Amazon backtracks after covering NYC subway car in Nazi symbols

"Man in the High Castle" campaign pulled after one day on 42nd Street MTA shuttle.

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[MustangFTW]

Damn, people are so sensitive. Its clearly an Ad for their show with modified versions of the flags. And here I was expecting to see a picture of a subway covered in swastikas.

 

[bsbllclown]

Yeah, talk about an over reaction.

 

[심돌산]

There's actually nothing particularly Nazi about that eagle (although it copies the style sometimes used in the 1930s). Germany still uses the symbol to this day:

 

[MiggityMikeB]

It's starting to get old seeing the amount of people being offended by everything, and then companies caving in to the greasy wheels on social media.

 

[MustangFTW]

Ostracus[/url]":1evbnskt]

MustangFTW[/url]":1evbnskt]Damn, people are so sensitive. Its clearly an Ad for their show with modified versions of the flags. And here I was expecting to see a picture of a subway covered in swastikas.

Are they? Wonder how well this would have done in Germany, or Japan?

Dollars to donuts it would be fine. This isn't even strictly Nazi symbols, they are some made up flags with a German eagle symbol that is still in use today. The ad for the show is right above it too.

 

[marsilies]

심돌산[/url]":1bfj6837]There's actually nothing particularly Nazi about that eagle (although it copies the style sometimes used in the 1930s). Germany still uses the symbol to this day:

The Japanese "Imperial Flag" is also still in use in Japan, although not without some controversy:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wor ... oblem-too/

Despite its history, the Rising Sun flag remains in use. It is flown by the Japanese Maritime Self-Defense Force, which was formed following the dissolution of the Imperial Japanese Navy. The Japanese Ground Self-Defense Force uses a modified version, too, and you can spot the flag on cans of Asahi beer or in the flag of the Asahi Shimbun newspaper company.

 

[kylector]

This seems like another case of "people on social media love to be offended".

 

[soulsabr]

MustangFTW[/url]":1vz2e2yp]

Ostracus[/url]":1vz2e2yp]

MustangFTW[/url]":1vz2e2yp]Damn, people are so sensitive. Its clearly an Ad for their show with modified versions of the flags. And here I was expecting to see a picture of a subway covered in swastikas.

Are they? Wonder how well this would have done in Germany, or Japan?

Dollars to donuts it would be fine. This isn't even strictly Nazi symbols, they are some made up flags with a German eagle symbol that is still in use today. The ad for the show is right above it too.

Germany? The same country you can't buy call of duty in due to the zombies mode? That Germany?

 

[Chromauk]

I'll just leave this here...

 

[potato44819]

Sorry. We have Liberty Prime.

AMERICA WILL NEVER FALL TO COMMUNISM.

COMMUNISM IS BUT A TEMPORARY SETBACK ON THE ROAD TO FREEDOM.

EMBRACE DEMOCRACY OR YOU WILL BE ERADICATED!

 

[Bobb_o]

Not going to lie all this publicity got me to watch the show.

Good job Amazon.

 

[PhilGil]

Are you kidding, this is brilliant. Amazon is getting 10x the press and social media attention they would have received by just decorating the subway car.

 

[Ten Wind]

심돌산[/url]":35tdcr4t]There's actually nothing particularly Nazi about that eagle (although it copies the style sometimes used in the 1930s). Germany still uses the symbol to this day:

That's the coat of arms of Germany. The insignia shown in the photo from the story is specifically the Emblem of the Reich. I should also note that this was the formal symbol of the Nazi party.

Edit; apparently Ars doesn't like svg's.

 

[rick*d]

MiggityMikeB[/url]":16v9ojm0]It's starting to get old seeing the amount of people being offended by everything, and then companies caving in to the greasy wheels on social media.

On the other hand, if you're trying to persuade people to buy your product perhaps it's wise not to offend them, even if they are overly sensitive.

 

[Schizoid]

thelee[/url]":2x5dko9u]I'm surprised to see so many commentors here unable to see why it might be a problem of putting the iron cross as well as imperial japanese imagery all over public transit.

'Cause they are fake? And advertisements for a series about a fictional universe?

 

[schizrade]

I just hate it when they wrap trains in stuff, cause you cannot see out the windows and get motion sick/annoyed... looking at you Metrolink bicycle car. Apparently the only way us dumb people that ride the train will know that a car is the main bicycle car is by wrapping it in a giant, opaque, bicycle picture around the entire car, cause the bicycle logos by the doors are not enough.

Oh and there are no Nazi symbols on that train, just more NYC bed wetters looking to shine about something.

 

[Arctorus]

The thing is, the "reaction" is precisely what you're going for with this sort of ad. I had the same reaction when I first read the novel (but I didn't cry about it publicly on social media, because it was 1983). In fact, seeing celebrated US landmarks co-opted by the Nazi regime in the show leads to both feelings of astonishment and horror. Had there not been a really great series associated with this ad campaign - sure, go ahead and be upset. As an aside, I was deeply impressed with how the show's creators brought the High Castle novel forward, enmeshing it within PKD's later "discoveries" from his work in the Exegesis. Truly wonderful series.

 

[Schizoid]

Jordan Orlando[/url]":cpkmrgky]

Schizoid[/url]":cpkmrgky]

thelee[/url]":cpkmrgky]I'm surprised to see so many commentors here unable to see why it might be a problem of putting the iron cross as well as imperial japanese imagery all over public transit.

'Cause they are fake? And advertisements for a series about a fictional universe?

It's Nazi symbols. You can't put Nazi symbols on things, for any reason (especially something trivial like a television show) and especially in New York City, the home of many generations of Holocaust survivors and the location of the Jewish Museum.

