Lawsuit: Images were shared "for the tasteless entertainment of Tesla employees."
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Tesla sued after report that workers shared invasive images from car cameras
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I'm not sure if this extends outside of my state, but here insurance companies and law enforcement are not allowed access to information contained in black boxes without a court order, despite their obvious usefulness in accident investigations. That additional layer of oversight is what's sorely needed here, and in pretty much all other electronic venues.
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I disagree. While it's unclear if the actions by Tesla employees were criminal, it appears likely they constitute a tort, subject to civil damages. (Edit to correct grammar.)
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In the UK, the Information Commissioner has made is clear that dashcam footage is excluded from data controller obligations for individuals' privately owned cars, but that's not true for businesses. Employees who are given a car, or who lease one via a workplace scheme, or small business owners who buy their car through their company books are all within scope of GDPR and their dashcam are treated as surveillance devices. Those businesses become data controllers of the recordings.
Short summary of considerations for businesses here: https://dpnetwork.org.uk/dashcams-gdpr-privacy-implications/
ICO guidance: https://ico.org.uk/for-organisation...d-uk-gdpr-what-small-businesses-need-to-know/
and https://ico.org.uk/for-organisation...ies-other-than-cctv/?q=best+practice#vehicles
I imagine it's similar in the EU, as our data protection laws are aligned.
Short summary of considerations for businesses here: https://dpnetwork.org.uk/dashcams-gdpr-privacy-implications/
ICO guidance: https://ico.org.uk/for-organisation...d-uk-gdpr-what-small-businesses-need-to-know/
and https://ico.org.uk/for-organisation...ies-other-than-cctv/?q=best+practice#vehicles
I imagine it's similar in the EU, as our data protection laws are aligned.
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This, lord all mighty this. I was looking at the new prius prime and the damn thing has a driver facing camera for attentiveness tracking. I don't care if it does seem like the ultimate road trip vehicle, I'm not being watched while I'm driving.
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It defeats a safety feature. Whether I agree with the need for such a feature is not relevant, It is how they built the car. We can certainly debate their design choices.
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Sounds like the OP is worried about being monitored by the camera. There's a simple solution for that, as I noted.
Or - and I know this is anathema to a lot of corporate deep thinkers these days - they could just allow the owner to, you know, turn it off. Or - even worse, from the corporate data-hoovering perspective - keep the data strictly local and don't share it with anyone at all outside of the car.
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I can't think of any situation outside of consent of the car's owner where a court order wouldn't be required in any state. The police would need a warrant under the 4th Amendment's protection against unreasonable search and seizure. And the insurance company would have no right or ability to access the car unless it made a formal request during litigation (for purposes here, the equivalent of a court order).
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* looks back at history *
In what reality are corporations or corporate leaders ever punished to any appreciable degree when doing things that aren't explicitly illegal? (And even then, compared to some minion/peon/peasant doing the same crime, have they ever received sentences directly equivalent to a minion/peon/peasant's sentence? The only one I can think of was Bernie Maddoff. And he ripped off other wealthy people, so of course, they ate their own.)
Doesn't matter if the top is rotted. Until there's a crime, there's no punishment. And even then, the punishment isn't equal to what mere mortals get for the same crimes.
We have three justice systems. one for the poor, one for the wealthy and one for the terrorists. Kind of depends on which circuit you're on.
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Nah. Tesla workers apparently just share stuff for their personal shits and giggles. Tone from the top.
With apologies to people who drank the kool-aid and bought cars no one else can maintain, burn this house to the ground.
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This is the main reason I don't want a Tesla. Some years ago I remember an owner telling me they loved their Tesla, but had this weird moment when they realized if they loaned it anyone, they felt they were basically obligated to warn them that oh by the way, I can see everything you're doing in the app. You're basically consenting to a whole lot of tracking. This was an adult man loaning his car to his teenage girl babysitter. It's pretty weird.
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People affected by whatever corporation should be made whole.. that is they get back what was taken, then people can fight about the rest. I was part of a BofA suit and got $6 check.. they took $1000s by adding a yearly fee but I got $6. Should I have noticed sooner, of course, but I shouldn't have to assume my bank is trying to steal my money.
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And yet the downvoting of people complaining about downvotes is still pretty funny.
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“Cloud.” It’s probably offered as a feature. I imagine if the car is totaled or stolen, you’d want that video in the cloud. It’s too bad Tesla has hired a bunch of untrustworthy jackels who are on the other end.
Still, this honestly isn’t anything different from what I saw when I was working in photography back when people used to drop off film. Terrible management leads to terrible employees who don’t respect customer privacy or property.
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This is not in anyway what that agreement states.
They didn’t agree to any part of this.
You can post this but you look like a fool. Most corporations would fire you immediately if they caught you doing this with customer data.
Care to guess why.
Because the idiot links you posted don’t protect them from dumb employees using customer data for personal memes on internal chat. That is not official company business.
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Downvoting is for whatever reason each person damn well wants to downvote for. It's a comment on an internet forum, big whoop. Or, in the immortal words of the lovable and cuddly Sgt Hulka:
"Lighten up, Francis."
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Sgt Hulke would be my choice for a boss if I wasn't too lazy to go back to work. I doubt he would want me on my squad, though. Both of us are too old for that shit.
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How can you sell the data to brokers if you don’t first collect it?
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It's the violation. I probably haven't had any nudes of me passed around, but I have been groped, and it was a decidedly unpleasant experience despite me suffering no physical harm whatsoever.
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For sure, and some people like myself don't really care much about digital privacy, at least not relative to convenience. I don't even use a pass code on my phone for example.
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My pass code is my face. Unless there is an update, which does happen from time to time, unlike on some platforms.
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I don't think there's a single regulation for anything ever that Elon Musk actually likes, so I'm going to say they probably don't.
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It shocks me anyone would vote this down.
I mean there's this story right here, there were stories about Ring doing similar, Alexa recordings not getting deleted that should never have been stored in the first place.
This kind of pervasive tracking is only getting . . . pervasiver. I just can't imagine anyone who's for it.
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Elon's involved man. You have to wave the flag and explain you don't like him.
No one actually wanted the answer to that question.
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Humans are incapable of playing professional especially when they are given access to other's camera. An offline AI should work just fine and will be professional for tasks Tesla needs human interaction.
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Sometimes class action lawsuits can be more significant. Rodman v Safeway was a great class action lawsuit. I got 129% of what Safeway overcharged me. My checks totaled $344.74. Apparently they gave the impression that in store prices would match delivery prices and they didn't always. Luckily, they also kept records detailing this.
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