If he is in the plastic surgery department, I could see it. Otherwise, how??b) I work in Health Care. I don't know what sites he visited but the potential is there that he could claim they were business-related.
If he is in the plastic surgery department, I could see it. Otherwise, how??b) I work in Health Care. I don't know what sites he visited but the potential is there that he could claim they were business-related.
Originally posted by afidel:
Originally posted by WingMan:
I learned that you can pull a drive out of the EVA for several seconds and pop it back in and the EVA will be all "Hey I know you, get back in your group!" and not have a problem. 2 disk failures and 2 lost loop connections in one disk group in one week, no data loss...
It's even a configurable timeout.
Just to follow up:Originally posted by bigmikebrooklyn:
Thanks Everyone for the ideas.
I think i have a design issue and bi-directional sync may not be an option. I have a conf. call with Netapp tomorrow, and you've all given me some good ideas. I'll talk with the experts and let you know what they suggest.
i'm thinking i'm going to seperate the HQ file shares and replicate one way for two sets of data, one to each location, overnight. possibly through DFS-R if I can get the VFM license.
Originally posted by WingMan:
I learned that you can pull a drive out of the EVA for several seconds and pop it back in and the EVA will be all "Hey I know you, get back in your group!" and not have a problem. 2 disk failures and 2 lost loop connections in one disk group in one week, no data loss...
Originally posted by bigmikebrooklyn:
Just to follow up:Originally posted by bigmikebrooklyn:
Thanks Everyone for the ideas.
I think i have a design issue and bi-directional sync may not be an option. I have a conf. call with Netapp tomorrow, and you've all given me some good ideas. I'll talk with the experts and let you know what they suggest.
i'm thinking i'm going to seperate the HQ file shares and replicate one way for two sets of data, one to each location, overnight. possibly through DFS-R if I can get the VFM license.
Thanks for all the Ideas and help, I just redid the logon script for the shares and it tested OK. if the branches want to access HQ data, they have to go through our network line, slight added latency, but not a killer by any means. each set of shares will be robo copy replicated overnight to the opposite machine and we'll have acceptable DR until we can get teh other netapp in and the snapmirror thing starts working it's "changed blocks only" magic for even quicker overnight replications (in the mean time, thanking stars we have riverbeds).
Lesson learned: though you are using vendors to lighten your work burden, just do the work yourself and use them for double checking, because you can't always rely on an honest assesment from someone trying to sell you something, in conjunction with an outsider not always understanding your internal environment / needs.
8 years on the job and I feel like a n00b *sigh {kicks can, draws circle with toe}.
Originally posted by akro:
Why does this make me feel sick?
Originally posted by WingMan:
I learned that you can pull a drive out of the EVA for several seconds and pop it back in and the EVA will be all "Hey I know you, get back in your group!" and not have a problem. 2 disk failures and 2 lost loop connections in one disk group in one week, no data loss...
Originally posted by WingMan:
I have no idea, why does it? Is it because the EVA is a smart device that has quite a bit of tolerance built into it?
Originally posted by akro:
Why does this make me feel sick?
Originally posted by Rick25:
That the version of Robocopy that ships with Windows 7 supports multi-thread copy.
That an x400 with older (more than a couple months) firmware?Originally posted by WingMan:
I learned that you can pull a drive out of the EVA for several seconds and pop it back in and the EVA will be all "Hey I know you, get back in your group!" and not have a problem. 2 disk failures and 2 lost loop connections in one disk group in one week, no data loss...
I learned that you can pull a drive out of the EVA for several seconds and pop it back in and the EVA will be all "Hey I know you, get back in your group!" and not have a problem.
That's cool that they finally added multi-threading to it. For the last couple months I've been using RichCopy for my multi-threaded needs, as that works on all the OS's I've tried it on.Originally posted by Rick25:
That the version of Robocopy that ships with Windows 7 supports multi-thread copy.
Originally posted by akro:
Don't worry I work for a vendor "HP" and I never trust a sales guy. Although I have met a few that are okay I tend to not trust them as they have too much vested. Maybe because I use to be a customer or maybe when they screw the pooch I am the guy who has to unscrew it. I dunno you decide...
Originally posted by Tsun:
Originally posted by WingMan:
I have no idea, why does it? Is it because the EVA is a smart device that has quite a bit of tolerance built into it?
Originally posted by akro:
Why does this make me feel sick?
Or maybe it doesn't have nearly the tolerance you think it does and akro knows something you don't. ----
Originally posted by Facekhan:
Originally posted by akro:
Don't worry I work for a vendor "HP" and I never trust a sales guy. Although I have met a few that are okay I tend to not trust them as they have too much vested. Maybe because I use to be a customer or maybe when they screw the pooch I am the guy who has to unscrew it. I dunno you decide...
I have often said my job description as a delivery engineer is to make it work the way the sales guy said it would even if he didn't know what he was talking about.
