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There it is - the truth. Most people here don't care about genocide, unless it affects them.

And this attitude is why Harris lost the election. Because so many people disagree with the ongoing genocide they just stayed home.

Good job.
By that, you clearly don't give a crap about Arab Americans here in the US, nor LGBT people here in the US. Because you chose to turn your back on them.
 
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It's been proven that the supposed "demands" are nothing but suggestions. Unmet demands have consequences. Platitudes to satiate compliant voters don't.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/nov/13/israel-joe-biden-aid-gaza
Or worse, we find out that our red line has about as much effect as it had on Syria.

Netanyahu is unlikely to stop the war because it means he's likely to go to jail. They'd likely be able to continue fighting for an extended time, and would likely have to move towards an even less discriminating methods. Do you really think that Netanyahu wouldn't just nuke his enemies if his back was to the wall?

Anything short of boots on the ground and going to war on Israel is not likely to be effective.

Edit: I don't like it any more than anyone else on the left is. But I recognize we're kind of screwed, especially since the election of Trump is only going to cause the conflict to escalate.
 
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People who over use fragrances are in general a problem in public. Fortunately, there aren't a lot of people like that, but you're just as likely to have to deal with it at work or at the theater.
Thankfully I work from home and my wife respects that strong smells can trigger migraines.

Haven't been to a movie theater in, damn, I can't even remember the last movie I saw in theaters. Always hated it unless I lucked out and got a showing to myself. People who think movies require audience participation are right up there with people who think cologne/perfume replace taking a fucking shower.

Most public places allow for much more separation than public transportation. I use public transportation when I'm in places that actually have it. I'm not against it. I was just in NYC recently. Took the train into and out of the city multiple times. Took the subway in the city tons of times. When I'm in DC, I use the metro. I'm not against public transportation. I'm calling out the fuckig weird "why are you sniffing people" comment.
 
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Thankfully I work from home and my wife respects that strong smells can trigger migraines.

Haven't been to a movie theater in, damn, I can't even remember the last movie I saw in theaters. Always hated it unless I lucked out and got a showing to myself. People who think movies require audience participation are right up there with people who think cologne/perfume replace taking a fucking shower.

Most public places allow for much more separation than public transportation. I use public transportation when I'm in places that actually have it. I'm not against it. I was just in NYC recently. Took the train into and out of the city multiple times. Took the subway in the city tons of times. When I'm in DC, I use the metro. I'm not against public transportation. I'm calling out the fuckig weird "why are you sniffing people" comment.
That reply was to a weird ass comment about public transit supporters fantasies.

Having had to suffer in the work place, I can tell you those folks are not any more pleasant in the office than they are in public transit. Nor do you need to get particularly close to them, in my experience.
 
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The primary issue with people like that is that they have fooled themselves into thinking elections aren't a zero sum game. They just fundamentally don't understand electoral politics. And steadfastly refuse to be educated.

The only possible outcomes of this election was going to be a Harris win or a Trump win. Start there, accept it, really own that reality, then you can look at Harris vs Trump honestly and decide who is better on Israel and Gaza. It sure ain't Trump. If Gaza was your issue, and you voted for anyone but Harris, you helped get Trump elected so he can, as he said, help Israel "finish the job". That's that. Nothing else is real.
For that matter, I roundly reject the idea that Harris lost just because of "doing genocide". She lost because our media was dedicated to sane-washing Trump and undemining her. They amplified Trump and muted Harris such that most people only casually paying attention only got "I'm not Trump" from her, in spite of all of her speech about plans on behalf of the middle class, particuarly African Americans and Hispanics. A significant portion of our electorate didn't even know Biden wasn't the candidate... didn't even know who Harris was. But damn, Trump is good for ratings... until he has CNN shut down.
 
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It's been proven that the supposed "demands" are nothing but suggestions. Unmet demands have consequences. Platitudes to satiate compliant voters don't.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/nov/13/israel-joe-biden-aid-gaza
If Biden had cut off Israel, Harris would have lost by a larger amount than she did. I guarantee it. People that hate Trump, but are nonetheless Zionists (whether they fully understand that's what they're supporting or not), absolutely make up a larger part of democratic support than people who support Gaza/Hamas. If Gaza lost Harris the election, then literally the only possible outcome here was Harris losing the election, and Gaza subsequently getting wiped off the map.

