Two major Windows 10 updates planned for next year

In October, there will also be a new LTSB version.

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[adminfoo]

Konservenknilch[/url]":gwo86xxa]let's shake hands

Done!

 

[Sixclaws]

anne9660[/url]":1u7kmohm]

TheShoxter[/url]":1u7kmohm]

lewax00[/url]":1u7kmohm]

Are they rolling out the Anniversary Update in waves? I did "check for updates" a day or two ago and nothing showed up for me. I figured out how to force it if I wanted to, just curious if this was working as intended.

Same here...meanwhile, a friend of mine already has it and hates it. So I assume they must be. Which I find annoying, since if so, there's absolutely zero transparency into the process so I have no idea when to expect it.

How can you hate the Anniversary Update if you are already using Windows 10? It's just a little more polished with some refinements and features added in. Nothing was removed. If anything, it's just a coat of polish.

That's not entirely true. They have taken away the ability to use certain group policy/registry tweaks in the Pro edition and limited those features to Enterprise editions:

http://winaero.com/blog/microsoft-locks ... ry-update/

http://www.ghacks.net/2016/07/28/micros ... ws-10-pro/


Personally, I'm really bummed about not being able to remove the stupid lock screen. That was one of the first things I tweaked. It made no sense to me on a non-touch device.

The conspiracy theory is to allow them to put more forced advertising in the Pro edition:

http://www.infoworld.com/article/310194 ... 0-pro.html


So much for "Professional".

The keyword here is Prosumerhttp://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=prosumer.

 

[Dilbert]

anne9660[/url]":2a7qzm1q]

TheShoxter[/url]":2a7qzm1q]

lewax00[/url]":2a7qzm1q]

Are they rolling out the Anniversary Update in waves? I did "check for updates" a day or two ago and nothing showed up for me. I figured out how to force it if I wanted to, just curious if this was working as intended.

Same here...meanwhile, a friend of mine already has it and hates it. So I assume they must be. Which I find annoying, since if so, there's absolutely zero transparency into the process so I have no idea when to expect it.

How can you hate the Anniversary Update if you are already using Windows 10? It's just a little more polished with some refinements and features added in. Nothing was removed. If anything, it's just a coat of polish.

That's not entirely true. They have taken away the ability to use certain group policy/registry tweaks in the Pro edition and limited those features to Enterprise editions:

http://winaero.com/blog/microsoft-locks ... ry-update/

http://www.ghacks.net/2016/07/28/micros ... ws-10-pro/


Personally, I'm really bummed about not being able to remove the stupid lock screen. That was one of the first things I tweaked. It made no sense to me on a non-touch device.

The conspiracy theory is to allow them to put more forced advertising in the Pro edition:

http://www.infoworld.com/article/310194 ... 0-pro.html


So much for "Professional".

Holy shit. MS released an OS so good the only thing people have left to bitch about is half a dozen group policies? Not bad. Not bad at all.

 

[bthylafh]

Entegy[/url]":1pl8h5aq]

IcyEyeG[/url]":1pl8h5aq]It will be interesting which defaults they'll change and what's going to be impossible to enable or disable with those updates.

None of my defaults were changed.

My file associations get changed whenever the Store upgrades the built-in Metro apps. It's infuriating.

 

[FelixA9]

How about a decent interface? That would be nice.

 

[zyr1987]

FelixA9[/url]":1jwv04ik]How about a decent interface? That would be nice.

The interface is already nice, IMO. What do you find wrong with it?

 

[bigslim]

adminfoo[/url]":shjb7ys1]

nehinks[/url]":shjb7ys1]Are they rolling out the Anniversary Update in waves? I did "check for updates" a day or two ago and nothing showed up for me. I figured out how to force it if I wanted to, just curious if this was working as intended.

Easiest way to force: go to this link and clicking the 'Get Anniversary Update Now' button:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/12387/

Anyone tried this for a VM install of Windows? Completely failed on mine and just wondering if it's my setup or that update method just doesn't work for a VM.

 

[unamike]

bigslim[/url]":17zjkj3x]

adminfoo[/url]":17zjkj3x]

nehinks[/url]":17zjkj3x]Are they rolling out the Anniversary Update in waves? I did "check for updates" a day or two ago and nothing showed up for me. I figured out how to force it if I wanted to, just curious if this was working as intended.

