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[disarmyouwitha]

I mean, clearly they are distilling frontier models.

But a lot of the best Open research is coming out of Chinese labs. And a lot of the best local models are too.

So it's kinda like a Robin Hood type situation where they are stealing from these big labs and giving it away to all of us.

 

[disarmyouwitha]

They are not altruists.

I'd be looking behind the curtains for the data mining tools. If they're not there now, they will be in a future update.

China does nothing that doesn't benefit China.

Of course they aren't. They are doing it to catch up at 1/10 the cost by distilling the models and to undermine these billion dollar labs spending hundreds of millions of dollars a year to train the models, and probably to try and destabilize our economy which is more and more dependent on the growth of AI revenue.

In this case we (the regular people) are getting open weight models that we can run on our own hardware without any internet connection... And the Chinese labs are still publishing their research unlike basically all of the big US labs now.

I'm just hoping we get a local models that can do agentic coding before the big labs make it too expensive to use their services — I literally don't care who releases it.