Battlestar Galactica reboot to get new reboot from Mr. Robot creator

dorkbert

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Will the Cylons be hot this time?

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... like this?
 
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JohnCarter17

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Oh come on. Can we have a Babylon 5 reboot instead?
J. Micheal Strazincsky (spelling) won't let it happen. he has control of the IP and as such is actively blocking such attempts.

While it saddens me to know that B5 won't be rendered in high quality productions it makes me happy to know that a cheap rip off also won't happen.

I thought he was open to the idea with a new cast but it would require significant funding for him to sign off on it. Last I heard, his ideal was a series of movies though I'm not sure how he'd fit the narrative of the TV into a much more compressed for the theater time. I won't say that that is impossible as he has proven to be remarkably adaptive in terms of scheduling and scripting but much of the soul of Babylon 5 is in the B and C plots of an episode. Focusing on the A plots I feel would make the such a remake feel generic.

Wait, wait, unless I recall incorrectly, JMS has been more than interested in doing a proper clean up of the material for Blueray/4K release and WB, more specific, someone at WB that seems to have some kind of vendetta with JMS, is actively blocking this and the same applies to anything else TV related, like reboots.

Let me see if I can find that link.

I thought that the effects masters were lost, so that any cleanup would require redoing the effects. The rest of the material can be remastered though.
 
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One of my favorite things about BSG is that, with the exception of the FTL jumps, there is just about nothing* on screen that looks like “special effects”. Nobody’s got laser guns, teleporters, etc. I found that so refreshing for a space opera.

*With the exception of the thing where 6’s spine glows when she gets off, that I was so glad they backed away from.
Although the ending was pretty much "magic did it".

prophesies, gods, angels, etc
And Cylons themselves weren't always the most grounded concept. But I do agree that both BSG and The Expanse have for the most part been much closer to science than magic than many other space operas.
 
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***Spoilers ahead if you haven't finished the series yet.

Two of the best scenes IMHO in sci-fi ever in the last BSG.

1) The Galactica dropping into the atmosphere, launching vipers and FTL'n the heck out of dodge.

2) The final jump that breaks the Galactica's back.

+1 for the Adama Maneuver.
 
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I personally want to see the rest of Caprica.
Not interested in a reboot of the reboot.

Can they really not come up with something original and appealing at NBC/Universal/Peacock?

Anyways, thanks for making science fiction but I would like NBC/Universal to do me and the artists and all science fiction fans a favor, and promise that if you decide to cancel your new original shows, that you at least produce a proper ending to the product so that the viewers and artists and producers are not all turned into victims like Netflix has taken to doing when destroying its own costly products forever.

Thanks.

I am serious, BTW.
 
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irnoob

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Oh come on. Can we have a Babylon 5 reboot instead?
J. Micheal Strazincsky (spelling) won't let it happen. he has control of the IP and as such is actively blocking such attempts.

While it saddens me to know that B5 won't be rendered in high quality productions it makes me happy to know that a cheap rip off also won't happen.


Its worse than that. JMS has movie rights and WB has TV rights and refuses to sell to JMS.

Who has the streaming rights to the franchise? I think it would be possible to go streaming only like the newer star treks and I guess the orville is now.
 
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***Spoilers ahead if you haven't finished the series yet.

Two of the best scenes IMHO in sci-fi ever in the last BSG.

1) The Galactica dropping into the atmosphere, launching vipers and FTL'n the heck out of dodge.

2) The final jump that breaks the Galactica's back.

And observing The Pegasus kicking all kinds of ass.....

Damn you Lee.....
 
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kvndoom

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What good is the copyright system if it doesn't protect us from rehashing the same material within even a 12 year window? Come on. Try something new.
Hey did you hear about 2021's "The Suicide Squad"? It's a reboot of 2016's "Suicide Squad." Why wait 12 years when you can do it in 5, right? ;)
 
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Nobody:
NBC: Let's reboot BSG.

How does this meme work? If "nobody" doesn't ask for this, aren't they actually asking for it. Would it be more appropriate for it to be "Everyone"? With that being left blank, it would imply that Everyone is not asking for this, which seems to be the intent, right?
 
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As long as this isn't a *remake* of the 2004 BSG (which would be nuts) I'm optimistic to see what new setting they adopt to extend the 2004 BSG universe. The 2004 BSG was the survivors fleet we knew about. Were there others? Where did they end up? What events took place on colonies other than Caprica post-apocalypse? Do some survivors build a new AI and build their own army to fight back? There's a whole Handmaid's Tale angle that could be explored too as the Cylons tried to copulate and produce hybrids.
 
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woodelf

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Oh come on. Can we have a Babylon 5 reboot instead?
J. Micheal Strazincsky (spelling) won't let it happen. he has control of the IP and as such is actively blocking such attempts.

While it saddens me to know that B5 won't be rendered in high quality productions it makes me happy to know that a cheap rip off also won't happen.

