Wi-Fi sniffers strapped to drones—Mike Lindell’s odd plan to stop election fraud
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Congratulations on trying to rationalize the irrational.
Why not hire a psychic to scan everyone who walks in or out of a polling place, to determine who has malice in their soul and is planning to fraudificate the election?
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My phone's Bluetooth is "nuclear device", which so far has served it's purpose as a unique identifier.
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What obscurity? Elections are run out in the open using pre-defined rules and validated using known and publicized methodologies. The only people who thing this is obscure, or in need of a 3rd party to oversee, are the ones not paying any attention at all. Or those bent on overthrowing the US.
Yes, the goal is crazy. And you may want to go RTFA because the implementation is beyond stupid. And ineffective.
Go talk to your local election officials. You'll be pleasantly surprised at how secure and open US elections are. Lindell is a fucking moron doing fucking moronic things in service of utter imbeciles. None of it is based in any sort of reality.
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Eh. Lindell doesn’t seem to be useful to anyone. Every indication is that he’s mostly self-funding all this election fraud stuff, that his “seminars” are extremely poorly attended, and that even the True Believer attendees come away disappointed with how shitty his claims and “evidence“ is. This sniffing drone thing isn’t close to being his first doesn’t survive first contact with a brain cell idea. And when the people who believe the ghost of a dead Venezuelan ruler interfered with the election think your ideas are nuts, you know you’re on a different level.
I actually believe he's a true believer. He's blown through too much of his own money (including future lawsuit payouts) and torpedoed his company (even WalMart stopped selling his stuff) for this to be any kind of act for future financial consideration.
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In the 90's, if I had known of the extraordinary ability of the newfangled interwebs to gather and amplify the depths of human stupidity, I would have voted against it coming into existence.
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Crash Bandicoor
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Who knew selling pillows can fund this amount of crazy? Is it some niche lucrative industry I had no idea about like Persian rugs. (Fun story in college there was a pretty run down looking rug store near my apartment, went in figuring I could buy a cheap rug for my living room and discovered that pre conflict Iranian rugs and Persian rugs are basically like an investment vehicle prices started around $30,000+).
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ColdWetDog
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Not at all. He'll find some AP in the building - hard to find a public building without a Wifi point these days, even if it belongs to somebody's printer or toaster oven. Once he's found said AP, he's 'proven' that the voting machines are connected to Illuminati servers. Because of course he has.
Reality has nothing at all to do with his world.
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Here's the link to my county's page asking people to observe. It's different for each county/state across the country, as to whether any rando can request directly to be a monitor, or whether they have to be a representative of a political party, but pretty much every election in this country is run with 3rd party observers watching the counts.
This is why 99.9% of all the election fraud claims from 2020 are complete bullshit. They rely on the assumption that members of their own political party failed to notice what would have been obvious manipulation. And when those observers speak out about how there wasn't any manipulation, they're attacked.
Why is someone who named themselves "EternalStudent07" apparently so dedicated to NOT actually learning things before speaking? Yeah, RTFA! Also, RTFA about just how verifiable and monitorable elections actually are before assuming they're not.
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ColdWetDog
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Because drones are cool and hi tech and something something. And they're made in China and hook into the Chinese Iluminati servers (but he overlooked that little detail). You're just over thinking this. Certainly Lindell isn't.
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Wait, does the UN actually do that in other "developed" democracies? I thought it was the exception, not the rule. Damn, we think we're so much better than everyone else...
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When he talks about security stuff, it's like he's simoltaneously trying to remember what his techie consultant told him in a 3-minute wireless-basics crash course, and filling in the multiple, gaping holes with the wildest shit
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You could. In fact, since the task at hand is "searching for wi-fi addresses" you probably already have the necessary hardware in your hand or pocket at this very instant. You could run this as an app on a phone.