Don't pretend 80 million people chose to not support Harris over Gaza. The vast majority of them voted for Trump - "finish the job" Trump. Granted, some of the ignorant probably don't know Trump is in explicitly in favor of genocide, but certainly the vast majority that I've interacted with never argued he was any better than Biden/Harris. As far as what motivated everyone else, don't even try to argue that the economy wasn't the top issue. Gaza is down the list. I really think you need to understand and accept, more people who care about Gaza voted for Harris than people who care about Gaza who abstained or voted third party. The people that wanted genocide voted for Trump.

So, yes, the Biden administration has been pushing for a cease-fire and humanitarian aid, without any ability to demand it. They fundamentally had no backing to end aid, and Netanyahu had every incentive to slow-walk it to see if Trump would win so he could just get a blank check. Worked out for him.
 
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For that matter, I roundly reject the idea that Harris lost just because of "doing genocide". She lost because our media was dedicated to sane-washing Trump and undemining her. They amplified Trump and muted Harris such that most people only casually paying attention only got "I'm not Trump" from her, in spite of all of her speech about plans on behalf of the middle class, particuarly African Americans and Hispanics. A significant portion of our electorate didn't even know Biden wasn't the candidate... didn't even know who Harris was. But damn, Trump is good for ratings... until he has CNN shut down.
Yeah, if anything blew my mind this cycle, it's how many people are either a) almost entirely uninformed and just absolutely do not give a fuck whether they are or not or b) vote entirely based on vibes and give just barely enough of a fuck to vote, occasionally, when the vibes compel them to. To the extent a lot of people voted for any particular reason at all, it was dumb bullshit like "Trump says I can buy a house again" or "I used to have a lot more walkin' around money, shit sucks" or "he's rich, he must know economic shit and stuff" or "he can make deals with other presidents and stuff."

That said, I dunno, I feel like with Trump and the media, it's all kayfabe. He loves media attention and to the extent he's anything, a former reality TV star is probably the most relevant. He's the hero, they're the heel. Or vice versa, really.
 
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If the government never created these EV tax credits in the first place, no one here would be bickering about them.
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The dumb part is everyone else's tax dollars DO get spent on their diesel truck - both in associated health costs and subsidies for oil, the most subsidized industry on earth.
Not to mention the fact pedestrians and cyclists subsidise all automobiles to an outrageous degree for their use of the roadways.
I envy your poor sense of smell I guess lol
Why do you have to be so weird about everything?
 
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No one thinks that the subsidies are inflating prices? I do. Eliminating them might actually be beneficial.

When phone subsidies we being eliminated all I heard was that by paying for your phone up front it would be less costly. I'm not sure that's what happened, but that was the general feeling from the Technorati.
 
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Literally nothing in Trump's history would even remotely suggest that.
As I explicitly said, I don't think it's likely.

However, he has had weird, unpredictable impacts in Israeli politics before: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news...election/0000017f-efea-df98-a5ff-efef538b0000

And he's repeatedly said the war in Gaza makes Israel look bad (and makes him look bad if he's supplying the bombs), and we all know if there's one thing he cares about, it's how he looks: https://www.timesofisrael.com/trump...za-war-over-by-time-he-enters-office-sources/

Just as only Nixon could open relations with those commies in the CCP, he has an extraordinary opportunity to shape Israel's, and possibly the region's, future. History is weird as fuck at the pivot points, and he certainly represents the expression of some fundamental, epoch defining shift in US politics for the next few decades. I don't see why it would be impossible he could do something similar to Israeli regional geopolitics.

Look, I voted for Harris. But, I need some hope to grab onto somewhere, and this actually fits that bill for now (though as I suggested, he could well decide that "ending the conflict" means wiping Gaza off the map - bad outcome, in my view). Just keep that in mind; maybe I could've done more to change the election outcome, but I used my hard, actual power (read: my vote) as best I knew how. Now I have to look for the silver linings, because my desired approach was that one that failed at the ballot box.
 
