... I think they fall for it because they're stupid and too lazy to read the TOS...
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... I think they fall for it because they're stupid and too lazy to read the TOS...
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Thanks for your keen insight. Were you too stupid and too lazy to read this article? Because literally the entire point of it is that overlooking the *actual* reason (which you are doing) is problematic.
The brain is set up to give us easy answers … so if there's a hoax that appeals to people's emotions or intuition, it's going to trick people, because a lot of people just don't spend that much time thinking about the things that they see on social media
Make no mistake, it’s not because people are stupid, says Whitney Phillips, a professor at Syracuse University who studies misinformation and how it is amplified online. These sorts of hoaxes have staying power because of the peculiar way people process information and arrive at beliefs. When confronted with new information, humans don’t always do the logical thing and evaluate it on its own merits, Phillips says. Instead, we often make snap decisions based on how the information adheres with our existing worldviews.
So you lied to someone who trusts you and your take away from them believing you is that they're dumb? I think you learnt the wrong lesson here.Make no mistake, it’s not because people are stupid, says Whitney Phillips, a professor at Syracuse University who studies misinformation and how it is amplified online. These sorts of hoaxes have staying power because of the peculiar way people process information and arrive at beliefs. When confronted with new information, humans don’t always do the logical thing and evaluate it on its own merits, Phillips says. Instead, we often make snap decisions based on how the information adheres with our existing worldviews.
So she says it's not because people are stupid, then proceeds to describe that it's because people are acting stupid. Or, a nice a way of saying, people are not critically thinking, or even thinking enough to verify something, in the age of Google even, before sharing it.
I mean, 3-5 year olds do that all the time, like the time I told my 4 year old cousins that we celebrate New Year's because of the Christmas Dodo, and during this day of the year they come out from underground to pay eggs, and if they wait outside very still and quietly, maybe they'll see it. And they believed it and then told others about the Christmas Dodo.
And last I checked, we don't consider 3-5 year olds not dumb either.
I wonder now if these sort of chains gain more traction in countries in which the population has lower quality/less education and vice versa.
She's not saying they're being stupid, she says they're not acting logical. Intelligence and rationality aren't the same thing.Make no mistake, it’s not because people are stupid, says Whitney Phillips, a professor at Syracuse University who studies misinformation and how it is amplified online. These sorts of hoaxes have staying power because of the peculiar way people process information and arrive at beliefs. When confronted with new information, humans don’t always do the logical thing and evaluate it on its own merits, Phillips says. Instead, we often make snap decisions based on how the information adheres with our existing worldviews.
So she says it's not because people are stupid, then proceeds to describe that it's because people are acting stupid. Or, a nice a way of saying, people are not critically thinking, or even thinking enough to verify something, in the age of Google even, before sharing it.
That's not stupidity, that's gullibility. It's not surprising they fell for it, considering that you're an adult they implicitly trust. Plus, your lie isn't really any more outlandish than the stories of Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny that we already tell kids. There's a reason why Peanuts went with the story of the Great Pumpkin for its Halloween special.I mean, 3-5 year olds do that all the time, like the time I told my 4 year old cousins that we celebrate New Year's because of the Christmas Dodo, and during this day of the year they come out from underground to lay eggs, and if they wait outside very still and quietly, maybe they'll see it. And they believed it and then told others about the Christmas Dodo.
... I think they fall for it because they're stupid and too lazy to read the TOS...
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Thanks for your keen insight. Were you too stupid and too lazy to read this article? Because literally the entire point of it is that overlooking the *actual* reason (which you are doing) is problematic.
I read the article and disagree with its conclusion. The article quotes for example:
The brain is set up to give us easy answers … so if there's a hoax that appeals to people's emotions or intuition, it's going to trick people, because a lot of people just don't spend that much time thinking about the things that they see on social media
This pretty much sounds like humans are stupid to check and instead rely on "intuition". And don't spend much time thinking. Of course, one can disagree with my conclusion, that people are stupid because they don't think... but then I wonder what their definition of "stupid" is.
Plus, your lie isn't really any more outlandish than the stories of Santa Clause...
Make no mistake, it’s not because people are stupid, says Whitney Phillips, a professor at Syracuse University who studies misinformation and how it is amplified online. These sorts of hoaxes have staying power because of the peculiar way people process information and arrive at beliefs. When confronted with new information, humans don’t always do the logical thing and evaluate it on its own merits, Phillips says. Instead, we often make snap decisions based on how the information adheres with our existing worldviews.