Well, it would be more accurate to say he won't let it happen without his involvement. He has himself championed doing a movie-length version of the story and some sort of reboot/retelling. But I also don't see any point in a reboot. And I totally agree that I don't want to see those characters played by different actors. Now, a prequel or sequel? Yes! Reboot Crusade and let it run its course! Or, throw some money at re-rendering the special effects at 4K and widscreen and re-release B5 in highdef. WB has consistently refused to do anything to make money with B5, despite the Lost Tales and sales of the original DVDs showing that even if they had to do a ground-up reconstruction like CBS had to with ST:TOS (and the work for B5 should be much less than that), the market is there to recoup its costs and make money.

But, from everything I've heard, WB is by far the bigger obstacle to new B5 than JMS is.

as just one example: https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/a-babylon ... traczynski
 
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Oh come on. Can we have a Babylon 5 reboot instead?
J. Micheal Strazincsky (spelling) won't let it happen. he has control of the IP and as such is actively blocking such attempts.

While it saddens me to know that B5 won't be rendered in high quality productions it makes me happy to know that a cheap rip off also won't happen.


Its worse than that. JMS has movie rights and WB has TV rights and refuses to sell to JMS.

I loved B5, but any reboot wouldn't do it justice. Leave my memories of the Sheridan and Delenne, the Shadows and Vorlons, Molari and G'Kar, Sinclair and B4, Garibaldi, Ivanova, and the psi-corps alone.

I would, however, be interested in a Crusade follow-up. That series needed some work, but it showed promise.

As for BSG, the original was campy but entertaining. The reboot that followed was dark, and still entertaining, but the writers wrote themselves into a dark corner with no satisfying out.

A re-reboot of BSG? With a focus on our modern times? Uh... our current reality is too weird and painful. I want to escape reality for an hour, not re-live it.
 
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nBSG started strong. The miniseries showed promise and season 1 was incredible. Season 2 was very good as was the first part of Season 3. But Ron Moore ran out of ideas at the end of season 2, and so there was no direction. The Cylons never had a plan.

Sam Esmail, the man with a vision. In charge of BSG. This has serious promise.

I really liked S1 and S2, and how it kept up the tension and paranoia of Cylon attacks and insider sabatoge. But S3 and S4 came really close to, and possibly even entered, jump the shark territory with all of the mysticism and completely unexplained phenomena. It kind of came together towards the middle of S4, but by then I was only watching "to see the end" rather than because the story held my interest.

Which is unfortunate, because I really liked the cast and they all did a phenomenal job and played their roles really well.
 
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The writing was good throughout.

The controversy was when they wrote stories that were paralleling current events. Two things especially come to mind. In the season where cylons captured most of humanity:
1. the humans (good guys) used suicide bombers to revolt against cylons and at the time in the real world suicide bombing used against US occupation of Iraq was being called terrorism. People didnt like it when shown the viewpoint of the other side.
2. Then cylons used torture to try to get information and were shown to be monsters, while many in the US were in favor of torture against anyone we call terrorist or might be a terrorist. People didnt like it when it was shown that what they were supporting was monsterous.
 
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B5 deserves TNG Bluray treatment... Just recreate the stuff shot for shot... I don't trust that doing the TOS style redo of the graphics will do B5 justice...

Absolutely no re-telling of the same story with B5 please... Story has been told, and the characters we well (enough) acted already...
I mean, I'd buy it in a heartbeat (and I never buy Blu-Rays).

But sadly it's not going to happen. All the original CGI assets are lost and the available source material is of such poor quality that it would require redoing everything. B5 just doesn't have the same kind of following of Star Trek to make the effort financially viable.
 
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Oh come on. Can we have a Babylon 5 reboot instead?
J. Micheal Strazincsky (spelling) won't let it happen. he has control of the IP and as such is actively blocking such attempts.

While it saddens me to know that B5 won't be rendered in high quality productions it makes me happy to know that a cheap rip off also won't happen.

I thought he was open to the idea with a new cast but it would require significant funding for him to sign off on it. Last I heard, his ideal was a series of movies though I'm not sure how he'd fit the narrative of the TV into a much more compressed for the theater time. I won't say that that is impossible as he has proven to be remarkably adaptive in terms of scheduling and scripting but much of the soul of Babylon 5 is in the B and C plots of an episode. Focusing on the A plots I feel would make the such a remake feel generic.

Wait, wait, unless I recall incorrectly, JMS has been more than interested in doing a proper clean up of the material for Blueray/4K release and WB, more specific, someone at WB that seems to have some kind of vendetta with JMS, is actively blocking this and the same applies to anything else TV related, like reboots.

Let me see if I can find that link.

I thought that the effects masters were lost, so that any cleanup would require redoing the effects. The rest of the material can be remastered though.

The originals got lost in a warehouse fire so remastering everything would be really difficult if not impossible. This is why any scene with CGI (both pure CGI and mixed with live action) is made 16:9 by zooming the image. It's most noticeable during that one episode done as a news channel documentary because the chyrons are blatantly cut off.

And to give you a further idea of how much someone at WB hates him, they did the DVD transfer off some janky PAL reel despite knowing a superior NTSC reel existed.
 
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