Twitter missed payroll for some European staff this month

Employees hit with overdraft fees after paychecks fail to show up on schedule.

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[stormcrash]

You skipped a favorite part of her skit, "Is this the party to whom I am speaking?"

I know, I was in a crunch for time and couldn't think of a funny way for her to mangle his name like Mr. Veedle

 

[terrydactyl]

And that's just the US. European labour courts will loooove this. That's gonna be a lot of penalties, awards and, as one big difference between US and EU legal systems, legal and lawyer fees of BOTH parties (as a rule in Europe, losing side has to pay all legal fees).

I'm curious if anyone knows the UK's rules on stiffing you employees?

 

[Celery Man]

Because it's a related topic? There's no need to keep comments constrained to the exact content of the article. People are talking about hydrogen in general on the Rolls-Royce hydrogen engine article.

What's your point though? Talking about the wider uses and specifics of H2 in the Rolls-Royce article makes sense and adds to the discussion, but you're just critiquing the employees that overdrafted for not being more financially stable (without knowing anything about their personal lives and obligations). It doesn't add anything to the conversation, much less anything positive.

 

[Mardaneus]

My favorite is all the anti-Apple rants with a "Twitter for iPhone" signature at the bottom.

For me it is claiming that the publicly known % that Apple takes from anything bought through the store as a secret tax that Apple imposes.

And the meme giving Musk the choice of letting that 30% be stolen by Apple or going to war with Apple.

 

[Mardaneus]

double post.

 

[Celery Man]

After someone here badgered me, I watch some of the interviews of Musk conducted by Everyday Astronaut. Musk knows as much about code as he does about aerospace engineering: zero. He's a presenter, and not even a good one. He relishes attention and learns just enough to stay in the spot light. But he's tipped his hand enough times to reveal he doesn't know anything modern, if he ever knew anything at all.

And how could he? If he's not on Twitter, he's on someone's podcast or some woman. Twitter is likely the only work he's done in ages.

I feel like his bromance with Tim Dodd is what so many of his stans aspire to. That if they simp enough, they too can be BFFs with Elon and get invited to Starbase and talk about aerospikes!

 

[Longmile149]

Well, you wouldn't start from here...

Seriously though, it's got to be the corporate equivalent of a password reset, but with access to millions of pounds at stake. Guessing that a bank is going to need a lot of confirmation before they give access to a new user, at least in part because this is the exact moment you'd expect a scammer to be trying to game access to Twitter's accounts and the ability to transfer large amounts of money to multiple accounts.

Been thinking a lot about this high-profile phishing and invoice fraud scam from a few years ago that was successful against large, well-run companies with healthy institutional knowledge and stable operations.

The chaos Musk is creating has got to be making life (more) miserable for whatever security people Twitter has left.

 

[Captain Trips]

Unfortunately expected when most of your payroll staff quit or were fired, yet Twitter PR double speak makes it sound like they are surprised there is an issue.

I think Twitter was surprised so many people actually did get paid...

"I didn't realize we have enough money to make payroll in that many countries. OK, we have another pay period until everything blows up in our faces"

 

[mxgs]

My favorite is all the anti-Apple rants with a "Twitter for iPhone" signature at the bottom.

Missed that. Can't make that stuff up.

As for the posts, personally I'm quite partial to the nightstand one, with the oversized compensator gun.

 

[Dogs in a Pile]

Twitter did not respond to a request to comment on this story.

The chief douche-bag has probably eliminated the PR dept. like he did with Tesla.

 

[AmanoJyaku]

I feel like his bromance with Tim Dodd is what so many of his stans aspire to. That if they simp enough, they too can be BFFs with Elon and get invited to Starbase and talk about aerospikes!

It's not even a bromance, it's a one-sided longing. Dodd clearly fawns over Musk, and Musk clearly doesn't give a damn. Dodd is a means to an end, which is to spread the gospel of Musk without involving traditional media, or anyone capable of asking a question that would expose Musk for a fraud.

 

[aPerson#847]

Everyone knows Payroll is an unnecessary expense.

 

[Celery Man]

Seriously for anyone who hasn't, check out Elon's twitter feed. This guy is in full blown paranoid meltdown mode. Yikes.

Here's a non-twitter link: www.nitter.net/elonmusk

Umm... holy shit:

https://nitter.net/elonmusk/status/1597165510595989504#m
EDIT: The gun is a replica from a video game. Which either makes this better or worse, I'm not sure.

I know he has to watch his back, but something about him having a gun - and then flaunting it on Twitter - is fucking terrifying. I can't help but hear his self-proclaimed paranoia saying "come fuck with me, I dare you" while posting that picture.

Edit: Diet Coke, the beverage of choice of Elon's senpai Trump. And a musket! Maybe Elon really does think it's a few centuries ago. Has he gone on a rant about Babbage not even being able to code yet?

