Yes, but "OTA" in every sense I've seen it used means cellular or not relying on the customer for anything.
The Electric Car Thread
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FYI, in the Netherlands there is a dedicated accident response team that fixes any potentially dangerous situations, including asphalt damage, spills, attenuator damage, guardrail damage, lighting fixture and overhead installation damage, IMMEDIATELY. If the situation is deemed non-critical, the repair may be deferred to the next 24 hours, not later.
An attenuator like the one involved in the accident would have been repaired within hours here.
^ There's a Caltrans maintenance station literally one exit up the freeway from this Tesla crash, less than a mile away. Sadly, we've grown complacent to poor road conditions, and decades of under-investment in infrastructure have left us with an overwhelming amount of deferred maintenance.
LOL.
you think your road conditions are "poor," try everywhere else in the country which actually experiences weather.
Oregon has worse weather, yet much better roads than CA. IMHO, CalTrans has systemic organizational problems beyond simply lack of funds. They do a lot of good research, but something is definitely lacking in their actual effectiveness on the ground.
I am a bit confused why Washington streets and road drain so much better than Mississippi.
Then I remember MS gets so hot the 'crown' flattens out.
Then I remember that WA has continuous rain for 9 months, not sudden thunderstorms.
Then I remember WA has somewhere for rain to drain to, not the absolute flatness of MS.
I am still not convinced that MS just does not understand drainage.
I have the weather channel on in the background, and they were talking about the upcoming heavy rain in the Southern Mississipi valley area...and stating that things are going to get really rough because the ground is already saturated from 18.5" of rain already this year.
Yes, the Yazoo River has been flooding for 8 weeks and we get 2.25 inches of rain tomorrow.
http://rivergages.mvr.usace.army.mil/WaterControl/shefgraph-wotem2.cfm?sid=CE4185E0&d=94&dt=S
Crops are going to be late: corn, rice, soybeans, cotton.
I would guess that their maps implementation does not store the maps locally? Judging by my phone’s always redownloadjng the same map over and over.
Great point I had overlooked. Maps data should have warned the autopilot something was not right.
Also this and the tractor trailer crash likely is a consequence of not using LIDAR.
Tesla has registered almost 8,000 new VINs with NHTSA in the last two days; it looks like their production of 2000+ per week may not have just been a hard push for the end of the quarter. Perhaps they're finally getting that ramp-up going. They were registering 1000-2000 VINs at a time sporadically up to March, then in March they started doing 2000+ per instance. Then yesterday almost 5,000, and to everyone's surprise, nearly 3,000 more today. The highest registered VIN is over 28,000 now.
They did say they’d made 2,020 in seven days and planned 2k for the following week, so maybe. Of course, a registered VIN is a necessary but not sufficient condition for producing more cars. We’ll see how they do in 2-3 months...or whenever they assign me a VIN.
If I had to guess, I'd wager that they're storing insanely detailed 3D maps locally and have a small server farm running in each self driving car. That they've not gone electric indicates (to me, at least) that their power consumption doesn't fit in the limits of a BEV.
The main issue for Tesla is to keep everybody focused on the task at hand and not have people running around saying the sky is falling or some version of management and engineering are fucking up. Sounds like they've been able to do that.
so, have you configured yet? are you excited?
(being in CT, and a non-owner I am probably going to have to wait until early 2019 to get an AWD)
(being in CT, and a non-owner I am probably going to have to wait until early 2019 to get an AWD)
Recent tweets from Musk indicate that AWD is waiting for them to hit 5k/week before they add complexity with more options like that. He also said that’d probably be in July, but I’m personally expecting several months after that at least.
For those in the US who are eyeing the 200K trigger to begin the tax credit phase-out, I think that it's going to be take the LR model or miss out on the full credit.
I expect 200K to be hit this quarter. Once that is announced, I expect that lots of people who were delaying configuring (waiting for QA to improve, or AWD, or a current lease to expire, etc.) will rush to get delivery of a long range model as soon as possible. While the AWD version may be "available" in July, if Tesla continues to prioritize the LR model then the number of people in line ahead of the AWD will grow as people shift to whatever they can get fastest. Remember, to get the credit it needs to be delivered before the cut-off date, not merely configured.
Personally, I'm expecting the AWD to come in around $5K. With the first step-down in the credit being worth $3750, I think I'll be able to get the LR or the AWD at around the same total price.
The utility of the LR model is higher than AWD for me, so after a lot of waffling back and forth, I think I'm going to try getting a LR ASAP, rather than holding out for a lower priced model.
The fact that I'm getting impatient has nothing to do with it.
