Battlestar Galactica reboot to get new reboot from Mr. Robot creator
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Hopefully they just mean technology wise. I mean we are moving away from gun based CIWS to missile based and are getting there on lasers while BSG was still using guns because that's what we use never made sense.
My biggest pet peeve with both BSG and Star Wars is that the ships never have any big weapon systems. All the ships are like if you took a WW2 battleship removed the big guns and just kept the AA.
At least Star Trek and B5 had the ships have weapons that where sized to the ship.
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I'm honestly hoping they do a prequel spin off. Space Noir without any of the "fate of humanity" stakes distracting from the excellent world building.
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Yeah, I feel the blue crystal zombie b plot is just not necessary... The world building of the Expanse is totally enough to keep me engaged... The Political intrigue and acting is excellent... The characters, for the most part, were/are fantastic (but get lost in the b plot)...
It is enough sci-fi for me to have the magic propulsion that still sortta kinda fits in with basic laws of physics, even if the mechanism is beyond realistic thermodynamics...
It is the same way I feel about GoT not needing the Time Travel (TM) business... It made for 1 amazing sceen in 1 episode, but wrecked the organic nature of how the series was progressing as a whole...
There is a whole list of shows whose non-supernatural plot-line was sufficient to carry the stories... (Witchblade is another that comes to mind... The corrupt cop plot line didn't need a magical sword, it was still a good series without it...)
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I wouldn't mind seeing a reboot of G 1980 where the convoy makes it to a modern (1980) Earth.
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JMS has said on Twitter that Warner Bros has a pristine quality 4:3 print of the entire TV series, which has the original high quality CGI, albeit cropped to 4:3. New DVDs cut from this print would be of significantly higher quality than the current DVDs.
As he said, "A 4:3 release in HD would be less confusing and could be done tomorrow for chump change."
As for the current DVDs, JMS says they're crappy because "what we have was transferred to PAL then back to NTSC, blown up and cropped to make the 4:3 CGI 16:9; it was sharp originally."
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You can get all that from watching BSG?
I wouldn't've even begun to guess that explanation based on what was shown on screen. I'm guessing you got all that from Caprica? And given how obviously they were dropping hints in the mid-seasons for mysteries that they had no idea the answers to, I'd need to see something from the writers dated prior to the end of BSG stating this before I'd believe that that writers actually had that in mind at the time they wrote the end of the series.
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Then they should have paused production until the strike ended, rather than give us the shit they did.
Again, it was a great show up until it completely fell apart.
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It's not another superfluous streaming service it's the future for where NBCUniversal's content will go.
Cable TV is dying and even for people who do pay for it, it's only live news and sports that make any real money.
A streaming service cuts out middlemen and makes worldwide distribution much easier.
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And the courtroom scene where Tigh says “there’s too much confusion” and suddenly we realize what that faint, garbled chord progression is. That moment where a piece of our culture shows up deeply embedded in theirs like that, well, let’s just say that I reacted quite favorably to that scene.
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Yeah except the cast and crew who weren't on strike still need to get a paycheck for things like bills. You delay production and those people will go elsewhere very quickly if it gets them paid.
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I greatly enjoyed the 2004 series even with the downturns it took along the way. How many times has a series ended in a way that satisfies all viewers? Answer: 0
The great thing about reboots is that it doesn’t erase the previous series. If I don’t like the new one, I can choose to ignore it and continue to have fond memories of the version I enjoyed and go back to that version whenever I want. People tend to go into reboots with the idea that it will somehow ruin the series they loved. It won’t unless you let it.
Is it a bit soon for a BSG reboot? Probably. But f* it. If they think they have a good idea, bring it on. I may have a new show to enjoy!
The great thing about reboots is that it doesn’t erase the previous series. If I don’t like the new one, I can choose to ignore it and continue to have fond memories of the version I enjoyed and go back to that version whenever I want. People tend to go into reboots with the idea that it will somehow ruin the series they loved. It won’t unless you let it.
Is it a bit soon for a BSG reboot? Probably. But f* it. If they think they have a good idea, bring it on. I may have a new show to enjoy!
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Thanks for the update, that certainly is newer than my previous source.
https://meincmagazine.com/gadgets/2014/08 ... get-movie/
I remember that movies were the plan for an extended period of time but as time goes, things change.
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I still gush over the series conclusion to Quantum Leap... It was surprisingly satisfying... It is the only show I ever think of when I think of amazing ways to end a TV show... The only other I can think of that manages to just not tick me off (a low low bar) is TNG's All Good Things... I didn't like it initially, and now I tolerate it...
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The 2004-2008 series was not perfect, some episodes were indeed not quite up to par... but oh well, not every time at bat will be a home run. I'm a sci-fi geek so anything that doesn't have cringe-worthy acting is fine by me. You can't just shit out good sci-fi like you can shit out reality TV, but good reality TV is as oxymoronic as diet fried chicken or halal porkchops.
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Have to say I agree with this. Quite apart from anything else, too many of the actors that made B5 what it was have passed away, and it would be difficult to do justice to a reboot...
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Someone mentioned good series endings.. Breaking Bad comes to mind for me. Hated it but yet it was so right.
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Please make this a musical
It will be the first ever Sci-Fi Musical ever.
What about "Anna and the Apocalypse"? Or zombie apocalypse doesn't count?
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Oh, absolutely! But my point is that a big part of what distinguishes hard SF from soft SF is the groundedness. Take all of that out, and it loses some of its hardness. As just one example: The Martian and the middle section of 2001 are basically the same hardness and in both cases a big part of what actually conveys that realism is the depiction of the tedium and slowness of space travel. I feel like when shows gloss over that, it loses some of that realism. You can just say "flies to LA", because the viewer has enough of an understanding that they get that 5hrs has passed. But you can't just say "flies to Mars" without explaining (somehow—not necessarily with dialog) to the viewer that 5 weeks has passed.
