Ladapo signed the Great Barrington Declaration and suggests embracing "the reality of viral spread."
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Florida’s new surgeon general skeptical of vaccines, opposes masks
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Sure, after decades. I think they had outbreaks for more than 100 years, but, ok. i think, if they are going this way, they need to close their border
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So, they have decided to give up on 5-10% of their population. Sadly, herd immunity may be a pipedream, based on the Spanish Study of antibodies
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i suspect most bigger businesses in Florida will install mandates for their employees if they haven't already.
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If only their stupidity/hubris only led to their own deaths, but it also kills the innocent and the wise. :-(
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Good ole Gov. DeSantis. The fucking idiot that think he is white, and is only a thing in politics so that others can go "See, I have a Spanish friend. I am not racist"
Ever since he has been in office, my bills have done nothing but gone up. He go fuck himself along with the rest in the state gov.
Ever since he has been in office, my bills have done nothing but gone up. He go fuck himself along with the rest in the state gov.
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DeSantis hired this guy ONLY as a shield to deflect the criticism being leveled at him about his plans to callously kill as many of his citizens as is required in a naked display of psychopathic greed and ambition to become President of the United States, by any means necessary. His Foreign Funding is almost unlimited and the MSM is already lined up to support his run.
With Lunatic Ladapo as his Surgeon General running interference for him, he can now turn 100% of his time to running for President of the United States, which he has promised the members of the American Taliban (and the Chamber of Commerce) will become The Republic of Gilead under his iron-fisted rule.
Under a President DeSantis:
The Democratic Party will be declared a "Terrorist Organization" and all members will be executed/imprisoned.
Got Sick? Pray Away the Cancer. It's "God's Will", and it's proof you are a bad person for getting sick.
Workers getting Unruly demanding more pay and better working conditions? Send in the Militarized Police to beat, arrest, and shoot them dead until they get back to work.
Climate Change flooding your cities? It's all "Fake News" and "Antifa"s fault.
Foreign Countries threatening your company's off-shore sweat shops with regulations/taxes? The US Military will overthrow the government and help you to crush all dissent.
Hate the idea of YOUR MONEY going to the "Those People" and them getting any help at all from Government? DeSantis will get rid of Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and SNAP and cut Corporate and Capital Gains taxes to Zero (as long as he gets a "cut" of your profits.)
Want a White, Chrisio-Fascist Theocracy in the USA? DeSantis will make it happen as long as he gets to be President for Life (and gets a "cut" of your profits.)
Believe in "Science", "Education", and "Rational Thought"? DeSantis will demonize you and send the mobs with pitchforks and torches to drag you out of your "Ivory Tower" and lynch you while chanting "USA! USA! USA!".
The American Flag will be changed. The 50 Stars will be rearranged as a Cross on the blue background to celebrate the Congressionally Mandated Constitutional Amendment declaring Christianity the official Religion of the United States of America and a requirement to serve in any Civil, Judicial, or Political position.
Women will be excluded from all Civil, Judicial, and Political positions. Jesus says their primary job is to look good and make White Christian Babies while cooking for their husbands. Not to tell the Men folk what to do.
Think it can't happen here? Then you are a fool who is not paying attention.
With Lunatic Ladapo as his Surgeon General running interference for him, he can now turn 100% of his time to running for President of the United States, which he has promised the members of the American Taliban (and the Chamber of Commerce) will become The Republic of Gilead under his iron-fisted rule.
Under a President DeSantis:
The Democratic Party will be declared a "Terrorist Organization" and all members will be executed/imprisoned.
Got Sick? Pray Away the Cancer. It's "God's Will", and it's proof you are a bad person for getting sick.
Workers getting Unruly demanding more pay and better working conditions? Send in the Militarized Police to beat, arrest, and shoot them dead until they get back to work.
Climate Change flooding your cities? It's all "Fake News" and "Antifa"s fault.
Foreign Countries threatening your company's off-shore sweat shops with regulations/taxes? The US Military will overthrow the government and help you to crush all dissent.
