And it gets weirder. I wonder if TV will ever be ready for a truly hard sci-fi show?Just... please... for the love of all that is holy... no more weird metaphysical bullshit.
Just give me some god damn good sci-fi.
The Expanse totes that line...
The Expanse has blue crystal vomit zombies and meteors that self-propel without ejecting mass...
I love it, I do, but it is dipping into the weird for sure at the point I'm at (near end of season 2.)
Yeah, I feel the blue crystal zombie b plot is just not necessary... The world building of the Expanse is totally enough to keep me engaged... The Political intrigue and acting is excellent... The characters, for the most part, were/are fantastic (but get lost in the b plot)...
It is enough sci-fi for me to have the magic propulsion that still sortta kinda fits in with basic laws of physics, even if the mechanism is beyond realistic thermodynamics...
It is the same way I feel about GoT not needing the Time Travel (TM) business... It made for 1 amazing sceen in 1 episode, but wrecked the organic nature of how the series was progressing as a whole...
There is a whole list of shows whose non-supernatural plot-line was sufficient to carry the stories... (Witchblade is another that comes to mind... The corrupt cop plot line didn't need a magical sword, it was still a good series without it...)
I think you're looking for Quantum Leap, the first TV series which has a multi-season plot.You misspelled "The Sopranos".Battlestar Galactica, which arguably launched the current era of plot arc-heavy, short-season dramas that now defines prestige TV, is coming back. Again.
I think you're looking for Babylon 5, the first TV series which has a multi-season plot.
Oh come on. Can we have a Babylon 5 reboot instead?
I want Space Precinct 2040! No one even remembers that one! Perfect for creative freedom.
I greatly enjoyed the 2004 series even with the downturns it took along the way. How many times has a series ended in a way that satisfies all viewers? Answer: 0
And it gets weirder. I wonder if TV will ever be ready for a truly hard sci-fi show?Just... please... for the love of all that is holy... no more weird metaphysical bullshit.
Just give me some god damn good sci-fi.
The Expanse totes that line...
The Expanse has blue crystal vomit zombies and meteors that self-propel without ejecting mass...
I love it, I do, but it is dipping into the weird for sure at the point I'm at (near end of season 2.)
Yeah, I feel the blue crystal zombie b plot is just not necessary... The world building of the Expanse is totally enough to keep me engaged... The Political intrigue and acting is excellent... The characters, for the most part, were/are fantastic (but get lost in the b plot)...
It is enough sci-fi for me to have the magic propulsion that still sortta kinda fits in with basic laws of physics, even if the mechanism is beyond realistic thermodynamics...
It is the same way I feel about GoT not needing the Time Travel (TM) business... It made for 1 amazing sceen in 1 episode, but wrecked the organic nature of how the series was progressing as a whole...
There is a whole list of shows whose non-supernatural plot-line was sufficient to carry the stories... (Witchblade is another that comes to mind... The corrupt cop plot line didn't need a magical sword, it was still a good series without it...)
That ain't the B plot of The Expanse. That's the arc plot. Without the zombies you don't get the gate and without the gate you don't get whatever killed the gate builders.
The original script was indeed 5 season, but JMS was forced to cram them in 4, since there was a rumor that the show was going to be cancelled (pulling this from memory, will confirm later), then after he did that, he got the green light for what we now call season 5.
If we're not done mining my childhood for Sci Fi TV show reboots then may I respectfully submit Buck Rogers? Please? My love for Colonel Deering is unrequited.
Personally I'd like to seeFlashFlesh Gordon redone.
The writing was good throughout.
The controversy was when they wrote stories that were paralleling current events. Two things especially come to mind. In the season where cylons captured most of humanity:
1. the humans (good guys) used suicide bombers to revolt against cylons and at the time in the real world suicide bombing used against US occupation of Iraq was being called terrorism. People didnt like it when shown the viewpoint of the other side.
2. Then cylons used torture to try to get information and were shown to be monsters, while many in the US were in favor of torture against anyone we call terrorist or might be a terrorist. People didnt like it when it was shown that what they were supporting was monsterous.
Did the writers claim that was their intention, because the Cylon's kamikaze'd there ships (suicide) and the humans both 'spaced' (executed) Cylon prisoners and raped the Cylon 6 to break her will.
edit: half ninja'd by henryhbk
Thats not the point though.
There's no point in defending the cylons. They were indisputably portrayed as monstrous, and this is where many had a hard time with the show. Even if you can find a way to see the cylon's side of it, many saw these episodes as a slap in the face as far as their own political beliefs.