Easiest way to force: go to this link and clicking the 'Get Anniversary Update Now' button:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/12387/

Anyone tried this for a VM install of Windows? Completely failed on mine and just wondering if it's my setup or that update method just doesn't work for a VM.

Works fine on VMWare Fusion. Haven't tried VMware Workstation or Hyper-V.

 

[reckless76]

Infinity4011[/url]":z0gtq97x]

anne9660[/url]":z0gtq97x]

TheShoxter[/url]":z0gtq97x]

lewax00[/url]":z0gtq97x]

Are they rolling out the Anniversary Update in waves? I did "check for updates" a day or two ago and nothing showed up for me. I figured out how to force it if I wanted to, just curious if this was working as intended.

Same here...meanwhile, a friend of mine already has it and hates it. So I assume they must be. Which I find annoying, since if so, there's absolutely zero transparency into the process so I have no idea when to expect it.

How can you hate the Anniversary Update if you are already using Windows 10? It's just a little more polished with some refinements and features added in. Nothing was removed. If anything, it's just a coat of polish.

That's not entirely true. They have taken away the ability to use certain group policy/registry tweaks in the Pro edition and limited those features to Enterprise editions:

http://winaero.com/blog/microsoft-locks ... ry-update/

http://www.ghacks.net/2016/07/28/micros ... ws-10-pro/


Personally, I'm really bummed about not being able to remove the stupid lock screen. That was one of the first things I tweaked. It made no sense to me on a non-touch device.

The conspiracy theory is to allow them to put more forced advertising in the Pro edition:

http://www.infoworld.com/article/310194 ... 0-pro.html


So much for "Professional".

Removing the lock screen, to me at least, screams security hole. I mean, what's to stop someone from turning on your PC and mucking about with it while you're away from it?

It makes total sense to me, as a person who doesn't anyone else to gain unfettered access to my digital life, and as a person who handles sensitive trade secrets on my work laptop.

Do you mean aside from my front door? Or have I failed to keep up with advancements in our continual erosion of control and privacy and am expected to allow just anyone to walk into my home now?

 

[anne9660]

Infinity4011[/url]":1cjhaha3]

anne9660[/url]":1cjhaha3]

TheShoxter[/url]":1cjhaha3]

lewax00[/url]":1cjhaha3]

Are they rolling out the Anniversary Update in waves? I did "check for updates" a day or two ago and nothing showed up for me. I figured out how to force it if I wanted to, just curious if this was working as intended.

Same here...meanwhile, a friend of mine already has it and hates it. So I assume they must be. Which I find annoying, since if so, there's absolutely zero transparency into the process so I have no idea when to expect it.

How can you hate the Anniversary Update if you are already using Windows 10? It's just a little more polished with some refinements and features added in. Nothing was removed. If anything, it's just a coat of polish.

That's not entirely true. They have taken away the ability to use certain group policy/registry tweaks in the Pro edition and limited those features to Enterprise editions:

http://winaero.com/blog/microsoft-locks ... ry-update/

http://www.ghacks.net/2016/07/28/micros ... ws-10-pro/


Personally, I'm really bummed about not being able to remove the stupid lock screen. That was one of the first things I tweaked. It made no sense to me on a non-touch device.

The conspiracy theory is to allow them to put more forced advertising in the Pro edition:

http://www.infoworld.com/article/310194 ... 0-pro.html


So much for "Professional".

Removing the lock screen, to me at least, screams security hole. I mean, what's to stop someone from turning on your PC and mucking about with it while you're away from it?

It makes total sense to me, as a person who doesn't anyone else to gain unfettered access to my digital life, and as a person who handles sensitive trade secrets on my work laptop.

All that aside, I wish MIcrosoft would come out and show what they collect through telemetry, just to shut up all but the dumbest of tinfoil nutters. The only ads I see are within the Store, News, Weather, and other free apps.

One thing I do like about the AU, is the time displayed on my 2nd monitor's taskbar. Very useful while playing full screen games.

In this case, "Lock Screen" means the screen with pretty pictures and an over sized clock (oh - and apparently eventually ADVERTISEMENTS) that you have to press a key or whatever to dismiss in order to get the actual "Login Screen". It just seemed like more crud to me and I'd rather look at a login screen or a blank screen, not a clock the size of my head.