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Poll worker here (Ohio). The tablets where voters check in are connected to each other through an access point. No internet or cell connectivity, just a local wireless LAN. This is because Ohio mandates that, when a polling location contains multiple precincts, people must be allowed to check in at any given tablet, regardless of which precinct that that voter belongs to. So the LAN is needed in order for the tablets to talk to each other, otherwise it's theoretically possible that one person could check in at each tablet separately and get a ballot from each. So, ironically, the WiFi is preventing fraud, not supporting it.
Guarantee these goons would flag such a network, because nuance does not exist in their world, they'll just see a WiFi network and freak. Also, the building I worked in last time was city hall for a small suburb, and it has public WiFi, as does much of the surrounding area.
Guarantee these goons would flag such a network, because nuance does not exist in their world, they'll just see a WiFi network and freak. Also, the building I worked in last time was city hall for a small suburb, and it has public WiFi, as does much of the surrounding area.
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There's also one parish that's monitored by the Civil Rights Division of the DOJ by court order. St. Landry Parish was ordered to have its elections monitored for violations of the Civil Rights Act in December 1979 with a duration of "until further order of this Court." No further orders have been forthcoming in the past 44 years. There were also three Census Areas in Alaska that were under similar orders, but they expired at the end of 2022.
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Obviously selling pillows doesn't require a lot of intelligence or technical expertise.
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Well on the bright side he's capable of saying WIFI as a term? That is something better than you average congressional moron knows in Congress? Hey I'm trying to find some silver lining on the pillow with crap stains on it.
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In most countries for most jobs it's active local party members only — people who dedicate time routinely to actively supporting their party, whether by attending meetings or through stronger contributions.
In the US it's whomever has most-strongly built being a party supporter into their personality; it's purely about your declared labelling.
I don't see the need to agree on what the ideal system would be just to be able to say that's clearly flawed. Not just logically, but empirically if you compare the relative extremities of American politics to those elsewhere.
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They are. People can sign up to be poll watchers.
It absolutely the fuck is, considering the enormous conspiracy that would have to be in place in order to swing an election that way.
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Your graph fails to back up your point. It only tries to link IQ to political ideology, not party affiliation.
Political parties may be inevitable, as like-minded people get together to further their shared goals. This clearly becomes problematic if party members place loyalty to the party above the good of the populace as a whole. I am not a member of any political party, but I definitely "lean" solid Democratic these days; because it's obvious that the Republican Party has gone @#$%@$% insane.
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So, it's just going to tell us that there is an internet connection? Not whether this is one? Doesn't seem very useful.
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One of the stronger WiFi networks in my immediate neighbourhood is 'Nostromo'. Not sure if that's the Alien movie series or Conrad novel one, though.
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boydwaters
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Interesting. I fail to see how a person could get multiple ballots that way. Doesn't checking in on the one tablet eliminate the possibility of checking in again, on any device?
In my county you check in on paper. You sign your name next to your registration and they give you a ballot. Clearly, you cannot collect multiple ballots that way. We're quite lenient about same-day registration or allowing people to vote who claim to be registered, or who say they are registered in a different precinct, but their ballots go in a different box and have to be judged by central election officials, by hand, starting the following day. They are "provisional" until judged.
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Oh please. It will go like this:
Lindell: "I have 5000 drones ready to go!..." (which he does not, but...)
-election day-
Lindell: "All the drones fell out of the sky after 20 minutes! PROOF they were targeted and jammed by <insert perceived enemy in each area here> to cover up them stealing the election!"...
Lindell: "I have 5000 drones ready to go!..." (which he does not, but...)
-election day-
Lindell: "All the drones fell out of the sky after 20 minutes! PROOF they were targeted and jammed by <insert perceived enemy in each area here> to cover up them stealing the election!"...
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Political parties don't provide any kind of checks and balances. If they did, then Trump would have been impeached.
Further, not every topic has two sides to everything. Some things have one side to them. Some things have 5.
Only an idiot would boil it down to just "both sides".
HOW
Fuck that noise. There does not need to be any balance with the Republican party. They are straight up fucking fascists.
Again, fucking how?
And how do you do that when the right to lobby elected officials is literally right there in the first amendment?
That's the dumbest fucking thing you've said on the topic, and that's saying something.
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