You can't expect New Yorkers (or really any Americans) to "get the joke" on this one. Especially this year; it's a little too close to the bone.

It may not be the best idea, advertising-wise, but you absolutely can put nazi symbols on things.

 

[AdamM]

The twitter image is a classic case of taking things out of context.

Let's focus on the seats while minimizing the rest of the marketing wrap on the windows.

 

[심돌산]

Ten Wind[/url]":2sfn659l]

심돌산[/url]":2sfn659l]There's actually nothing particularly Nazi about that eagle (although it copies the style sometimes used in the 1930s). Germany still uses the symbol to this day:

That's the coat of arms of Germany. The insignia shown in the photo from the story is specifically the Emblem of the Reich. I should also note that this was the formal symbol of the Nazi party.

Edit; apparently Ars doesn't like svg's.

There is a big difference. What you posted has a swastika. That's what makes it Nazi. There are eagles just like this still on buildings in Germany today, just with the swastika removed, because the eagle itself isn't a Nazi symbol.

 

[schizrade]

Ten Wind[/url]":16i925ih]

심돌산[/url]":16i925ih]There's actually nothing particularly Nazi about that eagle (although it copies the style sometimes used in the 1930s). Germany still uses the symbol to this day:

That's the coat of arms of Germany. The insignia shown in the photo from the story is specifically the Emblem of the Reich.

Edit; apparently Ars doesn't like svg's.

Sure, sans swastika, you know, the part that turns it into a Nazi symbol?

What they are doing is evoking that time without having to plaster the most reviled symbol in modern history.

 

[심돌산]

Jordan Orlando[/url]":xizttk82]

Schizoid[/url]":xizttk82]

thelee[/url]":xizttk82]I'm surprised to see so many commentors here unable to see why it might be a problem of putting the iron cross as well as imperial japanese imagery all over public transit.

'Cause they are fake? And advertisements for a series about a fictional universe?

It's Nazi symbols. You can't put Nazi symbols on things, for any reason (especially something trivial like a television show) and especially in New York City, the home of many generations of Holocaust survivors and the location of the Jewish Museum.

You can't expect New Yorkers (or really any Americans) to "get the joke" on this one. Especially this year; it's a little too close to the bone.

There's no Nazi symbol in the ad.

 

[rick*d]

Jordan Orlando[/url]":160agv4t]

Schizoid[/url]":160agv4t]

thelee[/url]":160agv4t]I'm surprised to see so many commentors here unable to see why it might be a problem of putting the iron cross as well as imperial japanese imagery all over public transit.

'Cause they are fake? And advertisements for a series about a fictional universe?

It's Nazi symbols. You can't put Nazi symbols on things, for any reason (especially something trivial like a television show) and especially in New York City, the home of many generations of Holocaust survivors and the location of the Jewish Museum.

You can't expect New Yorkers (or really any Americans) to "get the joke" on this one. Especially this year; it's a little too close to the bone.

What Nazi symbol? The Eagle? That's as American as apple pie. Yes, it's clearly a 1930's Art Deco eagle, but so what? The Iron Cross? Germany used that in WWI, before the Nazis. Do these images invoke Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan? Yes, that's their point. Are they actual Nazi and Imperial Japanese symbols? No, they are not.

 

[harteman]

We should stop catering to these vocal few who have nothing better to do than bitch.

 

[rick*d]

harteman[/url]":gdcr441t]We should stop catering to these vocal few who have nothing better to do than bitch.

Sadly, they're not so few.

 

[0bliv!on]

Yet again people getting offended for no good reason.

 

[rick*d]

Ten Wind[/url]":3hrktn40]

심돌산[/url]":3hrktn40]

Ten Wind[/url]":3hrktn40]

심돌산[/url]":3hrktn40]There's actually nothing particularly Nazi about that eagle (although it copies the style sometimes used in the 1930s). Germany still uses the symbol to this day:

That's the coat of arms of Germany. The insignia shown in the photo from the story is specifically the Emblem of the Reich. I should also note that this was the formal symbol of the Nazi party.

Edit; apparently Ars doesn't like svg's.

There is a big difference. What you posted has a swastika. That's what makes it Nazi. There are eagles just like this still on buildings in Germany today, just with the swastika removed, because the eagle itself isn't a Nazi symbol.

The eagle in that form has only ever been used by the Nazi party. It's specifically a Nazi symbol, with or without the Swastika.

Don't confuse Nazi with Art Deco or we'll have to tear down half the buildings in New York City.

 

[0bliv!on]

Jordan Orlando[/url]":19ztr9hp]

Schizoid[/url]":19ztr9hp]

Jordan Orlando[/url]":19ztr9hp]

Schizoid[/url]":19ztr9hp]

thelee[/url]":19ztr9hp]I'm surprised to see so many commentors here unable to see why it might be a problem of putting the iron cross as well as imperial japanese imagery all over public transit.

'Cause they are fake? And advertisements for a series about a fictional universe?

It's Nazi symbols. You can't put Nazi symbols on things, for any reason (especially something trivial like a television show) and especially in New York City, the home of many generations of Holocaust survivors and the location of the Jewish Museum.

You can't expect New Yorkers (or really any Americans) to "get the joke" on this one. Especially this year; it's a little too close to the bone.

It may not be the best idea, advertising-wise, but you absolutely can put nazi symbols on things.

Like Fredrick Forsythe novels? Like that, you mean? Sure. But not subway cars.

Train cars, for heaven's sake. What the hell is wrong with you people?

Oh no, train cars.

Did you miss a /s there?

 

[심돌산]

thelee[/url]":raseezpf]I'm surprised to see so many commentors here unable to see why it might be a problem of putting the iron cross as well as imperial japanese imagery all over public transit.

The iron cross is also not Nazi and still used to this day.