Can a machine operating with no emotion and incapable of empathy due to the choices of its creators be considered monstrous though? I mean if a machine is following its predefined programming then who is the monster? The machine or the one that created it? Keeping in mind that Cavill and the others weren’t some evolutionary step within the cylon factories/growth. They were expressly engineered by the final five. So really it is the final five that were the monsters.
J. Micheal Strazincsky (spelling) won't let it happen.
Anyone remember the failed spinoff of orginal battlestar ?
Set on modern earth with vipers that transformed into motorcycles ?
Anyone remember the failed spinoff of orginal battlestar ?
Set on modern earth with vipers that transformed into motorcycles ?
That's the horrible "Galactica 1980" I mentioned earlier. If you can forget it, you should.
Oh come on. Can we have a Babylon 5 reboot instead?
Oh come on. Can we have a Babylon 5 reboot instead?
Can we have brand new sci fi stories rather than rebooted ones?
Anyone remember the failed spinoff of orginal battlestar ?
Set on modern earth with vipers that transformed into motorcycles ?
That's the horrible "Galactica 1980" I mentioned earlier. If you can forget it, you should.
Yeah thankfully only vaguely recall it.
Except it seemed even more christian subplot heavy .. And my brain keeps falsely casting donny Osman and the blond guy from chips in the leads.. At least i hope its false.
Also, Olmos is Bill Adama. I can't see anyone else pull off that character like he did.
Anyone remember the failed spinoff of orginal battlestar ?
Set on modern earth with vipers that transformed into motorcycles ?
So how long before they're rebooting shows that haven't even ended yet?
Actually, the question is "how long before they're rebooting shows that haven't even started yet"...![]()
Those choices did not come from the writing staff or the showrunners -- the network execs kept tripping over everyone mandating how the show needs to go.The original Battlestar Galactica was on the air for all of one season, running from fall 1978 to spring 1979. A 2003 miniseries revisiting the core concept—robots called Cylons are coming to kill us all, and that's Very Bad—served as the backdoor pilot to an eventual four-season run on the SyFy basic cable network (then called Sci Fi). The reboot series, which ran from 2004 to 2008, proved divisive among fans, inspiring passionate responses to both undeniably strong and extremely questionable writing choices throughout its run.
I greatly enjoyed the 2004 series even with the downturns it took along the way. How many times has a series ended in a way that satisfies all viewers? Answer: 0
Babylon 5.
Oh, sure, plenty of complaints about season 5, but I've not heard anyone complain about the ending.
The ending for B5 is and always will be season 4 episode 22 The Deconstruction of Falling Stars which should be watched after season 5 episode 22 Sleeping in Light.
The original script was indeed 5 season, but JMS was forced to cram them in 4, since there was a rumor that the show was going to be cancelled (pulling this from memory, will confirm later), then after he did that, he got the green light for what we now call season 5.
"Starbuck will be a T?"
What do you mean by T?
The first 3 seasons of the Ronald Moore BSG were brilliant.nBSG started strong. The miniseries showed promise and season 1 was incredible. Season 2 was very good as was the first part of Season 3. But Ron Moore ran out of ideas at the end of season 2, and so there was no direction. The Cylons never had a plan.
I think you're looking for Quantum Leap, the first TV series which has a multi-season plot.You misspelled "The Sopranos".Battlestar Galactica, which arguably launched the current era of plot arc-heavy, short-season dramas that now defines prestige TV, is coming back. Again.
I think you're looking for Babylon 5, the first TV series which has a multi-season plot.
(I assume this is turtles all the way down).
J. Micheal Strazincsky (spelling) won't let it happen. he has control of the IP and as such is actively blocking such attempts.Oh come on. Can we have a Babylon 5 reboot instead?
While it saddens me to know that B5 won't be rendered in high quality productions it makes me happy to know that a cheap rip off also won't happen.
J. Micheal Strazincsky (spelling) won't let it happen. he has control of the IP and as such is actively blocking such attempts.Oh come on. Can we have a Babylon 5 reboot instead?
While it saddens me to know that B5 won't be rendered in high quality productions it makes me happy to know that a cheap rip off also won't happen.
Its worse than that. JMS has movie rights and WB has TV rights and refuses to sell to JMS.
Who has the streaming rights to the franchise? I think it would be possible to go streaming only like the newer star treks and I guess the orville is now.