Nothing explains why the Phone 3a Pro ended up with a giant camera

Wallachia

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why dont they (and Google, and everyone else) just make the phone flush with the camera bump and use as much of that extra space as is feasible for battery space

like if you want to make your phone as thin as possible, fine -- but if you need to extend out that profile to fit the camera, you've already lost that game and the phone is as thin as possible at the thickness of the camera -- just give me more battery life!
 
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The camera bumps on most phones end up being flush with the back of a case when attached to the phone. About 75% of phones live in cases all the time, which I think has led some OEMs to inflate the size of the bump while keeping the body slim for bragging purposes.
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scottwsx96

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I think it's a pretty refreshing design change to the simple slabs from Samsung and Apple we've had for awhile now. I noticed the article said that the 3a Pro wasn't a flagship device. Why not? What are its shortcomings? What is their flagship device? Are they releasing a newer flagship with this design aesthetic?
 
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85mm

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I feel like the article was pulled along a little too strongly by the "some people may hate it" marketing. Is there really anything there to have strong feelings about? What's the story?
 
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The desire across the industry to double phone thickness with camera modules is a little interesting, no? We used to have tiny sensors flush with the surface, and now Nothing is like, "bigger, taller, and put lights around it."
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ERIFNOMI

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why dont they (and Google, and everyone else) just make the phone flush with the camera bump and use as much of that extra space as is feasible for battery space

like if you want to make your phone as thin as possible, fine -- but if you need to extend out that profile to fit the camera, you've already lost that game and the phone is as thin as possible at the thickness of the camera -- just give me more battery life!
You will never please everyone. Make the phone thicker and fill it with a tiny bit more battery, and people will bitch that it's thick and heavy and unpocketable when in a case. Make it thinner but extrude a bit out for a camera, and people will bitch it has an "ugly" bump. Put a fingerprint reader under the screen? Move it to the back? Guess what?

I'm not surprised when someone plays it safe and does the same thing as everyone else. If you can't please everyone, then doing the same as everyone else means at least you're not alienating more people than anyone else.
 
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In case you were worried, you can also buy Nothing branded apparel, as worn by the most bored-looking model they could find.
I was trying to find a explanation for those expressions......Probably 3 seconds before the photographer snapped the picture, the guy asked the girl if she wanted to go out after the shoot.
 
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why dont they (and Google, and everyone else) just make the phone flush with the camera bump and use as much of that extra space as is feasible for battery space

like if you want to make your phone as thin as possible, fine -- but if you need to extend out that profile to fit the camera, you've already lost that game and the phone is as thin as possible at the thickness of the camera -- just give me more battery life!
They can cheat on design, too. Bumps allow them to stick the camera onto the same PCB rather than splitting it off to a daughterboard to package it flush with the phone body.
 
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zarmanto

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I feel like the article was pulled along a little too strongly by the "some people may hate it" marketing. Is there really anything there to have strong feelings about? What's the story?
For a product to garner strong feelings means that it has succeeded -- even if those feelings are negative. But personally, I find myself wondering if perhaps the promotional video Nothing produced is displaying a bit too much optimism, in suggesting that their latest wares will prompt so much love/hate. Here on Ars, perhaps... but in the larger market? I'm skeptical.
 
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treesap

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Don't love the size of the bump there, but I'll say that I really really love my Nothing (2). It was a flagship-level phone for a few hundred bucks less than the competitors—and I really appreciate the unique looks, even if the glyph feature hasn't been a huge value add in my usage.

Nothing is cementing itself as the new OnePlus as far as I'm concerned—seems very similar to what they were doing before they went all out on making super pricey phones with curved screens and no really unique features. Assuming they stay on course, I'll grab a Nothing (3) whenever they're announced/released. (That'll be the "high-end" one—the A models are the "lite" ones.)
 
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wagnerrp

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I'm waiting for them to make the bump telescope outward when you activate the camera... like a pocket camera from back in the day 🤣
Not gonna happen. That’s the whole point of these “periscope” cameras that achieve the necessary focal length in the height of the phone, rather than needing the extra thickness.
 
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zogus

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I feel like the article was pulled along a little too strongly by the "some people may hate it" marketing. Is there really anything there to have strong feelings about? What's the story?
Well, to me, carrying this phone means advertising to the entire world: "I am so stupid that I have been taken in by these fake 'internal' details and blingy LEDs that serve no useful purpose." The fact that the phone is named "Nothing," which means there is nothing substantive about the product, adds to the insult. Yeah, insult. That's the word. I refuse to have anything to do with the device because every time I hear about it, I get the feeling that Carl Pei is insulting our intelligence, and he's expecting us to lap it up.

But that's just me.
 
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why dont they (and Google, and everyone else) just make the phone flush with the camera bump and use as much of that extra space as is feasible for battery space

like if you want to make your phone as thin as possible, fine -- but if you need to extend out that profile to fit the camera, you've already lost that game and the phone is as thin as possible at the thickness of the camera -- just give me more battery life!
Most people are going to put a case on the phone anyway, thus obscuring most, if not all, of that additional lens thickness.

Also, consumers, on average, have tended to vote for smaller batteries than what the average batteryphile would prefer.

My preference would always be to have a battery that's at least 20% larger than it needs to be to satisfy whatever daily usage average the manufacturer is targetting, thus leaving spare charge capacity sufficient to allow regular daily charging to never exceed 80%. This would greatly extend the long-term service life of any given battery unit, but it would also allow for greater initial charge before days when the user expects to use more battery than normal(i.e. travelling or field work).

But then another problem is that the charging port is built to withstand just barely enough cycles of plug/unplug before it too wears out. I've been using a magnetic clip charger that uses a USB-C dongle(though the kit comes with micro-USB and lightning dongles too) to mitigate this problem on my phones since I had my first charging port wear out a few years ago. But I also plug/unplug my phone probably 10 times a day, where most people probably only plug/unplug once or twice a day.
 
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