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No one thinks that the subsidies are inflating prices? I do. Eliminating them might actually be beneficial.

When phone subsidies we being eliminated all I heard was that by paying for your phone up front it would be less costly. I'm not sure that's what happened, but that was the general feeling from the Technorati.
...yes, because the subsidy on a smartphone was coming from a profit-seeking telecom. Of course Verizon was going to screw you on the phone you bought through them.

EV subsidies come from Uncle Sam. They doubtless do distort the market in various ways - some of which may be highly unintuitive - but there's a big difference between "I will offer you a cheap upfront price on a product I am selling you if you agree to a binding contract of services from me which I will sell at a wildly inflated price for a set period" and "hey, I'll sell you this car and also you will get a tax break".
 
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he could well decide that "ending the conflict" means wiping Gaza off the map
More than "he could decide", he's literally already said that's what Israel should do. There's no reason to believe he'll do anything other than support that goal. I understand you're looking for a silver lining - this ain't gonna be it. I see why you would look here for that, but understand, Trump doesn't have any policy allegiance. When it comes to the "what" to do, he just pulls from the Republican hit list. Which is a separate issue, but as regards Israel, it's explicit and full throated support - because it's an Evangelical priority, they see support of Israel as their efforts to bring about Revelations. This is entirely serious.

Trump will not piss off Evangelicals, and this is one of their biggest issues. He will absolutely facilitate Israel wiping Gaza off the map, and the West Bank is next. I'm not trying to undermine your hope, but it's important that we be real. Insofar as it comes to how Trump relates to Israel, Gaza is doomed.
 
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Trump - he’s an asshole, and he’s no human rights guru, but he is also deeply concerned with his image, and so may end up being convinced he doesn’t want to end up in the history books next to Biden under “Genocide”.

So do I think Trump will be as bad for Gaza as Harris? Yep. But there is hope - Harris was extremely clear genocide was her price for “cheaper groceries”. Google that.
Again, ridiculous. He has simply shrugged off being labeled a felon, an adjudicated rapist, an obvious racist and fascist. You think that might worry about adding "genocide" to his list of deeds is a bridge too far? That there's a possibility he might stop the genocide? Have you not heard him tell Netanyahu, "do what you gotta?" Have you not heard him whine that he's the best thing for Israel since sliced bread so why aren't all the Jews voting for me? Have you not heard how he views Muslims?

"But there is hope."

No. There is none. It's like you went deep in the red for buying a huge house and you're praying it'll all come out OK because that lotto ticket in your hand is gonna win big. How can you not see this?
 
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Then of course there is the misuse of the label for the Democrat party. Republicans and Democrats are both Democratic, but using that word to describe one over the other implies the other is not. Either that or the people doing it are just stupid.
Both parties are not "democratic" any more than both parties are "republican", since they both operate within the confines of a democratic republic.

"Democrat party" is a pejorative used by conservatives who don't understand how language works, but enjoy using any method they can to insult Democrats. It's functionally equivalent to calling Republicans "the Republic party".
 
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America Defeats America

Companies like Hyundai that are building factories in the USA and creating domestic jobs are going to be harmed by this, and other companies will turn a wary eye to investing in America with such whiplash, mercurial behavior. Trump might be an idiot, so hopefully the collective legislative branch has a tiny bit more sense. Time for Republican senators to put on their big boy pants again and pretend to be adults in the room.
“hopefully the collective legislative branch has a tiny bit more sense"


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Harris lost decisively, because she was actively committing genocide. It was a mask off moment that finally allowed the world to see her, and her most fervent supporters, for what they are - fascists. People who will support and enable a genocide, and consistently attack as traitors and terrorists those who oppose that genocide.
No, she lost because media amplified how Biden supported genocide and her shutting down vocal protests in her rallies. No one outside any of her speeches heard a whisper about what she wanted to do differently. She lost because of vibes. Media didn't amplify her explicit economic plans and sane-washed Trump with "ideas of a plan" about how he's bringing prices down. Most Americans think "tariff" is a tax on another country for the privilege of selling in the US! Other voters were so ignorant of the election, they thought Biden was obviously still running and did not know Harris was the Democratic candidate... didn't even know who she is because the VP is that unimportant to the politically disengaged; those voters don't give a single shit about Gaza.

