When they're being eaten, bean plants release chemicals that draw in parasitic wasps.
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“There are other papers that show if you knock out all immune signaling, the caterpillars grow twice as big—they get enormous,” Steinbrenner says. This, he suggests, indicates the immune system had other pathways to deter herbivores like the caterpillars.
That's the dude who brings gazpacho to the neighborhood potluck.in other news, tomato seeds pass through the most hostile acidic process to then make it into fecal dump. Worker at sewer plant tells me of dozens of tomato plants growing there. I don't think I would eat them though...
Actually, grafted root systems are a myth, promoted mainly by Suzanne Simard, with recent criticisms based on lack of actual evidence and a good dollop of anthropomorphism. She's done good work on forest ecology, but this particular claim is off the rails.We definitely don't give plants the respect they deserve. Never forget that you can cut a tree down completely and the stump can survive for something like up to ten years, because other nearby trees will share vital nutrients via their root systems.
What does this mean, boys and girls? It means that even trees have better social support systems/healthcare than the average American.
Some trees seem to signal each other in other ways as well. Here's an interesting little digression into the subject of Crown Shyness.We definitely don't give plants the respect they deserve. Never forget that you can cut a tree down completely and the stump can survive for something like up to ten years, because other nearby trees will share vital nutrients via their root systems.
I won't proclaim to be a biologist, because I most definitely am not, but from my own nerding out, recently watching a bunch of mycology documentaries, it's not so much that the root systems themselves are grafted or physically connected, but that an entire ecosystem of fungal roots and what-not share nutrients from root system to root system in a rather impressive display of symbiosis.Actually, grafted root systems are a myth, promoted mainly by Suzanne Simard, with recent criticisms based on lack of actual evidence and a good dollop of anthropomorphism. She's done good work on forest ecology, but this particular claim is off the rails.
I think that's saying that the In11-less beans still have some defences against the caterpillars, because if you knock out all of the immune defences the caterpillars get even bigger.I didn't understand how ginormous caterpillars indicate deterrence by the plant. They get too heavy to stay upright on a leaf maybe? It actually seems the opposite; 'fat pillars are not-deterred 'pillars. Misprint?
I didn't understand how ginormous caterpillars indicate deterrence by the plant. They get too heavy to stay upright on a leaf maybe? It actually seems the opposite; 'fat pillars are not-deterred 'pillars. Misprint?
I'm familiar with the concept, it's just that there isn't any actual evidence supporting it.I won't proclaim to be a biologist, because I most definitely am not, but from my own nerding out, recently watching a bunch of mycology documentaries, it's not so much that the root systems themselves are grafted or physically connected, but that an entire ecosystem of fungal roots and what-not share nutrients from root system to root system in a rather impressive display of symbiosis.
My expertise is fire life safety, so YMMV in the above, but it certainly made sense to me (and was pretty cool to learn, to boot)
We definitely don't give plants the respect they deserve. Never forget that you can cut a tree down completely and the stump can survive for something like up to ten years, because other nearby trees will share vital nutrients via their root systems.
What does this mean, boys and girls? It means that even trees have better social support systems/healthcare than the average American.
What about this?I'm familiar with the concept, it's just that there isn't any actual evidence supporting it.
Suckering is pretty common. Even American Chestnuts laid low by blight over a century ago still send up suckers; they eventually succumb to the blight themselves after a few years, but they're the basis for several efforts hoping for a somatic mutation with resistance. Same is true for many other trees.There are trees that can grow back from a stump.
https://fortcollinstreecare.com/can-trees-grow-back-from-stumps/
However in the wild it is extremely rare.
I mean, aren't there some coffee beans that are brewed specifically after certain primates eat and then pass them?in other news, tomato seeds pass through the most hostile acidic process to then make it into fecal dump. Worker at sewer plant tells me of dozens of tomato plants growing there. I don't think I would eat them though...
Some parasitic wasps have parasites of their own: hyperparasites / meta parasites. I don't know anything other than they exist. Further reading: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HyperparasiteSo ultimately this would allow us to introduce wasps to eat the caterpillars. Would we then need to introduce something to eat the wasps? And then...
I tried that once. Can you believe it was cold? I called over the chef and told him to take it away and bring it back hot.That's the dude who brings gazpacho to the neighborhood potluck.
I can't decide which is more amazing, the ability of the plants to detect being eaten by caterpillars and summon wasps to eat them, or the patience of the researchers to spend several years setting up and then running this experiment. Great article!
Well, eat the fruits, not the leafs.TL;DR - plants don't want to be eaten.
You've got a bit of a consonant on your forehead there, Rimmer.I tried that once. Can you believe it was cold? I called over the chef and told him to take it away and bring it back hot.
You've got a bit of a consonant on your forehead there, Rimmer.
On topic: So time bore out that beans/wasps decided upon the In11 triggered signal. What changes to the wasps were necessary to be sensitive to this type of signal? Is this a common airborne signal molecule in the plant/hymenoptera relay network?
For sure, fungal networks exist and exchange nutrients with trees. I think the controversy is whether there is a web of networks that acts to support species within a forest and enables exchange between neighbor trees in a kind of altruistic behavior (talking trees). The answer is not cut and dried. Forest ecosystems are complicated exchanges of nutrients, water and access to sunlight. Underground is more complicated than above ground. Suzanne Simards work showed that carbon can be exchanged between species - however this isn’t necessarily a coordinated sharing activity. Trees release carbon into soil, others pick it up - was there communication? Maybe. But not settled yet. Is there some mutualism in the forest? For sure. Is it so ubiquitous to suggest a common interface between trees that help to share out nutrients? Seems an unlikely extrapolation.
Which ones? There are four or five varieties of what could be called "pinks" I can think of. Sedonas, o'odhams, pinquitos...If you haven’t tried a range of beans you are missing out on some amazing flavors - rancho Gordo is the best place to get ahold of quality heirloom beans in the US. I’m partials to the pinks myself.
And yet I have seen stumps which have completely sealed over on the top. More studies needed.Actually, grafted root systems are a myth, promoted mainly by Suzanne Simard, with recent criticisms based on lack of actual evidence and a good dollop of anthropomorphism. She's done good work on forest ecology, but this particular claim is off the rails.