Twitter starts purging inactive accounts after quiet policy change

IncorrigibleTroll

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While some are also present in the Fediverse, there are still a good number of climate change scientists present on Twitter only (or I'm too stupid to find their mastodon handle). I like their informative tweets. And no, I don't read the responses to the original tweet. If you've read one denier shitstorm, you've read them all.

Sheesh. You'd think they'd at least come up with some new material instead of continuing to play the old hits like some sort of sad cover band. Sunspots! Urban heat islands! CO2 is good for plants! Natural variability! Vast scientific conspiracy! Yawn. Where's the creativity?
 
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We're now forced to ask ourselves, yet again, how long Elongate can continue and whether it will eventually flag. There isn't even any stiff competition for dumbest unforced errors right now, so it's providing a valuable Schadenfreude source to American society, but is this really a good use of Elon's time? Tune in next week for more.
 
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I deleted my account, I very much doubt it will ever actually be purged and if I allowed twitter's tracking stuff they'd be using it to sell info to data brokers until the company is dissolved.

Same, you may be unable to get the account back but Facehugger will keep the data for all eternity.
 
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Of two minds on this one. I am typically all for inactive data purge. Be it user data or other information which should be expunged after a while. Just seems like good cleanup to have.

This move by Musk seems to have a different idea in mind which is where I don't think I can get behind. He seems to be trying to weaponize a policy against someone specific. That's not how these things should work. If a user hasn't logged in and effectively abandoned their account, maybe its a good idea to eventually remove the stored information. In order to be fair about it, I'd venture to say that at least a year should be given, nothing less. Also, the account shouldn't be "required" to do anything else like post or whatever. That just seems unnecessary and forceful... again seemingly aiming at particular users/platforms.
 
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As long as the new owner doesn't use the NPR logo or any copyrighted materials ...
I can make my new social media platform and create an NPR account on it without having to turn it over to NPR. They don't own the acronym.

Impersonating NPR without any of the logos, names, or materials ? If it's parody, it's clearly legal. If it's intentionally malicious, it can fall in the defamation case. But otherwise it mostly smells like First territory and a lawyer may be worth the fee.
I believe grabbing NPR is one of those “it depends” things. I recall in the early days of the web, a person registered peta.org and set up a web site “People Eating Tasty Animals” with recipes for preparing meat dishes and an archive of death threat e-mails sent to the site by angry vegans. The animal rights organization was able to successfully wrestle the domain name away from the parody web site. I don’t recall if it was a call by the registrar Network Solutions to yank the registration, if the registrant was coerced into giving up the name, or if it landed court.

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SeanJW

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I wonder what the legal ramifications of this policy change might be, considering users dont seem to have been notified of any change in the terms of service with regard to this policy.

"You have to check our policy regularly for things we might slip in otherwise unnoticed" does not make for a sound legal strategy in many countries...

Yeah, rather than sending emails out informing people formally, it might just be quicker and more accurate to send the checkin diffs directly.... it'll be direct and keep up with the changes....
 
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Is there a chance we can get Musk to buy Dish Network? Despite its own best efforts, Dish hasn’t been able to finish itself off.
I pre-empted Twitter several months ago, as I couldn't see the platform stabilising, so deleted my accounts.
Now to get Facebook to do the same.
I haven't logged on in nearly two years, but last time I tried to delete my accounts I couldn't because I was a moderator for a page where the admin had gone AWOL, so FB wouldn't let me delete my account, or something like that.
Mark Zuckerberg for all his flaws, seems to be a more astute operator than Elon Musk. He knows that users are product, and engaging in personal vendettas against product is a dumb thing to do.
"Move fast and break things" is ok up to a point, but being so offensive and arbitrary with decisions that a good portion of your product wants to leave is not.
A rocket doesn't have hurt feelings if it explodes, and another one can be made within months, but humans have long memories, and once they're gone, they're not likely to be easily replaced.
Social media is not rocket science, but that seems to be something Elon doesn't get.
It will be an interesting test of the move fast, break things philosophy versus staid bureaucracy. I’m thinking Musk’s Starship versus the NASA Orion/Artemis. Right now, both those projects are moving towards or are already at massive schedule slip. We’ll have to see if repeatedly blowing up rockets versus hyper analysis before doing anything is the less costly or faster way to achieve the ultimate goal.

Personally, I’d feel a little safer as the astronaut boarding the Artemis capsule, knowing that probably every known failure scenario has been simulated versus a Starship which was destructively tested until it worked.

We’re also seeing the move fast, break things engineering model perhaps not scale so well with the Tesla a Cybertruck project which is several years behind schedule and apparently not shipping product in quantity until 2024.

There also is a surprising amount of radio silence from Neuralink and The Boring Company of late.
 
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I believe grabbing NPR is one of those “it depends” things. I recall in the early days of the web, a person registered peta.org and set up a web site “People Eating Tasty Animals” with recipes for preparing meat dishes and an archive of death threat e-mails sent to the site by angry vegans. The animal rights organization was able to successfully wrestle the domain name away from the parody web site. I don’t recall if it was a call by the registrar Network Solutions to yank the registration, if the registrant was coerced into giving up the name, or if it landed court.