I still use a login and password, for as much good as it does on a Windows machine.

 

[ray101]

KevinM1[/url]":2m943yts]It froze at 62% installed the other day for me, so I'm a bit weary about trying again.

I tried to force the update twice 1st time froze at 7% for 3hours until i eventually turned the computer off. 2nd time got up to 35% before it froze again. I have now stopped trying to force the update and will wait to see if it downloads and installs naturally. Whenever that will be.

 

[Jon Smythe]

zyr1987[/url]":uo1qmkzp]

FelixA9[/url]":uo1qmkzp]How about a decent interface? That would be nice.

The interface is already nice, IMO. What do you find wrong with it?

It looks like it was drawn by a preschooler with a box of crayons with all the colors missing.

It's a mishmash of Windows 95 (Device Manager isn't even DPI aware), Windows 7 (Control Panel) and touch device (Settings) UI paradigms. The least the thousands of highly educated software engineers could do would be to spend some time giving it a consistent UI look'n'feel.

 

[Digger]

>>...another few rounds of bug fixing.<<

So, still beta then.

 

[jodyleebruchon]

Dilbert[/url]":1au4y08g]

anne9660[/url]":1au4y08g]

TheShoxter[/url]":1au4y08g]

lewax00[/url]":1au4y08g]

Are they rolling out the Anniversary Update in waves? I did "check for updates" a day or two ago and nothing showed up for me. I figured out how to force it if I wanted to, just curious if this was working as intended.

Same here...meanwhile, a friend of mine already has it and hates it. So I assume they must be. Which I find annoying, since if so, there's absolutely zero transparency into the process so I have no idea when to expect it.

How can you hate the Anniversary Update if you are already using Windows 10? It's just a little more polished with some refinements and features added in. Nothing was removed. If anything, it's just a coat of polish.

That's not entirely true. They have taken away the ability to use certain group policy/registry tweaks in the Pro edition and limited those features to Enterprise editions:

http://winaero.com/blog/microsoft-locks ... ry-update/

http://www.ghacks.net/2016/07/28/micros ... ws-10-pro/


Personally, I'm really bummed about not being able to remove the stupid lock screen. That was one of the first things I tweaked. It made no sense to me on a non-touch device.

The conspiracy theory is to allow them to put more forced advertising in the Pro edition:

http://www.infoworld.com/article/310194 ... 0-pro.html


So much for "Professional".

Holy shit. MS released an OS so good the only thing people have left to bitch about is half a dozen group policies? Not bad. Not bad at all.

No, these complaints are in addition to the other stuff that has been beaten to death. I have been curious about how many peoples' long video rendering jobs were trashed by the mandatory Windows 10 update rebooting.

 

[Chemical Tribe]

Installed it fresh via the USB tool. Not much different really. Whole crap load of junk apps that are annoying, and some of course you can't uninstall like xbox.

At least it didn't need activation, about the best part due to it being installed on a win 8 laptop.

Still ridiculous that the install tool can't completely erase a drive. Unless I'm missing something...

 

[SiberX]

parst181[/url]":267bdj90]

Entegy[/url]":267bdj90]

IcyEyeG[/url]":267bdj90]It will be interesting which defaults they'll change and what's going to be impossible to enable or disable with those updates.

None of my defaults were changed.

I didn't notice any defaults changed but it did rearrange my taskbar to put Edge and the Store first.

-Cortana re-enabled itself and stuck its icon back on my task bars, takes a registry edit or group policy change (for pro users) to re-disable it now
-The Windows Store and Edge re-added themselves to my task bar
-Windows Defender decided to promote itself to a task tray icon notifier, that periodically spews completely useless notifications for you to clear ("yep, I scanned the system, no problems found, just thought you didn't have enough to do so I'm notifying you just so you can clear the pointless notification")
-Face unlock appears to have changed its settings and it's no longer requiring me to rotate my face left/right before unlocking (this was previously a higher-security mode). I haven't found a way to re-enable this yet

Overall, I'm pretty happy with both Windows 10 and the Anniversary Update but having to constantly reapply my (mostly privacy) preferences is tiresome.