So she says it's not because people are stupid, then proceeds to describe that it's because people are acting stupid. Or, a nice a way of saying, people are not critically thinking, or even thinking enough to verify something, in the age of Google even, before sharing it.
I mean, 3-5 year olds do that all the time, like the time I told my 4 year old cousins that we celebrate New Year's because of the Christmas Dodo, and during this day of the year they come out from underground to lay eggs, and if they wait outside very still and quietly, maybe they'll see it. And they believed it and then told others about the Christmas Dodo.
And last I checked, we don't consider 3-5 year olds not dumb either.
I wonder now if these sort of chains gain more traction in countries in which the population has lower quality/less education and vice versa.
... I think they fall for it because they're stupid and too lazy to read the TOS...
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Yes. Well. Isn't that what not being stupid means? Actually using your intelligence to make not-stupid decisions?But sometimes even for me an incoming hoax requires actual conscious processing, they are that good.
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Thanks for your keen insight. Were you too stupid and too lazy to read this article? Because literally the entire point of it is that overlooking the *actual* reason (which you are doing) is problematic.
I read the article and disagree with its conclusion. The article quotes for example:
The brain is set up to give us easy answers … so if there's a hoax that appeals to people's emotions or intuition, it's going to trick people, because a lot of people just don't spend that much time thinking about the things that they see on social media
This pretty much sounds like humans are stupid to check and instead rely on "intuition". And don't spend much time thinking. Of course, one can disagree with my conclusion, that people are stupid because they don't think... but then I wonder what their definition of "stupid" is.
... I think they fall for it because they're stupid and too lazy to read the TOS...
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If the TOS was partially all caps and/or bolded, had heightened language, was riddled with typos, and sounded super scary with a hint of conspiracy then I bet more people would read it.
I'm sorry I hurt your feelings. I made no moral judgement on lying to kids, I was expressing surprise that you don't understand the nature of a trusting child.So you lied to someone who trusts you and your take away from them believing you is that they're dumb? I think you learnt the wrong lesson here.Make no mistake, it’s not because people are stupid, says Whitney Phillips, a professor at Syracuse University who studies misinformation and how it is amplified online. These sorts of hoaxes have staying power because of the peculiar way people process information and arrive at beliefs. When confronted with new information, humans don’t always do the logical thing and evaluate it on its own merits, Phillips says. Instead, we often make snap decisions based on how the information adheres with our existing worldviews.
So she says it's not because people are stupid, then proceeds to describe that it's because people are acting stupid. Or, a nice a way of saying, people are not critically thinking, or even thinking enough to verify something, in the age of Google even, before sharing it.
I mean, 3-5 year olds do that all the time, like the time I told my 4 year old cousins that we celebrate New Year's because of the Christmas Dodo, and during this day of the year they come out from underground to pay eggs, and if they wait outside very still and quietly, maybe they'll see it. And they believed it and then told others about the Christmas Dodo.
And last I checked, we don't consider 3-5 year olds not dumb either.
I wonder now if these sort of chains gain more traction in countries in which the population has lower quality/less education and vice versa.
Oh noes! They be scarred for life! How DARE someone lie to a little kid about a made up thing for them to have some fun! What will they ever do when they find out Santa isn't real!
THINK OF THE CHILDREN!
(PS I think you missed the part where they were 4 year olds. I mean, maybe you're just surrounded by genius 4 year old engineers and physicians, but last I checked most children who are barely starting school aren't that smart yet because, you know, they literally still lack education. I think you also missed the point that one should expect more out of an adult, especially if they went to school, than acting like said 4 year old who still lack knowledge in general to things seen on the internet.)
I'm sorry I hurt your feelings. I made no moral judgement on lying to kids, I was expressing surprise that you don't understand the nature of a trusting child.So you lied to someone who trusts you and your take away from them believing you is that they're dumb? I think you learnt the wrong lesson here.Make no mistake, it’s not because people are stupid, says Whitney Phillips, a professor at Syracuse University who studies misinformation and how it is amplified online. These sorts of hoaxes have staying power because of the peculiar way people process information and arrive at beliefs. When confronted with new information, humans don’t always do the logical thing and evaluate it on its own merits, Phillips says. Instead, we often make snap decisions based on how the information adheres with our existing worldviews.