The sitting president from 2017-2021 explicitly supported Israel, including their genocidal actions during that time; who was that?
 
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That's an assumption that could be proven wrong relatively soon. It concerns the Lebanon battle not Gaza, but the sooner that can be ended before Israel finishes its "make Lebanon Gaza" tour of destruction, the better.


I think Trump has an advantage that any threats he makes (likely in private) to Bibi will carry much more weight than any threats Biden makes. There is certainly no clear path forward though.
What makes you think Trump would threaten Bibi at all? There's literally zero reason to expect that. In fact, there's zero reason to expect Trump to say anything in private that he doesn't also say in public. He's shown a completely inability to not speak publicly in direct accordance with what he's thinking. Never once has he even so much as head-faked some different policy. This completely ignores who we know Trump to be, and the nature of Trump's relationship with Netanyahu.

Israel is trying to get Trump a foreign policy win in Lebanon so that he'll have cover to support them destroying what remains of Gaza, and then they'll follow with the West Bank.
 
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Then of course there is the misuse of the label for the Democrat party. Republicans and Democrats are both Democratic, but using that word to describe one over the other implies the other is not. Either that or the people doing it are just stupid.
There is no Democrat Party. It is literally called the Democratic Party. Look it up.

While you're at it, look up what "Republican" means.
 
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Yeah, if anything blew my mind this cycle, it's how many people are either a) almost entirely uninformed and just absolutely do not give a fuck whether they are or not or b) vote entirely based on vibes and give just barely enough of a fuck to vote, occasionally, when the vibes compel them to. To the extent a lot of people voted for any particular reason at all, it was dumb bullshit like "Trump says I can buy a house again" or "I used to have a lot more walkin' around money, shit sucks" or "he's rich, he must know economic shit and stuff" or "he can make deals with other presidents and stuff."

That said, I dunno, I feel like with Trump and the media, it's all kayfabe. He loves media attention and to the extent he's anything, a former reality TV star is probably the most relevant. He's the hero, they're the heel. Or vice versa, really.
I'm surprised those two possibilities even surprised you, let alone "blew your mind."

Maybe it's just because of my upbringing, but I'm not surprised people are stupid and "vote on vibes." My dad was a blue collar union worker. So many of the people he worked with would buy into shit "pro-worker" policies like "right-to-work" that were literally designed to take away the very fucking rights their union fights for them to have! You could run on a platform of "I will kill 50% of the country's population and lower your grocery prices by $20 a week" and there are tons of people out there who would go "oh shit, $20 cheaper grocery bill! Sign me up." Literally all you have to do is word shit so it sounds like a benefit to these people and they're all in. Like "right to work". Sounds like "I'm gonna create jobs for you" doesn't it? What it means is "everyone gets to benefit from the union*" but that big asterisk is "even without paying that union." Naturally, the goal is to make it so people say "why the fuck would I pay dues then" until suddenly there's no funding for the union, and thus no union. You'd think people who were members of said union, and paid much better than non-union peers, would see through the bullshit but no. They hear "all the benefits, none of the cost" and they stop thinking.
 
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Yeah, if anything blew my mind this cycle, it's how many people are either a) almost entirely uninformed and just absolutely do not give a fuck whether they are or not or b) vote entirely based on vibes and give just barely enough of a fuck to vote, occasionally, when the vibes compel them to. To the extent a lot of people voted for any particular reason at all, it was dumb bullshit like "Trump says I can buy a house again" or "I used to have a lot more walkin' around money, shit sucks" or "he's rich, he must know economic shit and stuff" or "he can make deals with other presidents and stuff."

