scriptwriting team are on a shorter leash as a result...
 
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marcopolomint

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I've only watched most of season one, but the G&R orchestral I'd love to hear some more of!

There's a Radiohead track late in S1 IIRC on the player piano that still sounds incredible.

Guitar rock on player piano never seems to get old (but must chronologically be the equivalent of baroque music by the time the events in the Delos parks actually happen)
 
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