 

[hutsell]

Konservenknilch[/url]":b0wdurmq]

adminfoo[/url]":b0wdurmq]

Konservenknilch[/url]":b0wdurmq]

adminfoo[/url]":b0wdurmq]

Konservenknilch[/url]":b0wdurmq]Let's not jump to conclusions right away.

What conclusion did you think I had jumped to?

That someone who should know the right words didn't use them accordingly. I was pointing out that it might just have been an innocent mistake.

Aaanyhow, that's really not relevant to this topic.

I advanced no theory as to how that person came to use that malapropism. I simply pointed out that it was a malapropism. So I found it funny that you came to such a conclusion, completely unsupported by any words I wrote. Then chastised me for jumping to conclusions! Please don't take this personally; it's just a chuckle in an otherwise long day.

I agree we're offtopic and I'll stop now.

OK, one last offtopic: I guess I jumped on that because words like weary/wary are so easy to confuse as a non-native speaker. In my first few English classes i could never tell "weather" and "whether" apart, because they sound identical to me.

So no offence meant, let's shake hands and leave the thread to the usual Windows flamewars

Douglas Hofstadter's, "Analogy as the Core of Cognition" is another, more interesting explanation.

 

[GiantPotato]

Infinity4011[/url]":35sk1cm4]

anne9660[/url]":35sk1cm4]

TheShoxter[/url]":35sk1cm4]

lewax00[/url]":35sk1cm4]

Are they rolling out the Anniversary Update in waves? I did "check for updates" a day or two ago and nothing showed up for me. I figured out how to force it if I wanted to, just curious if this was working as intended.

Same here...meanwhile, a friend of mine already has it and hates it. So I assume they must be. Which I find annoying, since if so, there's absolutely zero transparency into the process so I have no idea when to expect it.

How can you hate the Anniversary Update if you are already using Windows 10? It's just a little more polished with some refinements and features added in. Nothing was removed. If anything, it's just a coat of polish.

That's not entirely true. They have taken away the ability to use certain group policy/registry tweaks in the Pro edition and limited those features to Enterprise editions:

http://winaero.com/blog/microsoft-locks ... ry-update/

http://www.ghacks.net/2016/07/28/micros ... ws-10-pro/


Personally, I'm really bummed about not being able to remove the stupid lock screen. That was one of the first things I tweaked. It made no sense to me on a non-touch device.

The conspiracy theory is to allow them to put more forced advertising in the Pro edition:

http://www.infoworld.com/article/310194 ... 0-pro.html


So much for "Professional".

Removing the lock screen, to me at least, screams security hole. I mean, what's to stop someone from turning on your PC and mucking about with it while you're away from it?

It makes total sense to me, as a person who doesn't anyone else to gain unfettered access to my digital life, and as a person who handles sensitive trade secrets on my work laptop.

All that aside, I wish MIcrosoft would come out and show what they collect through telemetry, just to shut up all but the dumbest of tinfoil nutters. The only ads I see are within the Store, News, Weather, and other free apps.

One thing I do like about the AU, is the time displayed on my 2nd monitor's taskbar. Very useful while playing full screen games.

You are confusing the lock screen and the logon screen.

The lock screen appears when the computer is left inactive, it tells you what the weather is, lists any notifications you have, and reminds you that you should buy Tomb Raider. When you left-click the mouse, you move to:

The logon screen, which is the screen that prompts for your password before you can use the computer again. The logon screen appears whether or not you have the lock screen enabled. So the lock screen really serves no purpose for desktop PCs, unless you're the type of user who keeps forgetting how great Tomb Raider is.

 

[solomonrex]

I've barely been able to check it out. I read the previews here, but was surprised at the non-obvious cues in the start menu. Flat logos of who knows what to do who knows what. It's strange that a decades old OS with a 21 year old start menu isn't obvious to a 16 year veteran user. But I need to check it out. I did sit down and get the bash working and that is something I've been wanting for years.

 

[JustQuestions]

Entegy[/url]":n88vqvd1]

IcyEyeG[/url]":n88vqvd1]It will be interesting which defaults they'll change and what's going to be impossible to enable or disable with those updates.

None of my defaults were changed.

I had Cortana completely disabled.