That said, I dunno, I feel like with Trump and the media, it's all kayfabe. He loves media attention and to the extent he's anything, a former reality TV star is probably the most relevant. He's the hero, they're the heel. Or vice versa, really.
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So, I work in a public library. I teach computer literacy, bridging the digital divide, doing STEAM programming for kids, helping folks navigate job searches and locate support services and generally doing the ancillary tech things that libraries have taken on in addition to “traditional” library services.

Today has been busy. Really busy. About an hour ago, I had a tech support appointment with a sweet little old lady I’ve been helping for years. She’s a Spanish immigrant who speaks broken English, lives alone on public assistance and a small pension from her time as a private school teacher, and works 20 hours a week for one of our area’s aging/senior services & outreach orgs.

She came in last week to get help with her Lifeline phone from QLink, because she was getting messages from her carrier that she needed to swap SIMs because QLink recently got sold after their owner was convicted of massive fraud. She came in today to clean up some stuff and fret about how tech companies can see everything in her phone and to get help trying to set up (another) new Facebook account.

I finished helping her and we chatted. We always chat. It’s part of the job. My job is to care about you when you come in; to connect you with that shared humanity that we’ve privatized and corporatized and industrialized. People come in for a bit of help with email or something, but they become regulars because we’re the last place you can go in America where you don’t have to believe anything or pay anything or even do anything to be welcomed. You just can’t be a dick, and you gotta leave people in peace. Nothing else matters.

She leans in and she tells me in her piping little bird voice how happy she is that Donald Trump won because we need a big change. She says you can feel that we need a change when you are at the store.

I said I hoped she was right that this would work out for everyone, but that I was worried. I have a kid in high school right now and Trump is appointing someone to close down the Department of Education.

She said to me, very earnestly, very compassionately, with complete sincerity, that it would be okay because it would take time to close it, and my son would be done with school before it would affect us. She said that the next parents would have to worry about their own families.

This was meant to be a comfort. She didn’t have any illusions that it would be a good thing; she was just really, sincerely up front about how as long as I got mine, whatever happened to everyone else was their problem.

I said I’m not just worried about my son. I said I’m worried about what happens when he has kids. What happens to my neighbors kids. What happens to his friends.

She just kept reassuring me that it wouldn’t matter, because I wouldn’t personally be affected.

I’m

I just

What the fuck am I supposed to do with this world?
 
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She said to me, very earnestly, very compassionately, with complete sincerity, that it would be okay because it would take time to close it, and my son would be done with school before it would affect us. She said that the next parents would have to worry about their own families.
I was taught at a very young age the importance of free education (until high school), and why it's important for the society. I don't know where these people came from, but this shows how badly the education system has failed the country.
 
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I was taught at a very young age the importance of free education (until high school), and why it's important for the society. I don't know where these people came from, but this shows how badly the education system has failed the country.
And look at how "well" that education system has been funded, look at who determined that funding...
 
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So, I work in a public library. I teach computer literacy, bridging the digital divide, doing STEAM programming for kids, helping folks navigate job searches and locate support services and generally doing the ancillary tech things that libraries have taken on in addition to “traditional” library services.

Today has been busy. Really busy. About an hour ago, I had a tech support appointment with a sweet little old lady I’ve been helping for years. She’s a Spanish immigrant who speaks broken English, lives alone on public assistance and a small pension from her time as a private school teacher, and works 20 hours a week for one of our area’s aging/senior services & outreach orgs.

She came in last week to get help with her Lifeline phone from QLink, because she was getting messages from her carrier that she needed to swap SIMs because QLink recently got sold after their owner was convicted of massive fraud. She came in today to clean up some stuff and fret about how tech companies can see everything in her phone and to get help trying to set up (another) new Facebook account.

I finished helping her and we chatted. We always chat. It’s part of the job. My job is to care about you when you come in; to connect you with that shared humanity that we’ve privatized and corporatized and industrialized. People come in for a bit of help with email or something, but they become regulars because we’re the last place you can go in America where you don’t have to believe anything or pay anything or even do anything to be welcomed. You just can’t be a dick, and you gotta leave people in peace. Nothing else matters.