Hate the idea of YOUR MONEY going to the "Those People" and them getting any help at all from Government? DeSantis will get rid of Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and SNAP and cut Corporate and Capital Gains taxes to Zero (as long as he gets a "cut" of your profits.)
Want a White, Chrisio-Fascist Theocracy in the USA? DeSantis will make it happen as long as he gets to be President for Life (and gets a "cut" of your profits.)
Believe in "Science", "Education", and "Rational Thought"? DeSantis will demonize you and send the mobs with pitchforks and torches to drag you out of your "Ivory Tower" and lynch you while chanting "USA! USA! USA!".
The American Flag will be changed. The 50 Stars will be rearranged as a Cross on the blue background to celebrate the Congressionally Mandated Constitutional Amendment declaring Christianity the official Religion of the United States of America and a requirement to serve in any Civil, Judicial, or Political position.
Women will be excluded from all Civil, Judicial, and Political positions. Jesus says their primary job is to look good and make White Christian Babies while cooking for their husbands. Not to tell the Men folk what to do.
Think it can't happen here? Then you are a fool who is not paying attention.
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DeSantis reminds me of what the Hamburglar would look like if he grew up and went into politics.
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What would happen is that a community would reach the point where the plague burned itself out, but any given community would years receive another wave which would burn itself out. This would rinse and repeat for centuries.
It is possible communities would temporarily reach herd immunity, but quickly drop below it as children were born and people died. It is also possible that the waves of the plague burned out for other reasons. We just don't know.
It is very possible the only reason why the plague stopped coming back is that this version altered us to be more resistant to the plague.
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IPAK is bullshit.
https://www.politifact.com/factchec...shared-facebook-inflates-risk-moderna-vaccin/
https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/james-lyons-weiler-coronavirus-conspiracy-vaccine/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Lyons-Weiler
Don't use VAERs that way.
https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid-19-critical-thinking-health/dont-fall-vaers-scare-tactic
https://www.factcheck.org/2021/03/s...to-make-false-claims-about-covid-19-vaccines/
https://www.npr.org/sections/health...l-database-to-spread-fear-about-covid-vaccine
Believe in actual science, not Facebook pablum. Get the shots and wear a mask.
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Keep in mind bubonic plague is a bacterial infection, not a viral. It's not treated with vaccines, it's treated with antibiotics or - oddly - social distancing (to mitigate spread).
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Aw geez. Remember the Demon Sperm lady doctor spouting her gibberish that Trump thought was "very impressive?"
She was the mouthpiece for a scam called America's Frontline Doctors.
Ladapo is part of all that. That is his qualification to be Florida's Surgeon General.
What a sick fucking joke.
She was the mouthpiece for a scam called America's Frontline Doctors.
Ladapo is part of all that. That is his qualification to be Florida's Surgeon General.
What a sick fucking joke.
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Between December 2020 and July 19th, 2021, VAERS received 6,207 reports of death (0.0018% of doses) among people who got a vaccine, but this does not mean the vaccine caused these deaths. Doctors and safety monitors carefully review the details of each case to see if it might be linked to the vaccine. There are three deaths that appear to be linked to blood clots that occurred after people got the J&J vaccine. Since we now know how to correctly treat people who develop these blood clots, future deaths related to this very rare side effect can be prevented.
After careful review of the additional data, doctors have decided that there is no evidence at all that the vaccines contributed to the other patient deaths. Nonetheless, the CDC and FDA will continue to investigate every single report of death (and other adverse events) reported to VAERS.
By way of comparison, getting COVID-19 while unvaccinated poses a grave risk; as of July 23, 2021, more than 610,000 deaths have been attributed to the virus in the US alone. Not everyone who dies while having COVID is counted towards this total. Suppose someone who tested positive for COVID-19 was killed in a car accident. The car accident would be the cause of death. This person would be counted as having “died with” COVID, not as having “died of” COVID.
