Ladapo signed the Great Barrington Declaration and suggests embracing "the reality of viral spread."
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Florida’s new surgeon general skeptical of vaccines, opposes masks
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The person they listed is real, I looked.
https://www.dignitymemorial.com/obituar ... t-10322665
Not my job to say if they knew her or not. I'm not linking her obituary out of any kind of spite, just worth noting the cause of death.
Let's keep the hyperbole out of this, and stick to the facts. I have no tolerance for vaccine misinformation here.
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Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining that the zombie is still around. The complaint is about how someone decided to murder the new deal leaving us in a world mostly without labor unions and other good policies from that period.
You know, the entire plutocratic political philosophy which Ron Desantis advocates for and which lead to this particular asshole becoming Florida's Surgeon General; the one that rejects responsibility as being 'socialist' and which got socialism brought up in this conversation.
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I hope someday he gets waterboarded. And then made to stand crooked in a tiny cage while music is blasting.
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If only Mrs DeSantis would had access to birth control then Florida wouldn't have the problems it does.
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The claim was I've witnessed one person die from getting the J&J vaccine.
So this is clearly the wrong Nanci in Upland CA.
That, or maybe something is a bit suspicious about the poster who claims to be routinely driving by ERs in Jacksonville and Wichita and happened to be chilling with a friend in CA who is one of the 88 people in the US who died after taking this particular vaccine.
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I have Quaker ancestry of one great-great-grandparent and all of her known ancestors between 1650ish and 1840ish were Quakers.
That includes 2 pairs of first cousins who married and whose offspring married, as well as another first cousin pair and a lot of more distant cousins. Iirc, my most repeated ancestor had 6 different paths to my ancestress; though he wasn’t a Quaker, the bulk of his grandchildren in big families were.
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No, but if he did start glowing blue, I don't think anyone would be in the least bit surprised.
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We don't want them. It's just certain members of the cabinet, desperate for a distraction from mishandling of the pandemic, corruption, sex scandals, and general incompetence.
The main achievement of the AUKUS deal so far is to push back when we can expect our first new submarines to arrive, and piss off the French with whom we had just earlier this year confirmed the existing deal for French conventional submarines.
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But how else is Smoko from Marketing expected to quietly get back and forth from Hawaii whilst Australia has its year long bushfire season?
The acting beetroot PM is all for supporting the Federal Attorney General who took a million dollar bribe from foreign powers - which has to be the assumption until he declares who is behind the blind trust - so he could sue the public broadcaster about rape allegations. Allegations that didn’t name him, but he was the only one who put up his hand to say it was himself.
It’s not like they can even blame the previous government for the problems with the French Submarine deal. The Liberal-National coalition parties have been in power since 2013 and the deal was made in 2016. But I’m sure it was Labour’s fault.
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So does this mean that Trump supporters will start getting vaccinated to "own the libs", and that a Breitbart conspiracy theory will... save a lot of lives?
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Well, it was Malcolm Turnbull, so near enough to the ALP.
Besides, I don't know if the Failed Marketing Executive-in-Chief would want to travel in a submarine. He seems perfectly happy to fly around in planes, after getting special permission to do so. After all, who knew he was in the US this week?
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Hmm. You set up an account just to post that. One wonders if you work in that department...
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I can. I can blame them thusly: They don't live by themselves alone in a bubble. Their 'personal liberty' ends when they live with everyone else, breathe on everyone else, cough on everyone else. IF they live in this nation, and wave the flag of this nation and yell USA! USA! USA! that means they FUCKING LIVE with OTHER AMERICANS who deserve to have a chance at living with others who fucking take responsibility of living in that society.
MOST People don't drive 40MPH through red lights. MOST people don't touch pieces of metal that a sign warns them DO NOT TOUCH 40,000 FUCKING VOLTS.
MOST people don't drive 100 fucking miles an hour up hairpin turns on a mountain side.
You know why? Because people who do that are called 'Assholes'. You know what else we call them?
'Dead Assholes'.
So, you can hardly blame them? Well, come to think of it, let 'em have their 'freedom/personal liberty stand'. They can have it all day long until they fucking croak.
Who gives a shit?
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I heard that Starbucks Pumpkin Spice syrup protects you from COVID, bit you need to administer it rectally.
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So, this comparison doesn't work. After all, 1918 was before the invention of most of modern medicine. As a result, you are comparing apples to oranges. The reality is that, back in 1918, we didn't have intubation, we didn't even have oxygen treatment, and we certainly didn't have miracle drugs. As a result of this difference in ability to treat, Covid would have been many times more deadly. So given the scales of these unknowns, comparing the numbers directly is surprisingly reasonable. Modern medicine has reduced the probability of death from such diseases by an order of magnitude, one probably larger than the population differences.
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Please don't spread this useless, irresponsible disinformation.
Tell them "Hey, did you hear? They're putting vaccine in cattle! Giving the shots to the cows, man! You want to get that in your beef?"
Watch as a big chunk of America slims down and does something good for the environment at the same time. If you're gonna lie, at least do it for a good cause or two.