She leans in and she tells me in her piping little bird voice how happy she is that Donald Trump won because we need a big change. She says you can feel that we need a change when you are at the store.

I said I hoped she was right that this would work out for everyone, but that I was worried. I have a kid in high school right now and Trump is appointing someone to close down the Department of Education.

She said to me, very earnestly, very compassionately, with complete sincerity, that it would be okay because it would take time to close it, and my son would be done with school before it would affect us. She said that the next parents would have to worry about their own families.

This was meant to be a comfort. She didn’t have any illusions that it would be a good thing; she was just really, sincerely up front about how as long as I got mine, whatever happened to everyone else was their problem.

I said I’m not just worried about my son. I said I’m worried about what happens when he has kids. What happens to my neighbors kids. What happens to his friends.

She just kept reassuring me that it wouldn’t matter, because I wouldn’t personally be affected.

I’m

I just

What the fuck am I supposed to do with this world?
That kinda explains the "you don't have kids so you get no say" rhetoric that took off this year. No, I don't have kids, and that's none of your fucking business. But that doesn't mean I can't sympathize with parents or I have no meaningful input on issues that would impact society's future by harming kids. I have nephews. I have friends with kids.

I vote to pass levies for the local schools even though it has zero direct impact on me (I'm not sending kids there). I still think educating our god damn kids is a good use of the tiny amount of money that levy would increase taxes. I went to school in a poor school district that could never get money. I remember using outdated textbooks. I remember teachers having to bring in their own fucking paper and chalk because the school wouldn't/couldn't buy them any.

The people who say you have no say in something because you don't have a very direct stake in something are just showing how incredibly selfish they are. They are so concerned with only themselves it doesn't even cross their mind that someone else would put themselves aside when making decisions and pick what they believe is the right choice for people as a whole rather than just what will benefit themselves the most at this very moment. And then if you explain this to them, they find it so unrelatable that they don't accept that you're sincere.

A lot of people subscribe to the "fuck you, got mine" mentality. Too many people.
 
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That kinda explains the "you don't have kids so you get no say" rhetoric that took off this year. No, I don't have kids, and that's none of your fucking business. But that doesn't mean I can't sympathize with parents or I have no meaningful input on issues that would impact society's future by harming kids. I have nephews. I have friends with kids.

I vote to pass levies for the local schools even though it has zero direct impact on me (I'm not sending kids there). I still think educating our god damn kids is a good use of the tiny amount of money that levy would increase taxes. I went to school in a poor school district that could never get money. I remember using outdated textbooks. I remember teachers having to bring in their own fucking paper and chalk because the school wouldn't/couldn't buy them any.

The people who say you have no say in something because you don't have a very direct stake in something are just showing how incredibly selfish they are. They are so concerned with only themselves it doesn't even cross their mind that someone else would put themselves aside when making decisions and pick what they believe is the right choice for people as a whole rather than just what will benefit themselves the most at this very moment. And then if you explain this to them, they find it so unrelatable that they don't accept that you're sincere.

A lot of people subscribe to the "fuck you, got mine" mentality. Too many people.
What do you want to be doing in 20 years? Presumably, unless you're already in your 50s, the answer is gonna involve work in some way. Who do you want to be hiring at that point? Someone with a good education, or just whatever the remaining day care structure spit out, completely without skills or knowledge?
 
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So, I work in a public library. I teach computer literacy, bridging the digital divide, doing STEAM programming for kids, helping folks navigate job searches and locate support services and generally doing the ancillary tech things that libraries have taken on in addition to “traditional” library services.

Today has been busy. Really busy. About an hour ago, I had a tech support appointment with a sweet little old lady I’ve been helping for years. She’s a Spanish immigrant who speaks broken English, lives alone on public assistance and a small pension from her time as a private school teacher, and works 20 hours a week for one of our area’s aging/senior services & outreach orgs.

She came in last week to get help with her Lifeline phone from QLink, because she was getting messages from her carrier that she needed to swap SIMs because QLink recently got sold after their owner was convicted of massive fraud. She came in today to clean up some stuff and fret about how tech companies can see everything in her phone and to get help trying to set up (another) new Facebook account.