But maybe that's just me? I feel like a big part of realistic space SF is conveying the gobsmacking vastness of space, and that one of the biggest ways that space opera deviates from realistic SF is in collapsing those distances and making travel much more routine than it really would be.
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JMS is on record saying that he'd love to do more in the B5 universe, but that there is an executive somewhere in the company that purchased B5 from it's original creator who is basically shutting down any and every attempt to do so.
Personally, I think that whoever that is should be invited to a Pak'ma'ra banquet as the main course... but sadly I don't think we'll see anything in the B5 universe any time soon.
Sigh.
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It's a show of two halves. First half (up to about half-way through Season 3) was some of the best sci-fi space opera ever seen on TV.
Second half (about half-way through Season 3 onwards) went weird supernatural pseudo- religious mysticism, and was frankly a bit shit. Quite literally Deus Ex Machina as per the comment you're replying to, as it turned out they were literally being guided by the hand of good.
Elements of that description actually apply equally well to RDM's previous space opera, Star Trek: Deep Space 9, except the spiritual nonsense was more muted there, meaning it stayed good until the end.
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There is so much sadness in this. I purchased the DVD set and was horrified at the quality. To know there is a pristine quality 4:3 print "somewhere" and was not used for the DVD's is absolutely criminal.
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You realize Caprica began airing 12 days after the end of the series finale of BSG right? Meaning they had already been working on writing the storylines, filming and mixing the references for, well it would have had to have been before season 3. And there isn’t anything directly stated about that but given the allusions, and the abilities that it displays Chloe having in the Virtual version of the BSG universe (which they directly show) it all adds up.
I mean the ‘guiding’ being is specifically referred to as ‘it’, it is shown in Caprica there is a complete realistic facsimile of Caprica City, presumably all of the known space as well given there are direct links within the holoband menu to a facsimile of Gemanon. We know Zoe has pretty much limitless power there, and that users can choose to make themselves visible to select individuals, and Zoe has managed to program avatars within the V-World with their own separate consciousness that are self aware. It is all basically laid out, and makes complete perfect sense when both series are taken into account together.
Edit: name is Zoe not Chloe
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Babylon 5.
Oh, sure, plenty of complaints about season 5, but I've not heard anyone complain about the ending.
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True. Which was mostly unnecessary, because the Cylons' plan can be summed up easily as "Kill all humans". Everything else was details. Which made this late movie mostly a snoozer to me. However, The Plan does include perhaps the most hauntingly beautiful portrayal of nuclear Armageddon that I expect to ever see. The scenes between about 7 and 15 minutes with the curious voice-overs and spot-on music always send shivers up my spine.
As long as it isn't really a reboot, I'm up for more of this universe. But yes, there needs to be an overall series outline from the start to avoid some writer continually patting himself on the back for how well he can pull rabbits out of his ass story-wise... until he eventually can't.
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Thanks anyway, I’d rather dress up a bucket of hamsters as the cast of BSG and see how well I can train them to act out the original series.
But yay, another streaming service.
“57 streaming services and nothing on...”
But yay, another streaming service.
“57 streaming services and nothing on...”
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I saw this a while back. However it was disputed by one of the guys that did the original effects, who said they only ever rendered them at 4:3 NTSC resolution. So even if they are printed out to celluloid somewhere it still wouldn't get you HD.
This has long been the conventional wisdom, but SOMEBODY has them. One of the B5 groups on Facebook gets regular posts from someone who has the original scene files and has been re-rendering a smattering of them in HD. They have given no indication as to how many of these original files they have, but from what they have posted so far a large number of ship models and textures definitely do still exist.
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Please make this a musical
It will be the first ever Sci-Fi Musical ever.
What about "Anna and the Apocalypse"? Or zombie apocalypse doesn't count?
"Stop the Planet of the Apes, I Want To Get Off"?
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Thats not the point though.
There's no point in defending the cylons. They were indisputably portrayed as monstrous, and this is where many had a hard time with the show. Even if you can find a way to see the cylon's side of it, many saw these episodes as a slap in the face as far as their own political beliefs.
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Here's an idea --- it could be a prequel focused on Colonel Tigh. It could be called "Better Call Saul"
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Can a machine operating with no emotion and incapable of empathy due to the choices of its creators be considered monstrous though? I mean if a machine is following its predefined programming then who is the monster? The machine or the one that created it? Keeping in mind that Cavill and the others weren’t some evolutionary step within the cylon factories/growth. They were expressly engineered by the final five. So really it is the final five that were the monsters.
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Is it just me, or does it seem like SOP for a company that wants to do their own streaming service is to prop it up with space opera? Disney is doing The Mandalorian. CBS has Star Trek. Fox is relegating The Orville to Hulu. Now NBC and BSG.
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Maybe in your market. But the original show date for the BSG finale was roughly a year before the first ep of Caprica on initial broadcast.
So while they probably had the storyline for Caprica before the BSG finale aired, but there's plenty of time involved that there's no guarantee they had the Caprica storyline (and thus the virtual reality thing) decided on before the BSG finale was written.
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I think JMS said that the CGI would be of 720p-ish quality. He posted this tweet which included EFX keyframes that he said were an early render, one step down from the final CGI quality. They look damn good to me, much better than what's on the DVDs.
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Um my market is the US market where it originally aired. You can even google it:
BSG Final Episode date: January 10th 2010
Caprica first episode date: January 22nd 2010
NM you are correct, Google is being odd with its ‘more info’.
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