 

[s73v3r]

To be fair, hearing from people who try to get apps on the app store, it sounds like a normal day at Apple for any app.

It really isn't. Unless you're trying to do something skirting the regulations, the majority of people don't have a problem.

 

[sqlrob]

I know he has to watch his back, but something about him having a gun

That's a prop from a video game, not a gun.

 

[The Aloof Alot]

I haven't checked prices lately, but in the Valley, the cost of a single bedroom apartment can run $2K/mo, probably more now. So, that's a $24K contract right there. Forget about buying a house. Even tiny little houses can run for over $1m. The real-estate market has started to come back to reality a little bit lately, but it's always ridiculously high out here because you have these large foothills that limit the amount of land available for building on without some hardcore engineering.

So a lot of people's paychecks go to just rent. Financial advisors recommend not paying more than 1/3 of your salary on rent, but it's not uncommon for people in this area to spend upwards of 50% on just rent. Then there's all your other expenses. Maybe you have kids, or your spouse is out of work, or you get hit with a massive medical bill. It's pretty easy for even a $130K+ salary to not go that far out here.

The problem with rent is the exact problem that also exists in many European capitals, at least if you want to live in a place that isn't 1) very far from your work, 2) in a bad part of town, and 3) in crap condition. Also, rent around here tends to not be all-in, so on top of the 2k/month you get water, heating, electricity, and service costs, which due to the power crisis tends to have ballooned to 3-5 times what it was a year ago.

 

[Deleted member 553147]

A company that fails to pay its employees on time is a dying company. Not a struggling company, not a company in a slump, not a company with a bad outlook - it’s an actual dying company. There’s no coming back from that, there’s no coming back from dying.

 

[MattWPBS]

Umm... holy shit:

https://nitter.net/elonmusk/status/1597165510595989504#m
I know he has to watch his back, but something about him having a gun - and then flaunting it on Twitter - is fucking terrifying. I can't help but hear his self-proclaimed paranoia saying "come fuck with me, I dare you" while posting that picture.

Edit: Diet Coke, the beverage of choice of Elon's senpai Trump. And a musket! Maybe Elon really does think it's a few centuries ago. Has he gone on a rant about Babbage not even being able to code yet?

It's a toy gun (serious - Deus Ex replica), and he's drinking caffeine free Diet Coke.

He's just a wee bit pathetic, even by edgelord standards.

 

[silverboy]

"Anyone who knows how to pay our employees, report to the 10th floor.

Bring screenshots of the10 most salient checks you've processed."

Now that is brilliant. Kudos!

 

[CraigJ ✅]

Umm... holy shit:

https://nitter.net/elonmusk/status/1597165510595989504#m
I know he has to watch his back, but something about him having a gun - and then flaunting it on Twitter - is fucking terrifying. I can't help but hear his self-proclaimed paranoia saying "come fuck with me, I dare you" while posting that picture.

A wheel gun? Seriously? the 1,800's called - they want their weapon back. If he was serious he'd have tactical training and carry something with 15 in the handle, 1 in the chamber, cocked and locked.

If Elon's really worried he should stay under cover. The types of people that are going to be out to get him for realz are going to be the type that can reach out and touch him from a kilometer away...

Oh, and the obligatory; Christ, what an asshole.

 

[aerogems]

I know it is a broken idea.
The insane time frame to 'review' that number of people for one.
Not having time to get anyone (including himself) that Musk trust to even start understanding the code base so they could at least understand if what they saw made sense.

But I just can't wrap my head around the demand of 10 semi-random screenshots of recent code where all he (or those people he'd trust to work on the code base) would have had to do is plug in the name of the person to be reviewed and the time period to get a before/after (generally with why comments) of what he was asking for.

Most of the other things Musk has done at Twitter are eminently explainable on the tenuous grasp of reality a narcissist has, for this I'm missing something.

To be fair... does it say anywhere that it has to be code contributed to Twitter? As in, could it just be code from any random project you may be working on? And how would they know if I took some random examples off Stack Exchange, changed some variable and function names, and then passed it off as my own? Or, let's say I typed out an example from a book on Ruby on Rails. I technically wrote the code because I physically typed it all out.

But in all seriousness, this is just a rather ham-fisted effort to create a pretext to fire more people. These managers probably have "for cause" clauses in their contracts, or some kind of lucrative golden parachute Twitler doesn't want to pay if they're fired without cause, so he's creating an artificial scenario where most, if not all, managers are expected to fail and can thus be fired for cause.

 

[OrvGull]

For me it is claiming that the publicly known % that Apple takes from anything bought through the store as a secret tax that Apple imposes.

And the meme giving Musk the choice of letting that 30% be stolen by Apple or going to war with Apple.

If only Epic had thought to shitpost about it using old memes, instead of going to court...

