Wi-Fi sniffers strapped to drones—Mike Lindell’s odd plan to stop election fraud
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No, he's no more a "legitimate believer" than Alex Jones. He's a disgusting opportunist willing to jump on any bandwagon to further his own bank account. He's the very sort of pseudo-religious opportunist the biblical story of Jesus throwing the merchants out of the Jerusalem Temple was warning against. I hate resorting to biblical references, but the story applies in this case.
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Given that political parties do exist, how can we reduce the harm they do to society?
Ranked choice voting is one attempt to alleviate the extremism caused by party-affiliated "first past the post" primaries.
There are also attempts in various states to constitutionally eliminate gerrymandering.
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Without going into the why a sniffer is useless in what he wants to prove.
Why a drone? Polling places in the US don't have observers from the political parties already in site? Can't you just put the fucking sniffer in the backpack of that observer? Or is he so fringe that not even the GOP supports him?
Who wants to bet that the drone is probably Made in China, and that the device is filled with tech sourced from China, if not made directly in China.
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According to the Carter Center almost anyone can be an US election observer as long as they don't disrupt the election. So they don't need a drone, they can send a guy with a backpack to be seated there in silence for the whole day.
Why a drone? Polling places in the US don't have observers from the political parties already in site? Can't you just put the fucking sniffer in the backpack of that observer? Or is he so fringe that not even the GOP supports him?
Who wants to bet that the drone is probably Made in China, and that the device is filled with tech sourced from China, if not made directly in China.
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According to the Carter Center almost anyone can be an US election observer as long as they don't disrupt the election. So they don't need a drone, they can send a guy with a backpack to be seated there in silence for the whole day.
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I think Lindell went to the McAfee School of Creative Reality, and graduated at the bottom of his class. Enough to keep it together, but never enough to make it work.
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Speaking as an American-by-choice who was originally something else, primaries in themselves seem to be 90% of the problem — it's just a really weird way to do an election in two steps, especially once you get into the whole "oh, you cared which person represented party X this year? Then you are allowed NO SAY in party Y!" side of things.
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Between now and the 2024 election might be a good time to brush up on FAA drone regulations as well.
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There's so much stupid here...where to start?
- All these drones could freak people out ("It's the Terrorists, Evelyn!!") or crash, potentially opening him up to some sort of liability.
- Someone could accuse him of trying to hack the voting machines via WiFi drone, further muddying the waters.
- Oh, and has he heard of Ethernet? I guess it wouldn't be very secret. But if you're going for Illuminati-level conspiracy, WiFi isn't great either.
- His pillows aren't very comfortable. I don't want politics to color something as banal as pillows, but the My Pillow my parents bought for me last Christmas wasn't very comfortable. Had to switch back to the old one. Maybe it's just my taste, idk.
- And I'm a full-ass grown adult with a spouse, two kids, a pretty good paycheck - why in the hell did they think I needed a pillow?? Was it so they could pray over it for my lost, atheist soul?? Christ, it was - I'm just realizing this
- And I'm a full-ass grown adult with a spouse, two kids, a pretty good paycheck - why in the hell did they think I needed a pillow?? Was it so they could pray over it for my lost, atheist soul?? Christ, it was - I'm just realizing this
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It's probably intended, they are going to use WMD to destroy the deep state.
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The largest proven election fraud to take place in recent decades was for North Carolina's 9th Congressional District in 2018. A firm hired by the Republican candidate Mark Harris harvested absentee ballots, trashed some of them, filled in others, and ensured that Harris won the primary by 905 votes, a reversal of the 134-vote loss by Harris in the 2016 primary. The firm did the same thing in the November election, where Harris won by 828 votes.
The results didn't hold up to scrutiny, though, and the Board of Electors refused to certify the election. Harris himself called for a new election, though he didn't run in it. Another Republican did, and won by more that 4000 votes (more than the number of absentee ballots cast).
The leader of the scam, Leslie McCrae Dowless, pled guilty to counts of government theft and defrauding the government. He was sentenced to six months in prison, and died from lung cancer a few months after he got out. At least a few others pleaded guilty in return for suspended sentences.
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"Look how stupid I am" is an effective tactic with a long, venerable history. In 2020, over 30 million Americans demonstrated that they are not only astoundingly ignorant, but incapable of critical thought and living in fear of knowledge and the knowledgeable. Southerners, in particular, don't vote for anyone who looks like they "think they're better than me."
To gain the support of such people, you confirm their prejudices, preferably with frequent grammatical errors. Some of us remember Jess Helms standing before Congress pretending to be unable to pronounce the word "anus." He was deadly in his effectiveness.
Politicians speak to manipulate their audience, not communicate information. Never assume they are revealing who they are.
