The death gap between Democrats and Republicans was larger in counties with lower vaccination rates.
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The remaining Koch brothers would speak differently--or would spend differently. Start local to build larger. That was their milieuCounties have zero impact on federal elections, the closest thing would be house districts but so many seats change hands in any given election that a given seat is generally meaningless (unlike a Senate seat which is often critical given how nearly evenly it's been split in recent history but Senate seats are determined state wide).
Archer reference? If so, +1000000
Could also be a Putin agent?It should surprise nobody that madferret9 is also a transphobe and fossil industry shill.
I'm not sure if this will ever happen, but it would be pretty fascinating to someday see any potential links between a partisan gap in excess deaths and a swing state going blue in any given election. I'm not sure if the data to correlate this exists, or if the effect is strong enough in any one place to actually manifest, but it would be a fantastic (if seemingly obvious) lesson in why policies that actively kill off your own voter base might be a bad idea.
Considering how narrow the margin of victory can be in some districts, it may not flip a state blue, but it may well flip individual districts, and that can make quite a difference in the House.Without minimizing the sheer number of deaths (that's like half the population of the Montreal island), its still a fraction of a percent of voters, so I'd say unlikely to swing a State one way or another... until we have a pandemic caused by a more deadly virus.
They believe it. One guy I know put the spin on it of "god damn vaxxers, taking a dad away from his family because of his beliefs."What I find amazing is how many of these stories came out about anti-vaxxer finding themselves dying in intensive care, and still the cohort of anti-vaxxers don't believe it.
Its called darwinism, or evolution ^^I'm not sure if this will ever happen, but it would be pretty fascinating to someday see any potential links between a partisan gap in excess deaths and a swing state going blue in any given election. I'm not sure if the data to correlate this exists, or if the effect is strong enough in any one place to actually manifest, but it would be a fantastic (if seemingly obvious) lesson in why policies that actively kill off your own voter base might be a bad idea.
If there was a more lethal virus, behaviour would change. Take something as infectious as original Covid and as lethal as Ebola.155 million people voted in the 2020 election. Per the article, 1.1 million people have died from COVID in the USA (not all voters).
Without minimizing the sheer number of deaths (that's like half the population of the Montreal island), its still a fraction of a percent of voters, so I'd say unlikely to swing a State one way or another... until we have a pandemic caused by a more deadly virus.
It’s the idiotic logic.The anti-vax movement is one of those Goldilocks conspiracy theories that unites the extremes of both ends of the political spectrum, for some time now. It would be fascinating if it was not so disheartening.
Can you explain for people not in the USA (and for everyone under 60)?It may be worse than this. In southeast Ohio and Appalachia in general, there are lots of registered Democrats who haven't voted for a Democrat in decades (to give you a hint why, they haven't voted for a Democrat since 1968 specifically).
Remember that you don’t notice the ones who move on with better information. They will do it quietly. The ones digging in their heels will do it loudly and noticeable.If there's one thing I've learned about these people from living 50+ years in the dead (no pun intended) center of deep red, they cannot abide being wrong. If they are proven wrong, instead of admitting it and moving on with better information, they will dig their heels in and double down on being wrong. It's very much a pride thing. They have invested so much (pride, emotion, etc.) in their decision/action that there is no way that pride will let them admit being wrong. It's just too embarrassing. They would rather die (no pun intended) than admit they were duped and/or are wrong about something, especially something like this in which they are so emotionally vested.
Can you explain that. I thought voting in the USA was secret, so you can register any way you like, then walk into a polling station and vote for whoever you want to vote for? And nobody would know?Crossover voting in some states like New Hampshire is very easy, you can be registered an independent until primary day, choose a party when you walk in, pick up the appropriate ballot, vote, and there is a station to change your alliance back to independent after you vote. Some parties want that changed, so it might be different by the next election.
Prior to the 60’s, Democrats were the conservative party. As the civil rights movement got under way, southern Democrats split with northern ones, and the Republican Party steered right to snatch the rural white American vote up. Typically referred to as the “Southern Strategy”.Can you explain for people not in the USA (and for everyone under 60)?
Just saying: The BBC took a published list of “dead” voters, checked the oldest 33 on the list, and in every single case found a voter who was well and alive, but also someone with the same name and born in the same week elsewhere who had died.200 dead people maybe vote and republicans say that making it harder for every single american to vote is the answer.
200 dead kids killed by guns and republicans say nothing can be done.
Lets remember that the worst crime imaginable to republicans isn't cops blowing out the brains of an innocent kid, but instead the mere charging and trial of a rapist, fraud, thief, traitor, and pedo.
A primary election is where voters can choose the person (of their party) to be on the ballot of the general election. Those votes are usually only cast by the people registered to that party.Can you explain that. I thought voting in the USA was secret, so you can register any way you like, then walk into a polling station and vote for whoever you want to vote for? And nobody would know?
Please, for the love of Zod add a '/s' to that, because there are a frightening number of utter imbeciles who will actually believe that.There's only one rational explanation - Fauci went to Wuhan to engineer a virus that would preferentially kill Republicans!
Yeah, I'm feeling the schadenfreude too, but we're only as strong as our weakest links. I strongly favor efforts to increase vaccination among the hesitant/resistant. I just don't have a clue how to do that.
Because we're talking about the Republican party?Why bring racism into this?