 

[DCStone]

Funny: after a few decades in the Army, most Cavalry officers I know don't know how to ride horses. They are quite proficient in Armoured Recon or Fighting Vehicles (ARV / AFV) though. This quote would be, like so much else that seems to be happening at Twitter, accurate early last century (noting kLOC would have been hard to measure in 1920).

Those in the Blues and Royals are proficient at both. They are, however, a rather exceptional regiment.

 

[aerogems]

A wheel gun? Seriously? the 1,800's called - they want their weapon back. If he was serious he'd have tactical training and carry something with 15 in the handle, 1 in the chamber, cocked and locked.

If Elon's really worried he should stay under cover. The types of people that are going to be out to get him for realz are going to be the type that can reach out and touch him from a kilometer away...

Oh, and the obligatory; Christ, what an asshole.

That photo is such obvious bullshit. That gun looks like a movie prop or something you'd buy at GameStop. If it were real, it'd probably snap Twitler's bony little wrists if he ever tried to fire it. The antique pistol is probably a replica as well. You can also tell the person from that photo has never heard of a coaster.

 

[rnturn]

I miss Fry's so much.

Same. A local Micro Center suffices for many things but there's a lot less of a selection than I had gotten used to.

 

[s73v3r]

And just to say it for a second time.

Or, and even better, just don't make the comment at all. Literally nothing good will come from you acting smugly superior to people who didn't get paid on time. There is literally no reason for you to mention it, and literally no justification for doing so.

 

[Chuckstar]

An overdraft fee could be as simple as "I wrote a check yesterday, but I'm not worried about overdraft because my payroll direct deposit will hit tomorrow, otherwise I'd move some money from the savings account." Then tomorrow comes around...

It doesn't have to be that there's no savings. It only has to be that the savings aren't in the checking account right now.

 

[s73v3r]

Because it's a related topic?

Only if you feel the need to be a smug jackass to people who are experiencing a problem.

 

[AThornton]

Nobody could have predicted Twitter employees would have trouble getting paid after the Payroll Department quit.

 

[mxgs]

It's a toy gun (serious - Deus Ex replica), and he's drinking caffeine free Diet Coke.

He's just a wee bit pathetic, even by edgelord standards.

So ... the oversized compensator gun on his nightstand ... fires blanks - The symbolism just keeps getting betterr

 

[rnturn]

A gracious good afternoon, this is Ms. Tomlin with the Telephone Company. We notice your account shows you owe us quite a lot of money, when may we expect payment? I'm afraid if you don't make payment we will have to discontinue service and send an army of big burly servicemen to rip out all your telephones and internet connections. Better lock up the liquor, they're mean drunks

I once got a phone call from someone named "Vito" in the collections department at DEC. Not even sure how he got my office number but I imagined a "big burly" guy showing up demanding payment.

 

[daveishereagain]

The chief douche-bag has probably eliminated the PR dept. like he did with Tesla.

From what I understand, most of them were victims of the first wave of 'layoffs'. Who needs a staff when the boss is constantly braying inanities? I'm guessing they're not that sorry they don't have to deal with explaining to the public his latest Tweet of drek.

 

[gsgrego]

Talking about financial responsibility can definitely be positive. There are probably some readers who are being less cautious than they should be given their financial position. Obviously it sucks that at least one employee had overdraft fees, but maybe their difficulties can be a warning for others to learn from.

Not the way most people are doing it. Which thus far has been pretty much insulting and not based on any actual facts. Even your comment here is "I think they overdrafted because they are stupid and throwing away money"

 

[ilidd]

To be fair, hearing from people who try to get apps on the app store, it sounds like a normal day at Apple for any app.

Not really. As long as you stick to the guidelines and don’t include some funky third party library designed by folks who don’t care about the guidelines, it’s pretty easy and straightforward.

Use undocumented or deprecated APIs in your app update (or new submission)? Well, it’s probably going to be flagged and rejected. So don’t do that.

 

[gsgrego]

Not really. As long as you stick to the guidelines and don’t include some funky third party library designed by folks who don’t care about the guidelines, it’s pretty easy and straightforward.

Use undocumented or deprecated APIs in your app update (or new submission)? Well, it’s probably going to be flagged and rejected. So don’t do that.

Eh.

Hearing about Luke's time dealing with getting floatplane app changes through, I have little faith in apple's or googles review process. I can't remember currently if it was apple or google that went weeks without having someone actually look at the item they "reviewed" and realzie that those things had been done for awhile now.

 

[stormcrash]

Eh.

Hearing about Luke's time dealing with getting floatplane app changes through, I have little faith in apple's or googles review process. I can't remember currently if it was apple or google that went weeks without having someone actually look at the item they "reviewed" and realzie that those things had been done for awhile now.

I think it was Google that recently choked and rejected them because the auto parsing of the unchanged Privacy info and link broke and rejected them for not having a privacy policy