Make sure not to intimate that this is routine livestock vaccination. Let them think it's THE Vaccine(s).
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Ah, Soriak is here. I see he's perfected the "Al Gore is Fat" riposte but it's about mask mandates now.
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And if you're vaccinated you stand a good chance of avoiding the ICU and a tube shoved down your throat.
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Pro Tip: Don't reply to morons. It wastes everyone's time and encourages the moron.
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Apparently these guys export to France and UK:
https://www.maple-flavour.com/Whiskey-a ... -6_20.html
Probably you can find another distributor in the US?
There's enough alcohol in there to bring the syrup intranasally through the back of the throat. Plus, as shown above, ethanol is also protective per oral. So this offers double protection.
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And the 'sensible middle ground' is not engaging the one outside the middle ground.
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From the Idaho thread:
“ Of the patients hospitalized with COVID-19, 90 percent are unvaccinated, as are 98 percent of ICU patients.”
That is a state which is almost 50/50 vaccinated/unvaccinated (41% fully vaccinated).
So roughly fifty times more likely ending up in the ICU. Now the more people who vaccinate the less total amount of cases and of those less and less extreme outcomes. So it isn’t a simple case of saying a 90% reduction in risk for the individual when exposed, you have to include how many are vaccinated overall to figure out the chance of exposure too.
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Ah now you've done it. You gave the 'sensible middle ground' to the one who couldn't give two shits about any middle ground, sensible or otherwise.
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Many schools hire someone with a bee in their bonnet, and after years of failing to prove it, that prof gets ornery and cantankerous and no one likes their class, and no grad student really wants to work with them, but by then they have tenure. There is always a company out there willing to
Also for certain types of lawyers, but getting into that would be off topic.
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So, contrary to his claim, she died from the actual Covid virus, and not from the vaccine (iirc, he even named the particular vaccine).
That seems like a pretty basic mistake to make about how one's own friend died, doesn't it? Especially for someone with an actual, specific interest in the subject.
I'm not finding this guy to be at all credible.
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Opposing arguments:
Get vaccinated when you get the opportunity,
Don’t get vaccinated if you have medical contraindications.
Hence the middle ground is if you cannot get the vaccine due to medical reasons encourage those who can, so they can protect both themselves and yourself.
Not part of the balanced argument:
Individuals whose choices harm themselves and others.
Adults are responsible for their choices including choosing propaganda over critical thinking.
Edit: clarification
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It happened today. My kid, in a school with mandatory masks indoors, was outside and a fellow student told him to take his mask off. "It's okay," my kid said.
"But we're outside and you don't need it."
"I'd rather wear it than get sick," said my six-year-old, and went to play with somebody else. Without scaring him or lecturing him, we told him we were glad he made the choice to stay safe, reinforced his decision to walk away--and made sure he knew if he felt bullied about it to talk to his teacher.
"But we're outside and you don't need it."
"I'd rather wear it than get sick," said my six-year-old, and went to play with somebody else. Without scaring him or lecturing him, we told him we were glad he made the choice to stay safe, reinforced his decision to walk away--and made sure he knew if he felt bullied about it to talk to his teacher.
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It's much, much worse than that - Scomo and his buddies apparently reassured France about the subs deal the day of the AUKUS announcement - France has an absolute right to be pissed, the only real questions are how big a diplomatic spat will result, and for how long.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-22/ ... /100481322
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I’ll see your maple syrup whiskey and raise you lobster ice cream.
Though the website seems to have some bitrot, the store most definitely still has it as of this weekend.
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At least a third of them have boners for Armageddon. I just can't believe this shi!'s really happening.
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Your statement is, how to put it, misleading as fuuuuck.
Sure, it's true that obesity is the single largest comorbidity to covid-19 deaths. And?
It's also the single biggest comorbidity to just about Every. Other. Cause. Of. Death. Influenza. Cancer. Heart attacks. Gun violence. Dysentery. You name it. You died? Chances are you were fat (at least in most western countries, and certainly in the US).
Only in a few cases does being fat cause you to die of that thing. In the case of covid, it's a non-factor. It's like saying the car was white when describing the scene of a car accident. About 20% of vehicles involved in accidents are white. Are you also suggesting that banning white cars would reduce vehicle accidents by 20%? Because that's pretty much the equivalent of what you're suggesting. People aren't dying of covid because they're fat. They're dying of covid because they got covid.
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That is precisely the logic that supports universal vaccination. But that isn't why Ladapo was appointed. Since you mention the UK, this is the plan for the coming months. Get vaccinated if you aren't already, a booster if offered, a flu innoculation as well, take precautions against infection and expect further controls if things get much worse.
Because if we cannot eradicate the virus, we have to minimise the chances of becoming seriously ill as a result, reduce the pressure on health services which will be kept busy as a result of the pandemic, and reduce viral loads so that we have a chance to build immunity over time. Maintaining a healthy weight and taking exercise are not inconsistent with that, far from it, but they are hardly central.
If Lapado can persuade De Santos of the good sense of all that and convey the message clearly to Florida's residents well and good. But do you suggest that the governor would have made the appointment if Lapado had said that at interview?
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