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Eh, Lindell actually has a long history of issues. Alcoholism, gambling, and crack cocaine usage among them. And he claims that he became sober through "prayer".
As someone who has high functioning addicts in their family, Lindell has all the signs. Including the leaning heavily on religion and believing weird conspiracy theories. Watching him interact with people and speak he reminds me of a certain family member who isn't an opportunist, he's just fried his brain with too many chemicals over the years.
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We already know it will only be in Democratic areas.
They are going to say
"We didn't have enough drones so we choose the places with high likelihood of fraud"
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Around here, most polling places are in public schools and libraries. Those have their own WiFi networks, and it's doubtful they'll be entirely shut off just for election day, so that's pretty much a guaranteed 100% false positive rate.
We also have early voting, so are these idiots going to fly drones every day for a couple weeks at early voting places?
We also have early voting, so are these idiots going to fly drones every day for a couple weeks at early voting places?
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Not to put too fine of a point on it, but critical thinking and logic are not in this guy's wheelhouse.
Frankly, I'm not sure anything is actually steering his ship.
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Because if we allowed the UN to come in and monitor our elections like they do everywhere else what do you think would happen? Especially if they actually found irregularities? I suspect that the term "ZOG" would come back into fashion as people decided that the UN had taken over our government.
And if we try to create some kind of independent third party to monitor elections in this country it would either be government funded and distrusted by all Republicans and many Democrats or a public-private partnership that would be a font of corruption and a money pit to throw our taxes into.
We can't even get consensus on how to create districts in most states. How do you think you're going to get consensus on election monitoring?
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If religion is what it took him to get sober, then good for him. I've known a few people who couldn't make it across that line until they found religion, and then they found the strength to get themselves cleaned up.
None of them went as far as Lindell into the nuttery, though. That part is entirely on him.
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Personally, I would add big tinfoil hats to the voting machines to put his mind at ease. You know, first subtly suggest the idea to the guy. In such a way that he thinks he came up with it. Else it will not work. Then resist the implementation of it by all means. Keep the guy busy. In the end, yield.
But... why wifi? What about 4G, 5G. Wifi is so unimaginative, so limited. If I'd want to rig those machines, I would definitely not use a commercially widely available technology. Think the military has better hard to detect wireless tech.
Oh well... time for coffee.
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Or, better yet, Dominion_Voting_Machine_#1922935_MAGA_Tunnel
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Mike Lindell seems to exist in a universe where he possesses some kind of credibility. Which in itself is kind of incredible.
And they said de-institutionalization was a bad idea.
And they said de-institutionalization was a bad idea.
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He’s more of a software guy than hardware. He’s probably pretty good with python image libraries.
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I know, right? This is all part of the salesman angle. A passive election observer isn't titilating and doesn't sell your audiance like "WMD". Mike needs these donations to keep rolling in for his legal defense fund. This always has been, and always will be a grift.
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Always accuse your enemy of the wrongs you plan to commit, preferably before you commit them. Put them on the defensive before you give them anything they can attack. It traps them in the position of "I'm not a poo poo head! You're the poo poo head!" It's a devastating public relations tactic.
It's one of Trump's favorite tricks – unsurprising, given that it's enabled a successful criminal career for more than half a century. It's so effective that dozens of other Republicans are swimming in his bow wave far better than they could on their own.
It's one of Trump's favorite tricks – unsurprising, given that it's enabled a successful criminal career for more than half a century. It's so effective that dozens of other Republicans are swimming in his bow wave far better than they could on their own.
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They absolutely are. Anyone can be an election monitor as long as they don't disrupt operations.
We even get international election monitors. OSCE sends a couple of hundred for each November federal election, and other organizations also send monitors.
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No, they'll claim rural voters were scared away from polling places by them so the election must be overturned. Like the people who led a boycott of Target suing them over lost sales.
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So, a switch and Cat6 Ethernet cabling, connected to the router, which is connected on coax or fiber makes his drones useless.
DOH!
DOH!
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I think the whole registered D or registered R thing is weird. In other countries, your party membership is a private matter, and is certainly not public information.
But on your main point, in (most?) countries only party members get a say / vote on who their party's candidate for election is going to be. I think I'm misunderstanding your point - you seem to be saying you should have a say in the candidate selection process of multiple parties?
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Oh, that's easy. Those voting machines SSID self-identifies, e.g., "Dominion_Voting_Machine_#1922935_CHINA_Tunnel"
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So let's just make the assumption for a moment that this would even work (hard, I know).
What do the drones bring to this? Why not just install them in a static location in or near the voting area? Ideally with an AC power adapter so dead batteries aren't a concern.
What do the drones bring to this? Why not just install them in a static location in or near the voting area? Ideally with an AC power adapter so dead batteries aren't a concern.
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