Originally posted by Rick25:
Originally posted by Rick25:
That the version of Robocopy that ships with Windows 7 supports multi-thread copy.
...and that it's native x64....which sucks if you're trying to use it on a x32 server....here's to a quick install just to grab 1 122kb file
There are other front-ends that add threading to the existing robocopy as well.You could use imagex.exe to mount the wim on the x32 installer and then extract the x32 version that way.
Now, that I can understand. I refused to do any pulling of the drives until the system was back to being in an "Ok" state even though they assured me it would be fine. Made sure the replication was working correctly and then did it. Being precautious is not a bad thing.Originally posted by akro:
No I think I am just overly paranoid. Of course in 10 years of storage work I have never lost a bit of customer data, there is always tomorrow.
Originally posted by Whittey:
That an x400 with older (more than a couple months) firmware?
-=Whittey=-
First thing we did when we saw our first RAID cabinet in '97 was throw a bunch of data on the drives, start up a process, and yank the drives. It is fun to see a spectacular failure when you yank two at once. That, or work for a phone company where you always work on things that are live. Either one will get you over the fear of whether a hot-swap will fail --Now, that I can understand. I refused to do any pulling of the drives until the system was back to being in an "Ok" state even though they assured me it would be fine. Made sure the replication was working correctly and then did it. Being precautious is not a bad thing.
Originally posted by ronelson:
First thing we did when we saw our first RAID cabinet in '97 was throw a bunch of data on the drives, start up a process, and yank the drives. It is fun to see a spectacular failure when you yank two at once. That, or work for a phone company where you always work on things that are live. Either one will get you over the fear of whether a hot-swap will fail --Now, that I can understand. I refused to do any pulling of the drives until the system was back to being in an "Ok" state even though they assured me it would be fine. Made sure the replication was working correctly and then did it. Being precautious is not a bad thing.--
Originally posted by Laslow:
I learned, or rather, confirmed, that the BC Provincial Government still makes no goddamn sense.
(Back in July)
My Boss: "We have a new position starting on September 21st, and need you to order a new laptop and get it setup for them."
Me: "Okay, I'll get the order off right away."
Boss: "No, you can't do that! You have to wait until September 21st, or they won't pay us back for it, and we'll be out-of-pocket for it."
Me: "Errr, so wait - we need the new laptop for as soon as they starts, but can't order it until they start?"
Boss: "Yep. Try to dig something up for them to use, okay?"
Originally posted by indigo258:
Originally posted by Laslow:
I learned, or rather, confirmed, that the BC Provincial Government still makes no goddamn sense.
(Back in July)
My Boss: "We have a new position starting on September 21st, and need you to order a new laptop and get it setup for them."
Me: "Okay, I'll get the order off right away."
Boss: "No, you can't do that! You have to wait until September 21st, or they won't pay us back for it, and we'll be out-of-pocket for it."
Me: "Errr, so wait - we need the new laptop for as soon as they starts, but can't order it until they start?"
Boss: "Yep. Try to dig something up for them to use, okay?"
If it makes you feel better, many companies are like this. So have comfort in the fact that the idiocracy does not exist in a vacuum, and that you arent crazy.
Originally posted by Laslow:
I learned, or rather, confirmed, that the BC Provincial Government still makes no goddamn sense.
Originally posted by Metzen:
I learned Windows Server 2003 R2 "Print Management" is retarded. There is no way to set a Default Printer? WTF kind of oversight is that!?!?!?!?
Originally posted by llib:
I am learning the Remedy training is incredibly boring. I will continue to learn that for the remainder of this long, long day... ----
Euri beat me to the punchline, dammit. The training is the highlight, at least you can sleep through that part!I am learning the Remedy training is incredibly boring. I will continue to learn that for the remainder of this long, long day... Frown
Originally posted by euri:
You'll also learn that most everyone who has used it hates Remedy.
Originally posted by montegard:
Originally posted by Metzen:
I learned Windows Server 2003 R2 "Print Management" is retarded. There is no way to set a Default Printer? WTF kind of oversight is that!?!?!?!?
I think even in 2008 you'd have to set that via a group policy. Print Management just lets you set printing defaults such as tray, color, things of that sort.
Originally posted by llib:
I am learning the Remedy training is incredibly boring. I will continue to learn that for the remainder of this long, long day... ----
Originally posted by Pokrface:
Oh, I've got a winner.
What did I learn today? I learned that the version of RHEL 4 I have deployed includes a feature wherein if there are a lot of delayed writes, the affected file system will be set to read-only in order to preserve its integrity. I found this out on a (very, very) busy VMware server, where the sudden conversion of the underlying file system to read-only, rather than protecting anything, instead caused the corruption of three VMs. All test boxes, sure, but it certainly wrecked my afternoon.
Make a change to protect data that corrupts data. Gee, thanks. This behavior is corrected in later 2.6 kernel revs, but arcane change control rules mean I can't upgrade. Damn it.