Lawsuit: Images were shared "for the tasteless entertainment of Tesla employees."
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Tesla sued after report that workers shared invasive images from car cameras
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How to capture amusing/arousing video for tech-bro shitcunt employees following their leaders example?
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When I bought mine in 2022 I needed to optin for the interior camera to record.
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There are many stories on ars Technica today (and everywhere) covering Musk or Tesla. My sense of them is, something or someone is headed for a painful crash. Can't figure out what or who exactly, though. Generally, under estimating Musk has not been a winning play over the years. Change is inevitable, however.
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They’re not recording without « sentry » on. My understanding is that in the past it could not be the case.
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Oh, come on, Gray! It'll be fun!
Now, I don't think you'll win, because I have an impeccably beautiful butt. But if your twerking skills are good, you might pick up some points there; twerking is my weak spot. But I do a slow sway that people find irresistible.
If you don't have a thong, no worries! I bee glad to lend you a couple. I'll even wash them for you (unless you'd prefer that I don't).
I'm assuming that Mindstatic will be one of the judges. We'll have to find two others!
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I haven't looked into it closely enough but it seems like the driver facing camera seeing the driver is required for the under-25mph automation features, so blocking it will probably block the feature. Just throwing money away at that point.
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In some cases the leaders do not set an example for the employees to follow so much as to even dictate that the employees must do bad things. I have worked for such companies, but left after finding out their orders were so depraved and odious, even including outright scientific or legal fraud.
*Original quote emphasis is mine.
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There was not a USB port in the glove compartment for Model S/X prior to 2021. The only USB ports were in the center console.
You are right, It does say that Sentry mode events are not recorded, one of the reasons I edited my post and added that link was to show what was and was not (because I originally thought Sentry was).
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I got a four digit settlement after my former company was acquired and the acquiring company tried to weasel out of stock compensation that the court found was enforceable contracts.
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Longmile149
Ars Scholae Palatinae
It seems weird to uncritically believe this.
Seriously, given their proven track record of Tesla lying and abusing the trust of their customers and particularly given that their CEO regularly lies about the current capabilities of their cars, why in the world would anyone believe Tesla when they say they don’t record Sentry data?
FFS, Tesla is in hot water right now for having a faked video up on their website for years claiming that their self-driving suite was 100% ready for prime time.
…and that’s not even touching the fact that Tesla’s CEO doesn’t believe contracts he doesn’t like are binding, up to and including things like “paying his employees” and “complying with federal regulations” and “honoring the terms of consent agreements.”
Tesla’s claim that they don’t store data seems like it’d make a fun pattern for toilet paper and not much else.
Edited for some weird typos
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When you are led by a self indulgent narcissist, stuff like this, as well as misogyny and racism, aren't a big deal. The rot starts at the head.
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That's the mistake you're making. Trump merely turned over the log. It had been rotting for decades in darkness already. Trump would never have won if his views weren't popular.
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Antisemitism was (is) common, indeed popular, in europe prior to 1930s
Pogroms have a long history
Similarly racism in general has been a key part of America social fabric since its founding
Making it the official policy of a nation is different
And no, Trump wasn't the first or even the most extreme U.S. President in this regard.
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Trump's role, as the source of cerebral rot in public discourse, should not be dismissed.
Generally speaking bacteria is spread throughout your body, that doesn't mean an abscess should be left untreated.
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Just another reason to put Tesla at the bottom of my list when shopping for a BEV.
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Racy photos of Senators in Teslas?
Please. No. There is not enough bleach in the world to clean that image from my mind's eye.
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Let's be clear: Trump didn't win, not by any standard definition of winning. He lost the popular vote both times he ran. He "won" by a bizarre quirk of the US electoral system that needs to be done away with.
"The winner is the guy who gets fewer votes" isn't a definition of democracy anywhere except in the US and it's political namesake, Bizarro World.
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I was aggressively fondled by an agent of the Chinese equivalent of the TSA, while her colleague stood by with an automatic weapon. I really thought I should have bought her dinner afterwards, but was happy just to be allowed to collect my luggage and leave.
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Come on - what percentage of Britons voted for Liz Truss again? Less than 1%? (https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/liz-truss-wins-leadership-contest-27915535)
Oh, but that's not fair you may say! That's in a Parliamentary system, and even if Liz Truss didn't win a majority, her party did, and that's what counts under those rules. Which is true, although the Conservative party didn't win it's majority with her at the head.
Point being, there is a lot more variety to actual, working democracies than simple majorities. I despise Donald Trump, but he won (and lost) fair-and-square under the rules.
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Man that's a thing I'd not have thought of.
Also makes you wonder about possible implications of them in general. Like if someone drove one to a nudist resort/beach or like in my parents neighborhood some neighbors in the summer would let their kids play in sprinklers or get a blow-up water slide thing and play in the front yards without a bathing suit...nobody really cared because whatever they're kids having fun and not bothering anyone, and everyone watched out for each other and knew each others' neighbors so if anything looked amiss it'd be called in immediately.
Whether you agree or like it doesn't matter if its a thing that can happen.
But like what happens then if you have a vehicle equipped with a dash cam and happen to drive by as that's happening? TECHNICALLY........
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Well, IDK about Yeh as he may not have much of a dog in the hunt; but likely any parent that had thier child photographed or videod by Tesla employees and used in a social manner without the consent of the parents on private property could be looking at child exploitation charges for everyone involved for every copy of media that was produced.