So she says it's not because people are stupid, then proceeds to describe that it's because people are acting stupid. Or, a nice a way of saying, people are not critically thinking, or even thinking enough to verify something, in the age of Google even, before sharing it.
I mean, 3-5 year olds do that all the time, like the time I told my 4 year old cousins that we celebrate New Year's because of the Christmas Dodo, and during this day of the year they come out from underground to pay eggs, and if they wait outside very still and quietly, maybe they'll see it. And they believed it and then told others about the Christmas Dodo.
And last I checked, we don't consider 3-5 year olds not dumb either.
I wonder now if these sort of chains gain more traction in countries in which the population has lower quality/less education and vice versa.
Oh noes! They be scarred for life! How DARE someone lie to a little kid about a made up thing for them to have some fun! What will they ever do when they find out Santa isn't real!
THINK OF THE CHILDREN!
(PS I think you missed the part where they were 4 year olds. I mean, maybe you're just surrounded by genius 4 year old engineers and physicians, but last I checked most children who are barely starting school aren't that smart yet because, you know, they literally still lack education. I think you also missed the point that one should expect more out of an adult, especially if they went to school, than acting like said 4 year old who still lack knowledge in general to things seen on the internet.)
As for you further comment, I simply don't equate knowledge with intelligence. Nobody is knowledgable in every area of life. Even some of the most technically competent people I know have massive blind spots.
I equate good education with intelligence, because good education will teach you strong critical thinking skills.
Knowledge and education level isn't everything to intelligence, but it's still a very big part of it. If it wasn't, there wouldn't be a need for schools to exist.
Modern education is an epic fail.
My wife did 25 years teaching and at least in K-12, it’s a joke.
Watch a family with kids at a restaurant or on a plane or church; virtually every child that can walk has a phone or tablet.
That’s the engagement today. Parents cede their fucking responsibility to raise a child and are somehow amazed when they move back home at 30, or shoot people.
And that very scenario means intelligence plunged over a cliff and Superman isn’t going to catch and save.
Lemmings rule...literally.
3-5 year olds are performing incredible amounts of critical thinking and analysis, given the fact that they have to learn how an entire world works, from language, social cues, how to walk, etc. What they lack is a breadth of experience to compare against and think 'hang on, what he just said contradicts something else I know about'. It's easy to get kids to believe in Santa Claus, because they don't know enough about the world yet to instinctively know why he shouldn't exist.Make no mistake, it’s not because people are stupid, says Whitney Phillips, a professor at Syracuse University who studies misinformation and how it is amplified online. These sorts of hoaxes have staying power because of the peculiar way people process information and arrive at beliefs. When confronted with new information, humans don’t always do the logical thing and evaluate it on its own merits, Phillips says. Instead, we often make snap decisions based on how the information adheres with our existing worldviews.
So she says it's not because people are stupid, then proceeds to describe that it's because people are acting stupid. Or, a nice a way of saying, people are not critically thinking, or even thinking enough to verify something, in the age of Google even, before sharing it.
I mean, 3-5 year olds do that all the time, like the time I told my 4 year old cousins that we celebrate New Year's because of the Christmas Dodo, and during this day of the year they come out from underground to lay eggs, and if they wait outside very still and quietly, maybe they'll see it. And they believed it and then told others about the Christmas Dodo.
And last I checked, we don't consider 3-5 year olds not dumb either.
I wonder now if these sort of chains gain more traction in countries in which the population has lower quality/less education and vice versa.
3-5 yo kids have pretty much zero capacity for critical thinking and analysis. They operate on instinct, trust of adults who care for them, and feel-good endorphins.
But adults, with their mature brains are different. It's not they they all lack lack critical thinking skill, though some certainly do, but as the article points out, they become victim to the particular hoax that tricks their particular brain. Like an infection that finds the right cell on which to bind.
Being an opsec minded IT geek I'm a highly suspicious person (probably too much) so I'm not prone to such hoaxes -- so far. But sometimes even for me an incoming hoax requires actual conscious processing, they are that good.