Now, it's enabled and impossible to turn off. This is with a "Professional" license.

Just another greedy data grab. They want that data so badly they are going after the < 5% of people who had Cortana turned off, with a sharp aggression.

You can't even use the search bar in Windows now without giving Microsoft the contents of it by agreement, with no alternative. If you want a snoop-free search, you have to specifically use a different one than the search bar next to the start menu.

I must say, I'm enjoying Fedora greatly days. I will probably always use Windows to some extent due to necessity and compatibility reasons, but larger and larger chunks of my time are going to the Linux environment.

Maybe I'm the outsider here, but I don't like my OS developer dictating to me the manner in which data flows through core functionality, such as a search bar. It's cool to implement a search bar in a nice location, but an expensive piece of software like Windows 10 Pro should at least let me choose whether the search bar represents a search bar or fucking Cortana/

 

[Bob.Brown]

TheShoxter[/url]":3tfsbu70]

lewax00[/url]":3tfsbu70]

Are they rolling out the Anniversary Update in waves? I did "check for updates" a day or two ago and nothing showed up for me. I figured out how to force it if I wanted to, just curious if this was working as intended.

Same here...meanwhile, a friend of mine already has it and hates it. So I assume they must be. Which I find annoying, since if so, there's absolutely zero transparency into the process so I have no idea when to expect it.

How can you hate the Anniversary Update if you are already using Windows 10? It's just a little more polished with some refinements and features added in. Nothing was removed. If anything, it's just a coat of polish.

Well, for one thing, it ate (as in totally removed) my copy of freecell.

It, and cards.dll, were in windows.old, and I've put them back, but it still torques me off.

 

[jodyleebruchon]

JustQuestions[/url]":1mzr07z5]

Entegy[/url]":1mzr07z5]

IcyEyeG[/url]":1mzr07z5]It will be interesting which defaults they'll change and what's going to be impossible to enable or disable with those updates.

None of my defaults were changed.

I had Cortana completely disabled.

Now, it's enabled and impossible to turn off. This is with a "Professional" license.

Just another greedy data grab. They want that data so badly they are going after the < 5% of people who had Cortana turned off, with a sharp aggression.

You can't even use the search bar in Windows now without giving Microsoft the contents of it by agreement, with no alternative. If you want a snoop-free search, you have to specifically use a different one than the search bar next to the start menu.

I must say, I'm enjoying Fedora greatly days. I will probably always use Windows to some extent due to necessity and compatibility reasons, but larger and larger chunks of my time are going to the Linux environment.

Maybe I'm the outsider here, but I don't like my OS developer dictating to me the manner in which data flows through core functionality, such as a search bar. It's cool to implement a search bar in a nice location, but an expensive piece of software like Windows 10 Pro should at least let me choose whether the search bar represents a search bar or fucking Cortana/

I specifically turned off Cortana and web search functionality, not because I care whether or not Microsoft can see me type "devmgmt.msc" or "cmd", but because I have absolutely zero need for those capabilities and they slow the search bar down. I'm sure some people think Cortana is awesome. I don't need it or want it at all. It serves no useful purpose. I have no need for Bing search in my local computer's search box; searching for things on the Internet is what the browser is for, and I'm perfectly capable of opening that when I need it, thank you.

When I use a computer, I use it to do this strange thing called "work." If they're going to force Cortana down my throat, I'll just leave a command prompt up 24/7 and call up my one-shot quickies through that instead. My gut tells me they won't be attaching telemetry and Bing search to cmd.exe anytime soon.

On a completely different note, wasn't there something a long time ago that would let you use KDE as the Windows shell instead of Explorer? Whatever happened to that? Has anyone looked into Explorer shell replacements that would eliminate the Cortana invasion (and the issue where searchui.exe glitch = no Start menu at all) entirely?

 

[mokinokaro]

JustQuestions[/url]":3d95txd4]
Now, it's enabled and impossible to turn off. This is with a "Professional" license.

Just another greedy data grab. They want that data so badly they are going after the < 5% of people who had Cortana turned off, with a sharp aggression.

Go into cortana and click the notebook. Log off of it and Cortana is completely neutered. No data gathering and no web searches.

It's named "Cortana" but it's the old offline search back.