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LOL the copium is already here.
When this crashes and burns in court as tesla engineers go up to the stand and claim "we literally dont upload any sentry to the cloud anymore and havent for 3 years, we used to have it on the cloud and it wasnt worth our money or cars energy to upload so we keep it on usb. The only people who had access were high level employees who arent willing to be disposed as to why they accessed it" everyone is going to claim that those engineers are lying under oath. Trump voter level of conspiracy.
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All those Tesla charging stations being put up and down along the interstates are going to end up being rapist/murderer/carjacker/theft/ect magnets anyways so today's intrusion of privacy is going to be tomorrow's crime scene evidence, not that it would do you much good but still.
In the 40+ years of CCTV every step along the way whenever something new comes along, people have been making this same orwellian slippery slope argument only to be pleasantly surprised how quickly a dangerous criminal was apprehended or how their Ring doorbell caught the neighborhood porch-pirate stealing everyone's Amazon packages.
In the 40+ years of CCTV every step along the way whenever something new comes along, people have been making this same orwellian slippery slope argument only to be pleasantly surprised how quickly a dangerous criminal was apprehended or how their Ring doorbell caught the neighborhood porch-pirate stealing everyone's Amazon packages.
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You have to make the tradeoff that's good for you. We have ring doorbells, but no ring cams or Alexa type devices inside the house (other than those that require pushing a button like my watch, phone, TV remote...)
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Interesting point of view there .. do you have any data to back it up ?
London it considered among the most heavily cctv cities in the world and their effectiveness in controlling crime can be clearly seen,
since 1980s when its adoptation was begun in earnest Londons crime rates have … stayed almost exactly the same.
Local councils in UK have spent £515 million (about $807 million) on new cameras from 2008-2012, the equivalent of 4,121 police officers. Met police own estimates are that in 2008, “one crime was solved for every 1,000 CCTV cameras," … it not clear if that was meant to be by cctv or how many crimes it allots to being solved per police office.
Local police in america have been spending quite allot on Shotspotter gunshot detecting microphones systems which are basically useless.. something like a 200 to 1 hit rate.
but yeah …. Crime bad and cctv will solve it just like they have already has over the last 40+ years of use.
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That's the system we're under, he won the game we played, and that's what matters in the end. The fact that it was even CLOSE enough to allow for that electoral win is enough to prove the point. It's certainly less than half or even less than a third of the US, but at the end of the day, Trump DID win, and he only could have done so by the activation of that significant group. They had to exist in the first place to net him that win.
In the end, it doesn't matter to any of the people he's hurt what rules he used to win, just that he got power in the first place. He DID win, and we need to accept that so long as we have this system, we have to win by the rules of the game in play, not the rules we wish were in play.
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I don't disagree and I'm not advocating for the electoral collage of all things, but they're still what we're stuck with and what we have to "play" towards. It's the game we have to win. Indeed, there's no way to even have a hope of eliminating the college and changing the rules of voting (I favor scored voting and making election days national holidays) unless we can win the skewed system we have right now.
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I think the only proper answer to this is to require Tesla (and every other "connected" vehicle or device manufacturer) to allow customers unlimited access to the data collected by their own devices--and to unilaterally redact any data that they don't want the manufacturer to have access to.
Right now just about the best you can hope to expect is a binary "share data yes/no?" switch buried in settings, and all too frequently selecting "no" includes the caveat that you might lose some functionality.
I own a Tesla, and I have absolutely no idea what's in the logs, even those stored on my own device. I also have very little visibility into what's being sent back to the mothership. That's not really acceptable.
Right now just about the best you can hope to expect is a binary "share data yes/no?" switch buried in settings, and all too frequently selecting "no" includes the caveat that you might lose some functionality.
I own a Tesla, and I have absolutely no idea what's in the logs, even those stored on my own device. I also have very little visibility into what's being sent back to the mothership. That's not really acceptable.
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Honestly I’ve come around to the depressing view that privacy as a practical concept is dead.
We are all being monitored almost continuously, every time we go out in public, use our phones, go online, walk in front of any of our connected devices in our home or go near a growing number of cars.
The only saving grace so far that this is such an incredibly vast torrent of information that it can’t currently be practically catalogue.
but give it time, just like all the stolen credentials and account information being stocked up in hope of eventually being decrypted, this is where deep learning will eventually be put to use
So accepting we’ve already surrendered that ground, that what ever right to privacy we though we had has already be stripped, lets switch the battle lines.
Our data is being collected, then its being packaged and sold, repackaged and resold, but why does the act of collection grant ownership?
If privacy no longer exists fine, then I want access to the information .. not just mine, all of it.
You put cameras in the company toilets then I want access to them, and the ones in the executive suite.
Government monitors my phonecalls and morning jogs: then let me scan the cctv snd phone logs from the capital building.
Want to mount face recognition systems in shopping malls : Give free public access to the license plate readers around Washington so we can see who’s limo is driving where at 3 am.
will this make the world a better place .. almost certainly not.
but I’m feeling bitter. And this feels vaguely like justice
And its a fantasy …. But sometimes fantasies are necessary if we want to get to sleep at night.
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Musk will pay $1million in fines and continue with business as usual. Nobody with power and money can be held accountable anymore because it's either "political" or the "government bureaus are being used as a weapon".
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