Both US parties used to both be more umbrella in before the 1960s. Back then the Southern Democrats were racists white supremacist, but the Northern Democrats more egalitarian. The Democrat party decided to ignore the southern voters at some point in the 60s to push for civil rights. The Republican party then decided to appeal to these Southern Democrats, and pick them up for an easy win. Those racists ended up controlling the entire Republican party in later decades.Can you explain for people not in the USA (and for everyone under 60)?
Failure to find fraud by the same people accused of being part of the problem is not exactly a ringing endorsement for that position.
I first became aware of electronic voting cyber security issues in an upper level CS course in the late '90s. I was shocked at the differences in how the same companies who designed banking equipment failed to build in similar and adequate security features into their voting systems - the stated reason being that it wasn't in the requirements.
Ever since, I've been following along whenever technical details come to light about current voting systems. From a cybersecurity perspective, the situation is pretty bad. Over and over, I've seen cases where election official spout assurances about security where there are subsequent investigations showing the same systems are susceptible to well-known vulnerabilities. Often, these officials don't seem to even understand what they are saying. Recent elections where officials claim that the machines are not connected to the internet since they don't have a web browser are particularly grating, since their procedures cover installing updates and using the network to upload their data to the state computers using the public IP infrastructure.
Given that in many locales a single political entity effectively controls access to and deployment of the the systems, compiling results, and investigating any complaints, it would be quite easy to skew the results with a small number of individuals. Whether or not people are prosecuted, the opportunities exist. Similarly, weak security opens an avenue for external parties to manipulate. Given the propensity of foreign actors to mess with even high-security DoD and other national security systems, I find the idea that they would not interfere with our democratic processes in such a soft target to be simply un-credible.
A primary election is where voters can choose the person (of their party) to be on the ballot of the general election. Those votes are usually only cast by the people registered to that party.
This makes sense because if they allowed anybody to vote for a primary, an opposing party could deliberately hijack it by voting in a weaker candidate.
Not sure it only happens due to shenanigans. Pretty sure when (was it Alabama?) turned blue because the Republicans ran a pedophile candidate, it was the honest to god choice of the party.Open primaries are actually quite common; you don't have to be registered with the party, but you are limited in voting for only one party; you can't double-dip and vote for a candidate in each party.
Shenanigans like voting in a loser during the primaries is definitely a thing. It's quite possible to have a lunatic win in the primaries (which favor that sort of thing thanks to low turnout) and get trounced in the general election as even their own party can't bring themselves to vote for them.
Not sure it only happens due to shenanigans. Pretty sure when (was it Alabama?) turned blue because the Republicans ran a pedophile candidate, it was the honest to god choice of the party.
Do you defend Nazi SS officers too for merely being victims of propaganda?Don't blame the victims, place the blame where it belongs on the anti-vax scumbags and those funding that messaging.
That's great, seeing as how Republicans think slavery was actually beneficial to the slaves!I'm sorry, but if someone is willing to disregard their own health, in fact their own life, solely to agree with the prescribed political agenda, then that person is literally, willingly, enslaved.
Also, a lot(?) of hippies fell really easily into supporting fascism. The ones I knew had warning signs all along but still who would ever expect thatThey're still there, but it's a weird universe now. People who were not fully committed to antivax on the left saw what was happening on the right and very quietly left the movement. People who were fully committed have turned into this weird sounds-like-a-joke hybrid. Your neo-Nazi yoga instructors, your white nationalist afro-cuban drum circle groups. The anti-vax left isn't even the same as it once was, it's even more over-the-top cray cray than ever before.
The reason they can't take being wrong, IMO, is they have made their political party a core aspect of who they are as a person. If they weren't Republicans then who would they be?If there's one thing I've learned about these people from living 50+ years in the dead (no pun intended) center of deep red, they cannot abide being wrong. If they are proven wrong, instead of admitting it and moving on with better information, they will dig their heels in and double down on being wrong. It's very much a pride thing. They have invested so much (pride, emotion, etc.) in their decision/action that there is no way that pride will let them admit being wrong. It's just too embarrassing. They would rather die (no pun intended) than admit they were duped and/or are wrong about something, especially something like this in which they are so emotionally vested.
Not to mention that what started as the Southern Strategy has matured to the point that most low income US people identify with the right now.It may be worse than this. In southeast Ohio and Appalachia in general, there are lots of registered Democrats who haven't voted for a Democrat in decades (to give you a hint why, they haven't voted for a Democrat since 1968 specifically). Similarly in Florida, older voters may retain party affiliation from decades gone by. You register your political party once, and it stays the same unless you specifically go through the effort of changing it.
If you've ever wondered in polls who those x% of Democrats are who think Trump is the bee's knees, it's not all people messing with pollsters. Some of it is Dixiecrats who refuse to associate with the same party that ended slavery.
So if you use registration data, you'll get some Republicans mixed with your Democrats. Not so much the other way around.
But you're not gonna explain it or anything, obviouslyYou wouldn't make that joke if you considered how party affiliation actually works in the South...
People are trying to be helpful to you, and you're just sealionining them. Go troll on X social or whatever instead of hereSure. But I don't understand the point of making the comparison. The death rate is going to be significantly impacted by things like immigration, general health, access to healthcare and housing affordability/availability for seniors. That is a lot to correct for; comparing the raw numbers doesn't seem useful without correcting for factors like these.
Oh but facts do matter. Watch:But what about the fact that none of these facts matter? As a matter of fact id like to point out that facts dont exist, and that this is just part of the globalists agenda to insert talking point here