It might be because I've been doing internet searches since AltaVista, but my Google-Fu is apparently much stronger than most. I think most people don't know about putting quotes around words/phrases to get exact matches, the filter options, or search operators. I'll also revise my searches using different words and word order. I think most people never got any training in Google and/or learned anything more than "type what you want to find into the search bar."Maybe related to the reality that many people doesn't know how to Google?
In university, in workplace, it's baffling to see so many people doesn't know how to Google.
Sure they know Google. But they can't use it properly. They even need awhile just to think what to type.
When they do able to Google, they'll happily believe anything in the result, including from dubious blog source
The FDA is supposed to stamp down unsubstantiated claims.Unrelated but now I remembered that people also easily believe anything they saw including from dubious ads.
There's a "medicine", expensive "medicine" that claims to be able to heal all kinds of diseases (low blood pressure, high blood pressure, etc). People believe that that it's selling like hotcakes..
In the US, only 100% fruit juice can be called "juice." If it's less than that, it can be called "juice drink," "juice coctail," or "nectar" depending on the juice content.There's also so many Juice that labeled as "made from real fruit" and people think it means they are drinking healthy drinks, just like making a juice yourself. Despite in reality, the fruit is only a fraction (forgot how many percent, it's labeled in small prints) and it's full of sugar...
"Reality" shows are sometimes more accurately referred to as "unscripted," although it'd be even more accurate to say "not scripted beforehand." They're not dictating how people behave or what they'll say, but they'll manipulate people and situations to create tension and conflict. And if that conflict doesn't happen, they'll make it up in the edit via suggestive cuts and talking heads/narration. Often the talking head segments will have the people repeating dialogue prompts the producers have written to fit the narrative they're editing together.Similar case with "reality show" and "prank videos". People thinks it's real....
By ridiculing those who were duped instead of examining why it is that such a broad swath of people were primed to readily accept and amplify this misinformation, she says, we are missing the forest for the trees. And that doesn't bode well for any of the more serious disinformation challenges yet to come.
Modern education is an epic fail.
My wife did 25 years teaching and at least in K-12, it’s a joke.
Watch a family with kids at a restaurant or on a plane or church; virtually every child that can walk has a phone or tablet.
That’s the engagement today. Parents cede their fucking responsibility to raise a child and are somehow amazed when they move back home at 30, or shoot people.
And that very scenario means intelligence plunged over a cliff and Superman isn’t going to catch and save.
Lemmings rule...literally.
"The act of sharing something is often performative.”
Modern education is an epic fail.
My wife did 25 years teaching and at least in K-12, it’s a joke.
Watch a family with kids at a restaurant or on a plane or church; virtually every child that can walk has a phone or tablet.
That’s the engagement today. Parents cede their fucking responsibility to raise a child and are somehow amazed when they move back home at 30, or shoot people.
And that very scenario means intelligence plunged over a cliff and Superman isn’t going to catch and save.
Lemmings rule...literally.
But... Smartphones and tablets haven't even existed for 30 years... How are they moving back home at 30 as users of that technology when it hasn't even existed that long?...
Not to mention most of the most corrupt politicians are actually from the older generations.
While not incorrect, that's also not useful. Humans are inherently biased based on background, current status, and pretty much everything else.Don't expect serious news from social media publishers.
Don't expect truthful news from right or left-wing media.
Pick your news sources from those with the least bias.
If you want gossip, that's perfect for social media.
Make no mistake, it’s not because people are stupid, says Whitney Phillips, a professor at Syracuse University who studies misinformation and how it is amplified online. These sorts of hoaxes have staying power because of the peculiar way people process information and arrive at beliefs. When confronted with new information, humans don’t always do the logical thing and evaluate it on its own merits, Phillips says. Instead, we often make snap decisions based on how the information adheres with our existing worldviews.
So she says it's not because people are stupid, then proceeds to describe that it's because people are acting stupid. Or, a nice a way of saying, people are not critically thinking, or even thinking enough to verify something, in the age of Google even, before sharing it.
I mean, 3-5 year olds do that all the time, like the time I told my 4 year old cousins that we celebrate New Year's because of the Christmas Dodo, and during this day of the year they come out from underground to lay eggs, and if they wait outside very still and quietly, maybe they'll see it. And they believed it and then told others about the Christmas Dodo.
And last I checked, we don't consider 3-5 year olds not dumb either.
I wonder now if these sort of chains gain more traction in countries in which the population has lower quality/less education and vice versa.