Edit: I have a first-day online reservation in the Bay Area, and am a non-owner. I've switched my indicated preference, and have my fingers crossed that I'll receive the configuration email within a month or so.
I expect 200K to be hit this quarter. Once that is announced, I expect that lots of people who were delaying configuring (waiting for QA to improve, or AWD, or a current lease to expire, etc.) will rush to get delivery of a long range model as soon as possible. While the AWD version may be "available" in July, if Tesla continues to prioritize the LR model then the number of people in line ahead of the AWD will grow as people shift to whatever they can get fastest. Remember, to get the credit it needs to be delivered before the cut-off date, not merely configured.
Personally, I'm expecting the AWD to come in around $5K. With the first step-down in the credit being worth $3750, I think I'll be able to get the LR or the AWD at around the same total price.
The utility of the LR model is higher than AWD for me, so after a lot of waffling back and forth, I think I'm going to try getting a LR ASAP, rather than holding out for a lower priced model.
The fact that I'm getting impatient has nothing to do with it.
Edit: I have a first-day online reservation in the Bay Area, and am a non-owner. I've switched my indicated preference, and have my fingers crossed that I'll receive the configuration email within a month or so.
He also indicated a 'similar timeline' for white interior, which is what I'm waiting for. I has a sad.
For those in the US who are eyeing the 200K trigger to begin the tax credit phase-out, I think that it's going to be take the LR model or miss out on the full credit.
I expect 200K to be hit this quarter. Once that is announced, I expect that lots of people who were delaying configuring (waiting for QA to improve, or AWD, or a current lease to expire, etc.) will rush to get delivery of a long range model as soon as possible. While the AWD version may be "available" in July, if Tesla continues to prioritize the LR model then the number of people in line ahead of the AWD will grow as people shift to whatever they can get fastest. Remember, to get the credit it needs to be delivered before the cut-off date, not merely configured.
Personally, I'm expecting the AWD to come in around $5K. With the first step-down in the credit being worth $3750, I think I'll be able to get the LR or the AWD at around the same total price.
The utility of the LR model is higher than AWD for me, so after a lot of waffling back and forth, I think I'm going to try getting a LR ASAP, rather than holding out for a lower priced model.
The fact that I'm getting impatient has nothing to do with it.
Edit: I have a first-day online reservation in the Bay Area, and am a non-owner. I've switched my indicated preference, and have my fingers crossed that I'll receive the configuration email within a month or so.
Yep, I expect to be in the "Get the LR, or don't get the full Fed credit" group.
Unless the Feds extend the credit. Which would suck for me if they did it retroactively like a bunch of credits for 2017 - I need to take active measures to generate the full tax liability - plan is an IRA conversion, but that would have to happen the same year as the purchase.
I suspect the hardest person to keep focused is Musk himself.
He's trying to juggle way too many ventures IMO, what with Tesla, SpaceX, storage battery systems, SolarCity, HyperLoop, The Boring Company, and I know I'm forgetting a few.
I suspect the hardest person to keep focused is Musk himself.
He's trying to juggle way too many ventures IMO, what with Tesla, SpaceX, storage battery systems, SolarCity, HyperLoop, The Boring Company, and I know I'm forgetting a few.
Solar city, storage and the tile roofs were all folded into Tesla.
At SpaceX he has Gwynne Shotwell to run the business - and she does an excellent job.
He's not doing much with Hyperloop - just a periodic pod competition. He is not affiliated with the various Hyperloop companies.
Boring Company and it's "Loop" (lower speed, no Hyper) sound interesting, he claims it only takes 2-3% of his time.
Neuralink/AI stuff is another interest.
Have you had white interior before? I have cream interior on my current car and I swore I would never, ever have light interior again. If you have, ignore me. It just shows every little scuff and dye transfer from clothes is an issue, and I had no idea about it until I had it myself, so I always warn people who haven't had it before.
He also indicated a 'similar timeline' for white interior, which is what I'm waiting for. I has a sad.
(Note: I wear really dark denim almost exclusively.)I am excited.I don't drive very much. My current car is two years old and has 11,000 miles on it. So I'm not really dependent on this car. But I'm surprised I got my email. The closest service centers are quite a haul. The one in Charlotte is 1:48 away. Both of the ones in Atlanta are about 2:20 away.
I didn't configure anything exciting. I wanted a black car, so no need for custom paint (debated silver, but my last two cars have been silver so it's time for a change). I opted for the non-ugly wheels and got autopilot. But I passed on FSD. I can add it when they actually deliver on it, if ever. But I honestly think I will have traded up to a new car by then at the rate FSD is progressing.