 

[panton41]

jodyleebruchon[/url]":1uutjx9v]

Dilbert[/url]":1uutjx9v]

anne9660[/url]":1uutjx9v]

TheShoxter[/url]":1uutjx9v]

lewax00[/url]":1uutjx9v]

Are they rolling out the Anniversary Update in waves? I did "check for updates" a day or two ago and nothing showed up for me. I figured out how to force it if I wanted to, just curious if this was working as intended.

Same here...meanwhile, a friend of mine already has it and hates it. So I assume they must be. Which I find annoying, since if so, there's absolutely zero transparency into the process so I have no idea when to expect it.

How can you hate the Anniversary Update if you are already using Windows 10? It's just a little more polished with some refinements and features added in. Nothing was removed. If anything, it's just a coat of polish.

That's not entirely true. They have taken away the ability to use certain group policy/registry tweaks in the Pro edition and limited those features to Enterprise editions:

http://winaero.com/blog/microsoft-locks ... ry-update/

http://www.ghacks.net/2016/07/28/micros ... ws-10-pro/


Personally, I'm really bummed about not being able to remove the stupid lock screen. That was one of the first things I tweaked. It made no sense to me on a non-touch device.

The conspiracy theory is to allow them to put more forced advertising in the Pro edition:

http://www.infoworld.com/article/310194 ... 0-pro.html


So much for "Professional".

Holy shit. MS released an OS so good the only thing people have left to bitch about is half a dozen group policies? Not bad. Not bad at all.

No, these complaints are in addition to the other stuff that has been beaten to death. I have been curious about how many peoples' long video rendering jobs were trashed by the mandatory Windows 10 update rebooting.

I've done 8+ hour video render jobs (and 6+ hour 3D render jobs with CUDA) with no problem at all, even on the fast release cycle. If Windows detects you're doing something that take up more resources than sitting totally idle it simply delays it until the program has quit and the system is sitting with nothing better to do. I've never had it reboot spontaneously while the system was running anything less than entirely idle processes (typically while I'm asleep). It warns the motherfuck out of you before it reboots if you're actually busy (in the notification tray) and holds off if you're even web browsing. Go to bed with an idle system and it reboots.

 

[BasP]

KevinM1[/url]":3xfrleux]It froze at 62% installed the other day for me, so I'm a bit weary about trying again.

It was on 62% for the longest time for me as well, but eventually it started moving again. YMMV.

 

[Geebs]

zyr1987[/url]":1lja4zx8]

FelixA9[/url]":1lja4zx8]How about a decent interface? That would be nice.

The interface is already nice, IMO. What do you find wrong with it?

Wait, which interface are we talking about? The one that looks (and behaves) like Win3.1, the one that looks (and behaves) like Win95, the one that looks (and behaves) like Win98, the one that looks (and behaves) like WinXP or the one that looks like Windows 8? Or all of them together on the same screen?

 

[icejam_]

parst181[/url]":23mob2c8]

Entegy[/url]":23mob2c8]

IcyEyeG[/url]":23mob2c8]It will be interesting which defaults they'll change and what's going to be impossible to enable or disable with those updates.

None of my defaults were changed.

I didn't notice any defaults changed but it did rearrange my taskbar to put Edge and the Store first.

Xbox app and Solitaire were re-installed without asking. Windows Defender also wanted to let me know that it's there and it wants to be enabled. But I'm really disappointed that the installer in a 'Yes means no' fashion wanted to:

* Reset all privacy settings to Microsoft default, including setting the 'advertisement ID' and sending my search history to Redmond.
* Set Microsoft software as default (i.e Edge, Sway)

I explicitly disabled those last time around, why would you think that now I want to share that data?

 

[pika2000]

For those wanting the update "right away", which features of the anniv update that you must have? Just curious.

 

[fishbait]

JButler[/url]":dohy5k4g]

nehinks[/url]":dohy5k4g]Are they rolling out the Anniversary Update in waves? I did "check for updates" a day or two ago and nothing showed up for me. I figured out how to force it if I wanted to, just curious if this was working as intended.

None of my 4 PCs got the update. I did force the update but I wouldn't recommend it for average users. MS probably has a good reason to go slow on this.

i bet their going slow for 2 reasons
risk control - less damage if something slipped past QC.
and
propagation - i seem to recall a peer to peer component of the windows 10 update system.