Unless "Nanci" was one of the three who died from the J&J shot, you did not witness someone dying from the vaccine. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you don't understand causation as opposed to correlation, as opposed to simply lying, but given your posting history I'm leaning toward lying troll.
Fun fact - I've been a total of 3 car accidents - in 100% of those accidents I've consumed a Coke or a coffee within 90 minutes of said accident. Clearly caffeine contributed to the accident, I mean 100% CORRELATION, AM I RITE?!?!
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There is no "belief" in science - science works whether we believe it or not. Belief is for religion - religion only works if you believe it. We use the scientific method* because it works every time - no "belief" required.
*note that science is a process, not simply a body of knowledge.
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My favorite to go with that is "life is an STD/STI with a %100 mortality rate"
its true, but not considered cause of death technically.
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"but my taxes!!!" - common rebuttal from a republican's
"i work hard for my money and only the republicans vow to cut taxes"
I hate to call them a fool for believing them at this point, since most politicians lie, but theres a clear party who is morally bankrupt.
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Florida has a Waiver of Sovereign Immunity Act, Florida Statutes §768.28. The law waives sovereign immunity for personal injuries in a limited way. There is a $200,000 limit on any claim, with a cap of $300,000 for all claims arising out of the same event. That means in cases where several people are hurt or killed, there will be a total limit of $300,000.
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Just a reminder, GameOvR is the same dipshit who claims to drive by 2 empty ERs in Wichita daily. Still hasn't provided proof.
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Correct and people contract it from being bitten by fleas that have bitten infected rodents. We didn't be become 'more resistant', we became cleaner and more intolerant to having rodents everywhere. FYI: prairie dogs carry plague.
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Since Dr. Ladapo knows that masks don't work, and assuming he's unvaccinated due to the clear and present risks posed by the vaccines, he should go on a tour of Florida's ICUs and explain all this to the doctors in there. He shouldn't wear a mask of course, since viruses spread anyways (as he pointed out to the WSJ), and this shouldn't be a problem at all, since he will be contributing to the objective of reaching herd immunity. In case he gets COVID (unlikely since he certainly exercises and eats his veggies), the doctors will be more than happy to shove a cocktail of hydroxycloroquine and ivermectine up his ass (I mean, those were the instructions in the package they picked up at the farm supply store).
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Your reasons are all good. I have to add that I enjoy the intelligent, evidence based, often witty and occasionally brutal take downs of those like the OP. I have found the Ars forum to be a unique combination of participatory entertainment and education.
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"To be clear, while losing weight, exercising, and eating fruits and vegetables are generally good for health, they will not prevent SARS-CoV-2 infection or transmission."
My favorite part of the article!
My favorite part of the article!
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Does anyone else think we need to help Florida develop an immunity to hurricanes?
The next time one hits, let's donate our funds to help people in those Florida communities that have high vaccination rates. The people in those communities believe in the social contract, doing things (like getting vaccinated) to help others. So let's help them improve their homes' resistance to hurricanes when they rebuild.
People in low vaccination rate communities will eventually develop herd immunity to hurricanes, right? After all after enough times of Mother Nature huffing and puffing and blowing their homes down they'll hit upon a home design that can resist the winds and potentially have enough money to build such a home.
The next time one hits, let's donate our funds to help people in those Florida communities that have high vaccination rates. The people in those communities believe in the social contract, doing things (like getting vaccinated) to help others. So let's help them improve their homes' resistance to hurricanes when they rebuild.
People in low vaccination rate communities will eventually develop herd immunity to hurricanes, right? After all after enough times of Mother Nature huffing and puffing and blowing their homes down they'll hit upon a home design that can resist the winds and potentially have enough money to build such a home.
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But my best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who heard from the Certified Juice Specialist lady on Facebook that it would!
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Covid and Trump have made it abundantly clear that the Republican party is morally bankrupt. But they've always been morally bankrupt, insofar as they've traditionally supported systemic stripping of human dignity via labor exploitation, opposed the empowerment of workers, maintained wage slavery, and promoted aggressive, Darwinian capitalism in which unsustainable acquisitiveness is a virtue.
