Amazon backtracks after covering NYC subway car in Nazi symbols

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[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=30185291#p30185291:35tdcr4t said:
심돌산[/url]":35tdcr4t]There's actually nothing particularly Nazi about that eagle (although it copies the style sometimes used in the 1930s). Germany still uses the symbol to this day:

That's the coat of arms of Germany. The insignia shown in the photo from the story is specifically the Emblem of the Reich. I should also note that this was the formal symbol of the Nazi party.

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[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=30186679#p30186679:2qyzbb2b said:
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Actually the eagle (in many variants that are quite similar to this style) is a traditional symbol in the heraldic coats of arms of the nobles whose holdings are collectively called "The Germanies". The region unified centuries later and is today referred to as Germany and Austria. Also parts of modern day France, Netherlands, Italy and Poland were once Germanies also. (not part of "Gemany the country", but baronies that were in the group known as The Germanies)

By your reasoning the Nazi party has deep roots in German history
As early as 800 AD, Charlemagne adopted the single-headed eagle as the symbol of imperial power. An illustration in the Bamberg Evangeliar shows Emperor Otto III, holding an eagle-shaped sceptre in 1000 AD.
This history notes that the double headed Eagle was formally adopted by the German Confederation in 1848 as the Imperial Emblem.
The single headed eagle was adopted in 1871 by Wilhelm, King of Prussia and Kaiser of Germany.

So most definitely this symbol belongs to the Nazis and can be associated with no other part of German history, so the Bundestag must remove it from the plenary chamber in accord with the ban on Nazi symbols in Germany
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The Bundestag eagle in the plenary chamber © German Bundestag/ Schüring

True the traditional version faces left as you look at it, but that is a detail most viewers will completely overlook (including objectors to the ad which uses the Imperial eagle facing to viewer's left instead of the Nazi eagle facing to viewer's right)

The emblem you posted isn't even close to similar to the emblem of the Nazi party. Of course the eagle is a traditional symbol of many Germanic groups and is obviously seen on a great deal of heraldry. That's completely irrelevant though.

The eagle that is known as the emblem of the Nazi party, that was endorsed by Adolf Hitler, and is featured on Hitler's personal standard was designed by a member of the Nazi party and has only ever been used as Nazi iconography. The fact that there are other rampant eagles on other coats of arms with different designs in different styles doesn't change that this design is one that was created and used solely by Nazis.

Now, whether anyone should be outraged by its use or not isn't something I'm really concerned with. My reaction isn't one of outrage certainly, I just rolled my eyes when I read the article. To argue that the eagle that was featured in the advert isn't a symbol of the Nazi party is completely ridiculous though, and I'm actually very surprised that anyone would argue it.

Also, the forum just giving up and puking an error when you try to reply to someone is really unhelpful.
 
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[url=http://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=30185291#p30185291:2t0c2vro said:
심돌산[/url]":2t0c2vro]There's actually nothing particularly Nazi about that eagle (although it copies the style sometimes used in the 1930s).

Which was almost exact copy of Roman Legionaries' eagle:
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This is getting silly, there's a complete history of standards of the roman legions. That one isn't in it. The Aquila that the romans used had a very different form.

I mean look at your link, the image is under the folder /althistory/images on whatever server you found it on. A little digging shows that is was made by someone on deviantart. There's a similar one in red and gold made by the same person that shows up on when you look on google images. The roman Aquila looks more like this,

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There were others used on standards that had partially outspread wings, but they were of a very different style.
 
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