 

[till213]

TheShoxter[/url]":1fper9bm]

lewax00[/url]":1fper9bm]

Are they rolling out the Anniversary Update in waves? I did "check for updates" a day or two ago and nothing showed up for me. I figured out how to force it if I wanted to, just curious if this was working as intended.

Same here...meanwhile, a friend of mine already has it and hates it. So I assume they must be. Which I find annoying, since if so, there's absolutely zero transparency into the process so I have no idea when to expect it.

How can you hate the Anniversary Update if you are already using Windows 10? It's just a little more polished with some refinements and features added in. Nothing was removed. If anything, it's just a coat of polish.

Ahem... *cough* *cough*... the possibility to conveniently prevent in the Settings that your local searches are sent to Microsoft (specifically: Bing, in order to also present "web results"), regardless of whether your Windows account is a "local" one or not.

You need to hack the Windows registry(tm) once more: you need to add a DWORD entry named "AllowCortana" and value "0" under this registry key here:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Windows Search

(alternatively for the "current" user: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\...)

Details here (German): http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/ ... 81148.html

 

[ChrisSD]

jodyleebruchon[/url]":29qnjczf]On a completely different note, wasn't there something a long time ago that would let you use KDE as the Windows shell instead of Explorer? Whatever happened to that? Has anyone looked into Explorer shell replacements that would eliminate the Cortana invasion (and the issue where searchui.exe glitch = no Start menu at all) entirely?

They appear to have given up porting the shell because very few Windows users were interested. Instead they're focusing their efforts on individual KDE applications.

 

[till213]

l27[/url]":sn80405g]From google search

According to the Technet blog, Windows 10 Anniversary Update, also known as version 1607, is available from the Volume Licensing Service Center or from the MSDN Subscriptions Center. As the ever-reliable Mary Jo Foley first spotted, if you’ve already deployed Windows 10, then the Anniversary Update will become available on August 16th through the Windows Server Update Services (WSUS) or the System Center Configuration Manager.

What happens if you don't approve the anniversary update?

Just as in real life: you simply won't get older.

 

[till213]

Entegy[/url]":16gkwtik]

IcyEyeG[/url]":16gkwtik]It will be interesting which defaults they'll change and what's going to be impossible to enable or disable with those updates.

None of my defaults were changed.

How did you verify? For instance the option to prevent Cortana (which you cannot completely disable either) to send your local searches to Bing has gone!

Did you check your Windows registry or what? Also refer to my previous post.

 

[matthijsvk]

I received the update yesterday. It messed up my entire hard drive (dual boot Linux Mint/ Windows 10). I couldn't fix it and ended up doing a clean install of Linux Mint and restoring my backups.

Apparently Windows removes other partitions during the update (wtf Microsoft !?!).

see
https://twitter.com/popey/status/760813314851086336
and
https://linux.slashdot.org/story/16/08/ ... partitions

 

[IcyEyeG]

JustQuestions[/url]":1dsepepl]

I had Cortana completely disabled.

Now, it's enabled and impossible to turn off. This is with a "Professional" license.

Just another greedy data grab. They want that data so badly they are going after the < 5% of people who had Cortana turned off, with a sharp aggression.

You can't even use the search bar in Windows now without giving Microsoft the contents of it by agreement, with no alternative. If you want a snoop-free search, you have to specifically use a different one than the search bar next to the start menu.

I must say, I'm enjoying Fedora greatly days. I will probably always use Windows to some extent due to necessity and compatibility reasons, but larger and larger chunks of my time are going to the Linux environment.

Maybe I'm the outsider here, but I don't like my OS developer dictating to me the manner in which data flows through core functionality, such as a search bar. It's cool to implement a search bar in a nice location, but an expensive piece of software like Windows 10 Pro should at least let me choose whether the search bar represents a search bar or fucking Cortana/

Today mandatory Cortana, tomorrow mandatory Windows Store. Hopefully just for Home users though.

 

[BobsYourUncleBob]

Geebs[/url]":39efm95w]

zyr1987[/url]":39efm95w]

FelixA9[/url]":39efm95w]How about a decent interface? That would be nice.

The interface is already nice, IMO. What do you find wrong with it?