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Counterpoint - Nissan Motors still does not own nissan.com, despite many years of litigation and attempts to take the name from Uzi Nissan, who unfortunately died in 2020 due to COVID.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Motors_v._Nissan_Computer
 
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I believe grabbing NPR is one of those “it depends” things. I recall in the early days of the web, a person registered peta.org and set up a web site “People Eating Tasty Animals” with recipes for preparing meat dishes and an archive of death threat e-mails sent to the site by angry vegans. The animal rights organization was able to successfully wrestle the domain name away from the parody web site. I don’t recall if it was a call by the registrar Network Solutions to yank the registration, if the registrant was coerced into giving up the name, or if it landed court.
The peta.org incident landed in court, and the ruling against the parody website holder seems primarily down to the courts determination that the owner was cybersquatting, since he registered other domains for cybersquatting, and had urged PETA to make an offer for the domain.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_for_the_Ethical_Treatment_of_Animals_v._Doughney
A later ruling held that parody was a valid use of a domain that someone else may otherwise have a trademark on or other right to:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamparello_v._Falwell
The US courts have ruled that using the domain of a trademarked company may be considered trademark infringement:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_Parenthood_Federation_of_America,_Inc._v._Bucci
Meanwhile, Nissan Computer Corporation is still defiant against Nissan Motors' attempts to claim the domain.
https://nissan.com/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Motors_v._Nissan_Computer
 
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I created an account way back when on a lark (never tweeted, never followed anyone). When I tried to log in soon after the Elon acquisition, it complained it had been inactive too long, I would have to reset my password, AND give it a phone number. Fuck that. So I just left it dormant. I'm glad they're finishing the job for me now :)
 
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And despite never tweeting, I heard about it.
Because journalists treat twitter posts as press releases. It's faster and easier than waiting for a properly formatted press release on a company/country/personality's website.

If they stopped, the whole house of cards would collapse much faster.
I would like them to stop.
The journalists have been hugely disappointing thru this whole saga.
 
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Sheesh. You'd think they'd at least come up with some new material instead of continuing to play the old hits like some sort of sad cover band. Sunspots! Urban heat islands! CO2 is good for plants! Natural variability! Vast scientific conspiracy! Yawn. Where's the creativity?
You left out their creative (mis)interpretations of past statements.

You, know, if a politician once said "By $DATE it will be too late to prevent $X from happening," they somehow process that into "Climate scientists said $X would already happen by $DATE! WHY ISN'T KEVIN COSTNER SAILING HIS BOAT DOWN WALL STREET? Checkmate!"
 
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I cannot access my account since some y*rk is asking me to pay for blue sh*t or remove my sms verification, since neither of the options are an option for me I wont access it anymore, you are more than welcome to delete my account y*rk!

FWIW and if you wish to know, you can download an authenticator app and use that instead. It's actually more secure than an SMS verification.
 
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Some dared to dream that Twitter's decision means that long-inactive coveted handles might soon become available. Right now, it does not seem like Twitter has any intention of letting users claim inactive usernames, but Musk moves fast, and that policy could change any day. Twitter's policy still states that "we cannot release inactive usernames at this time."
Twitter "policy" is whatever Elon Musk thinks up that morning while sitting on the toilet with his armed guards outside the door.
 
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Bernardo Verda

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I created an account way back when on a lark (never tweeted, never followed anyone). When I tried to log in soon after the Elon acquisition, it complained it had been inactive too long, I would have to reset my password, AND give it a phone number. Fuck that. So I just left it dormant. I'm glad they're finishing the job for me now

Go ahead and delete it. You suspended my account due to a couple of comments I made months ago. I appealed that move and absolutely nothing has happened since. I'm not retracting my comments just to get the account unlocked, so... Do your worst.

My case was a bit of both; my account got locked over a plainly innocuous comment, and I couldn't even access the appeal procedure without giving Twitter my phone number first.
Perhaps if Twitter hadn't already, repeatedly staged annual attempts to coercively extract my PII (by not letting me access my account for a few weeks), I might have caved... but as things were, I wasn't going to trust even pre-Elon Twitter that far...

It's a shame -- there was some reallly good stuff on Twitter, if one was willing to put in a little effort to vet the feeds one followed.
 
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No no, I think it should be something like:

This post is compelled speech: Musk is a (*$&%$ing *($&^hole and a free-speech absolutist.
No, NPR is a professional organization. Something like the following would be more appropriate: "This is the NPR Twitter account. See <URL on NPR's website> for NPR's official policy on its use of Twitter."
 
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Google put much $ into it, and even they weren't able to abandon some stuff because there's simply no alternative to Oracle at that scale for some products.
A prior poster provided a link to a video where the team working on the transition for Amazon celebrated the turning off of the last Oracle database.
 
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virtue signaling
You mean like coming to a website and making sure everyone knows what actions you do and don't value?

Listen, scooby snacks, when a person like yourself uses simplistic catchphrases, you aren't insulting anyone else or making a grand point, you're telling everyone that, like your cliches, you are yourself quite simple. "Virtue signaling" is a null phrase. It means nothing. The very act of saying "virtue signaling" is itself signaling your virtues. Like "politically correct" before it, stupid people will use phrases they don't understand thinking they sound clever, never realizing how utterly banal they sound. Someone arguing against "politically correctness" is, by the very definition, merely trying to argue what should and should not be "correct". Someone mewling about virtue signaling is signaling their virtues.

Thanks for stopping by here at Ars, where stupid arguments from stupid people go to be mocked mercilessly and die.
 
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