I finished helping her and we chatted. We always chat. It’s part of the job. My job is to care about you when you come in; to connect you with that shared humanity that we’ve privatized and corporatized and industrialized. People come in for a bit of help with email or something, but they become regulars because we’re the last place you can go in America where you don’t have to believe anything or pay anything or even do anything to be welcomed. You just can’t be a dick, and you gotta leave people in peace. Nothing else matters.

She leans in and she tells me in her piping little bird voice how happy she is that Donald Trump won because we need a big change. She says you can feel that we need a change when you are at the store.

I said I hoped she was right that this would work out for everyone, but that I was worried. I have a kid in high school right now and Trump is appointing someone to close down the Department of Education.

She said to me, very earnestly, very compassionately, with complete sincerity, that it would be okay because it would take time to close it, and my son would be done with school before it would affect us. She said that the next parents would have to worry about their own families.

This was meant to be a comfort. She didn’t have any illusions that it would be a good thing; she was just really, sincerely up front about how as long as I got mine, whatever happened to everyone else was their problem.

I said I’m not just worried about my son. I said I’m worried about what happens when he has kids. What happens to my neighbors kids. What happens to his friends.

She just kept reassuring me that it wouldn’t matter, because I wouldn’t personally be affected.

I’m

I just

What the fuck am I supposed to do with this world?
Can I just derail for a second to say I used to work at a public library as well, and I really wish we had more public institutions. It wasn't lawless, but we totally had homeless people come in to research job opportunities, because often you can't just fill out a paper application these days.

There were also the threatening folks, the kids running from cops, folks stealing stuff, etc. It's not perfect. But I just like living in a world where it's not a crime to be impoverished, and there are precious few areas of life where that remains true like it does in a library.
 
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ERIFNOMI

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What do you want to be doing in 20 years? Presumably, unless you're already in your 50s, the answer is gonna involve work in some way. Who do you want to be hiring at that point? Someone with a good education, or just whatever the remaining day care structure spit out, completely without skills or knowledge?
But that involves thinking more than 30 seconds into the future and about people who aren't you. Big ask.
 
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For that matter, I roundly reject the idea that Harris lost just because of "doing genocide". She lost because our media was dedicated to sane-washing Trump and undemining her. They amplified Trump and muted Harris such that most people only casually paying attention only got "I'm not Trump" from her, in spite of all of her speech about plans on behalf of the middle class, particuarly African Americans and Hispanics. A significant portion of our electorate didn't even know Biden wasn't the candidate... didn't even know who Harris was. But damn, Trump is good for ratings... until he has CNN shut down.
Spot. On. To say Harris lost over Gaza is patently absurd. A large majority of people in the U.S. couldn't spell Gaza let alone know anything about it except it's some nebulous Arab/Israeli war that's been going on since before they were born.
Trump won because the corporate media bent over backwards to normalize Trump's crazy talk and those who did hear it either loved it or just thought he wasn't serious.
These MAGA Nazis are serious as a heart attack and a sizable portion of those who voted him in are in for a heart attack when Trump gets serious after Jan. 20. The only people who are safe are billionaires (and then only some of them) and the ones who think they're safe because they're MAGA. See: People already in jail because they did Trump's bidding, those who will be in jail (or ruined beyond recovery) who did Trump's bidding. He fucks everyone and every*thing he touches and he is going to fuck this place and everyone in it royally.
We deserve who we elect.

Edit- sorry for the messed up italics. Old Man eyes.
 
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Frodo Douchebaggins

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What do you want to be doing in 20 years? Presumably, unless you're already in your 50s, the answer is gonna involve work in some way.

Who the fuck WANTS to be working in 20 years irrespective of their age?

Don't get me wrong, as far as jobs go, I like mine more than almost any other job I've had, and definitely more than any other job I've had full-time, but if I wasn't getting paid decent money there's no way I'd do it.

I work to survive and be able to enjoy life. I do not survive to enjoy work.


edited to add: Now, what will I likely NEED to be doing? yeah, working. Would have been cool to be part of a generation that gets to retire.
 
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