Wait, which interface are we talking about? The one that looks (and behaves) like Win3.1, the one that looks (and behaves) like Win95, the one that looks (and behaves) like Win98, the one that looks (and behaves) like WinXP or the one that looks like Windows 8? Or all of them together on the same screen?

What you see before you is MS' response to having been denied use of "Metro" branding. Faced with that loss, MS regrouped & focused efforts upon "Window's Retro".

Think of it as a nostalgic scroll down memory lane; everything from 1X1 to 4X16. And of course these images are triggers, sparking memories of past loves, endless summers, the day you met "That Very Special Someone" & of course epic blue screens that blew at the absolutely worst possible moment.

Almost like it's " Windows To Your Life!™ "

(Hey ... musicians & marketers pluck similar strings on late-night TV, apparently to both good effect & good margins!)

 

[isparavanje]

BobsYourUncleBob[/url]":1mqqwcln]

Geebs[/url]":1mqqwcln]

zyr1987[/url]":1mqqwcln]

FelixA9[/url]":1mqqwcln]How about a decent interface? That would be nice.

The interface is already nice, IMO. What do you find wrong with it?

Wait, which interface are we talking about? The one that looks (and behaves) like Win3.1, the one that looks (and behaves) like Win95, the one that looks (and behaves) like Win98, the one that looks (and behaves) like WinXP or the one that looks like Windows 8? Or all of them together on the same screen?

What you see before you is MS' response to having been denied use of "Metro" branding. Faced with that loss, MS regrouped & focused efforts upon "Window's Retro".

Think of it as a nostalgic scroll down memory lane; everything from 1X1 to 4X16. And of course these images are triggers, sparking memories of endless summers, past loves, & epic blue screens that blew at the worst possible time.

(Hey ... musicians & marketers pluck similar strings on late-night TV, apparently to both good effect & good margins!)

Yeah, of course! Because Microsoft was denied use of "Metro" by trademark infringement, they changed the design of their entire operating system instead of just using a different name! Damn, it's so obvious!

No seriously, how do you even think that's a plausible explanation.

 

[JVSTINIVS76]

Dr. Pizza, afraid to say, but you have become a caricature of your own self my friend.

 

[BobRobbyBoy]

Windows 7 Pro hit near perfection. But what would evil Microsoft sell you next year if Windows 7 was good for the next 10 years ? So evil Microsoft came up with an evil plan. Destroy Windows 7. That's why they hastily jumped ahead in version numbers. This makes users feel windows 7 is way obsolete. So after getting the lemmings of the ignorant masses to follow Microsoft's gift horse, then Microsoft will spring their trap. Yes, Microsoft will require you to pay them an annual rental fee! Fact is, 10 is made for pop culture folks and not the professionals such as engineers, architects, mathematicians, composers and any highly skilled worker who uses expensive complex software. Good luck with your Windows 10 if Microsoft was able to sneak it's venom on your machine

 

[BobsYourUncleBob]

isparavanje[/url]":2tjha64l]

BobsYourUncleBob[/url]":2tjha64l]

Geebs[/url]":2tjha64l]

zyr1987[/url]":2tjha64l]

FelixA9[/url]":2tjha64l]How about a decent interface? That would be nice.

The interface is already nice, IMO. What do you find wrong with it?

Wait, which interface are we talking about? The one that looks (and behaves) like Win3.1, the one that looks (and behaves) like Win95, the one that looks (and behaves) like Win98, the one that looks (and behaves) like WinXP or the one that looks like Windows 8? Or all of them together on the same screen?

What you see before you is MS' response to having been denied use of "Metro" branding. Faced with that loss, MS regrouped & focused efforts upon "Window's Retro".

Think of it as a nostalgic scroll down memory lane; everything from 1X1 to 4X16. And of course these images are triggers, sparking memories of endless summers, past loves, & epic blue screens that blew at the worst possible time.

(Hey ... musicians & marketers pluck similar strings on late-night TV, apparently to both good effect & good margins!)

Yeah, of course! Because Microsoft was denied use of "Metro" by trademark infringement, they changed the design of their entire operating system instead of just using a different name! Damn, it's so obvious!

No seriously, how do you even think that's a plausible explanation.

So the "/s" apparently is necessary ...