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Deaths per 100,000 population, over the entire pandemic:
New York: 280
Florida: 242
California: 173
Current death rate per 100,000 per day:
NY: 0.18
FL: 1.75
CA: 0.30
(from https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... cases.html ). Florida is already well past California in aggregate death toll and given the current surge might well catch up with (hammered flat at the very beginning of the pandemic) New York (and in any event I'd hardly call the current toll of 14% less than NY as "much lower").
Troll harder. Or at least try, anyway.
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It's not just about preventing deaths, it also prevents long term covid effects. This causes more medical expenses and debt. Then there are less people willing to work in the medical field causing more delays in treatment, eventually more deaths, because some patients think they can abuse health care workers. Who would want to work in this kind of enviornment?
Prepare for more difficult mutations from Florida.
This is never going away. People will. Sadly, more people need to die. The Desantis death cult will prevail.
Prepare for more difficult mutations from Florida.
This is never going away. People will. Sadly, more people need to die. The Desantis death cult will prevail.
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My logical, rational response is that you have a lot of cognitive dissonance to work out and some self-actualization over our responsibilities to society that outweigh our own wants.
I signed up for the vaccine the day it was available to me - I also alerted anyone I know within the state that it was now available. And I helped a few get themselves signed up. I also push for vaccines whenever asked or the topic comes up, as it is the only viable way of controlling and curbing the disease both for yourself and those around you, including those not family or even acquaintances.
Before it was opened up to the general population after both testing it on adult age groups and vaccinating the elderly and otherwise vulnerable populations, I could understand the "foreign object in body" argument. But this is flawed for several reasons:
One, it was heavily tested before being made available to you, negating the foreign object argument. You aren't the test bed for the population - that was already done.
Two, vaccination mandates arent new; I mentioned tge Revolutionary War era, along with the 1905 court decision that confirmed the legality of mandated vaccinations. The Individualist argument fails here, as the government already has the power to compel vaccination during public health emergencies.
Third, the social contract is dead because of the extreme individualism that makes up far too high a percentage of the American populace. You argued that we essentially havent had one, but I beg to differ. There have been events in history that bring a society together to effect change. Think of WWII, where we suffered rationing as a society in order to maintain the war effort and defeat a meth-addled (source) crazy Nazi military. We came together, bought war bonds, grew our little Victory Gardens, and increased our proportion of working women in order to fuel both the war machine and the local economies.
So, with all that being said, how is a "Got Mine, screw the rest of y'all" mentality healthy for any society? How is the conclusion of COVID-19 going to happen without the unnecessary deaths we are actively sustaining? We have way too high of a proportion of the US that is actively refusing the vaccine or resisting at any possible cost, directly leading to continual spread and unneeded death. That, inandof itself, is not logical for the health of any society.
Edit: due to quote limits by Ars, I badly deleted the earlier comments and lost the specific link and username info. Being bad at coding, I'm not gonna accidentally wreck the post with formatting garbage. My apologies; I am not trying to remove you from the conversation with that.
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Well, to be fair, at this point, they are really willing sacrifices since across the US anyone can just about get a vaccine dose everywhere. Every corner drugstore; pharmacy; hell probably even at a weed shop or gas station.
If someone isn't getting vaccinated by choice and they catch COVID that's kind of on them (short of those that medically cannot receive a vaccination). Kind of akin to a smoker complaining about getting lung cancer.
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Wonder what kind of job he has that puts him in both Wichita, Kansas and Jacksonville, Florida as a resident.
Obviously, the answer is “misinformation specialist in St. Petersburg, Russia.”
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Social distancing the way we practice it for COVID-19 would only be viable against the airborn version. The social distancing version didn't tend to work well because of the fact that we had animal carriers that were probably about impossible to get away from with the way food would have been stored.
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That's interesting, given his "here in Jacksonville" statement about De Santis.
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