If anyone has specific questions about the configuration or anything, I'm happy to answer them. But I can't tell you anything reddit hasn't already stated in detail.
The stock wheels look perfectly nice (to me) if you dislike the aero cover look. Just pop off the aero covers on the wheels. If you have a long drive where you want to stretch range, put 'em back on.
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... rs.105116/
I've considered a Bolt before, and the Tesla 3 is on my radar.
But then, given the insurance costs of having multiple cars, I'd probably move to an EV when there was a RAV4-like vehicle with a 400 mile range.
But then, given the insurance costs of having multiple cars, I'd probably move to an EV when there was a RAV4-like vehicle with a 400 mile range.
I’m also not a big fan of the stock wheels either with or without the cover, so I upgraded to the sport wheels (and blue paint). I will be ordering the aero wheels for my winter set though. If you do want to pull the caps off, Tesla sells a wheel cap set: https://shop.tesla.com/us/en/product/ve ... 58216-00-A
I'm fucking dying for a car like this. Why isn't there one? Half the range would be plenty.
Yep I'm waiting for an affordable mid sized suv. Rav4 size, 500km real range,4wd towbar etc
Until then I'll stick with the phev
Until then I'll stick with the phev
Heh. Only if it's got decent ground clearance, fording depth, and a range extender/onboard genset.
I mean, that W15 looks pretty close to perfect.
Have you had white interior before? I have cream interior on my current car and I swore I would never, ever have light interior again. If you have, ignore me. It just shows every little scuff and dye transfer from clothes is an issue, and I had no idea about it until I had it myself, so I always warn people who haven't had it before.
He also indicated a 'similar timeline' for white interior, which is what I'm waiting for. I has a sad.
I have not had a white interior before but based on Tesla owners' accounts, the faux leather interiors that Tesla uses hold up well, clean easily and do not stain excessively. I don't wear denim at all, and I live where the temperature climbs as high as 117 degrees so anything that takes a bit of an edge off that will be helpful. Light interiors can make a car feel more spacious as well. I will be going for a 'crisp' look I guess you could say - white interior, and blue exterior with a matte paint protection film. The old-school Nevada license plate is also blue with white letters and border, and I will be getting a white cover to go over the lug nuts in the center of the wheel when I run them without the aero covers.
Waiting for 3 more months is gonna be tough, but if I'm spending this much on a car I'm going to get what I want. I've never been able to do that before because I've never bought a new car.
Well, I think it's likely a side-effect of efficiency regulations, which also encourage big trucks at the expense of small compact trucks. The reason why there aren't more AWD hybrids and EV's is because their primary purpose is regulatory compliance.
That said, the hybrid RAV4 that is already out today looks mighty attractive.
Model 3: Better not open the frunk at the same time the wipers are on. They collide.
https://i.redd.it/3vzs0c2b8lq01.jpg
https://i.redd.it/3vzs0c2b8lq01.jpg
As someone who has done some kind of software dev for many years, this is the kind of stuff that just furthers my belief they are so overworked on this it isn't even funny.
Did nobody test this? If it causes physical damage the computer shouldn't let you do both at the same time.
Did nobody test this? If it causes physical damage the computer shouldn't let you do both at the same time.
From the Reddit thread, it seems like a lot of cars are this way. In any case, I don't know why you would want to pop the hood while it's raining; you'd get rain water in your frunk. But, they can update the software to pause the wipers when the hood is opened.
Probably not; this is similar to a period of time where unfortunate timing of opening the front and rear doors on the Model X could cause them to hit each other.
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... st-1796376
Just tested and my Leaf has the same issue.
My parent's second car (Mitsu Mirage) also does this. (Edit: they have different aftermarket wipers, so not sure if this is true for the stock wipers)
Seems to be absolutely ubiquitous.
Most cars the engines in the front you use the bonnet far less so not such an issue
Yeah, there's a difference between "Engine cover that rarely gets opened" and "useful storage area cover."
I'm not surprised to hear that the falcon wing doors collide with the front door. It makes absolutely no sense at all how they should be able to do that, but it's a Tesla. So they can.
I believe that it warns you when you open the front trunk, and there’s a note in the user manual about it as well. It’s not a great situation, but it’s better than a malfunctioning trunk close sensor preventing you from using your wipers.
That's easy, if the frunk sensor says the frunk is closed, and it changes to "open" you immediately disable the wipers. If someone manually tries to re-enable the wipers pop up a warning saying that physical damage may occur if the frunk is open, but let them override it if they really want to.