Conservatives still like Musk?Even if they win at the local level (uphill battle), I'm inclined to think SCOTUS would firmly plant itself on the side of Musk, et. al. for no other reason than they are a very conservative court and would favor fellow conservatives.
Lament its demise, more accurately. Musk did not "evolve" the brand. He bought the userbase and quite clearly abandoned the trademark.... most people still associate the name and brand “Twitter” with the X Corporation.
The thing is that, so far, they haven't done anything wrong. They haven't used the trademark illegally, they have petitioned the USPTO to have the trademark assigned to them since X Corp no longer uses it.I hope they have a lot of money and a lot of lawyers, because X / Musk is going to be throwing a lot of money and a lot of lawyers at this.
I personally give their chances less than 1% - after reading about the case.
Let's be fair. Though the two feel synonymous in modern America; favoring Musk would be because they are a corrupt court, not because they are a conservative one. Though it feels like they would need to be corrupt to even take up the case. This appears to be a finding of fact (did X abandon the Twitter trademark), not a new interpretation of law.Even if they win at the local level (uphill battle), I'm inclined to think SCOTUS would firmly plant itself on the side of Musk, et. al. for no other reason than they are a very conservative court and would favor fellow conservatives.
I don't even think they would bother hearing it.Even if they win at the local level (uphill battle), I'm inclined to think SCOTUS would firmly plant itself on the side of Musk, et. al. for no other reason than they are a very conservative court and would favor fellow conservatives.
Let's put that claim in perspective“There certainly are alternatives,” Peroff said last week. “I don’t know that any of them at this point in time are at the scale that would make a difference in the national conversation, whereas a new Twitter really could.”
I think the strategy for Musk is that it not even make it to trial. He just hopes to bury them in lawyers.Let's be fair. Though the two feel synonymous in modern America; favoring Musk would be because they are a corrupt court, not because they are a conservative one. Though it feels like they would need to be corrupt to even take up the case. This appears to be a finding of fact (did X abandon the Twitter trademark), not a new interpretation of law.
How many non-corrupt conservatives are left in government: I do not know.
Redirects because they abandoned it.X still owns the domain that redirects to X and that establishes continuity. Zero chance this guy wins.
He'll offer a "settlement" to allow them to license it at exorbitant cost.The thing is that, so far, they haven't done anything wrong. They haven't used the trademark illegally, they have petitioned the USPTO to have the trademark assigned to them since X Corp no longer uses it.
So why is Musk suing? I suspect he thinks they have a good argument and he might lose the trademark. So he's trying to destroy them with legal fees.
Someone still thinks the Napster brand is worth $207M in 2025:Which is of course literally not how trademark law works. But one has to wonder how much the Twitter name, by itself, is really worth. A new and unknown service, is anyone going to care, even if it has an old name?
Incorrect. Musk has tucked his tail between his legs and is now donating lots of money to Republican campaigns. He's no longer favored, but he's now useful as a basically bottomless well of money for them.I don't even think they would bother hearing it.
Musk isn't in favor with the regime currently.
I could go for social media that isn't antisocial.We need less social media, not more.
It’s not like courts in this country care about muster anyway.I don't see this passing muster in court, but I hope they win and with it get back the Twitter domain name.
And?The founders are lawyers who are trolling Musk for free press and have an axe to grind. Particularly the former GC. They know a settlement isn't coming, but will gleefully watch X rack up legal fees.
The courts have ruled on this point before.And X is whining that even if it expressly abandoned its use of TWITTER, nobody can use the word as a trademark ever again because "my trash is still MINE, damnit." ...
Facts of the case
Local police suspected Billy Greenwood was dealing drugs from his residence. Because the police did not have enough evidence for a warrant to search his home, they searched the garbage bags Greenwood had left at the curb for pickup. The police uncovered evidence of drug use, which was then used to obtain a warrant to search the house. That search turned up illegal substances, and Greenwood was arrested on felony charges.
Question
Did the warrantless search and seizure of Greenwood's garbage violate the Fourth Amendment's search and seizure guarantee?
Conclusion
Voting 6 to 2, the Court held that garbage placed at the curbside is unprotected by the Fourth Amendment. The Court argued that there was no reasonable expectation of privacy for trash on public streets "readily accessible to animals, children, scavengers, snoops, and other members of the public." The Court also noted that the police cannot be expected to ignore criminal activity that can be observed by "any member of the public."
They serve justice with relish, but not always to the benefit of those in a pickle.It’s not like courts in this country care about muster anyway.
Note that three years of non-use isn't a strict requirement, but shifts the burden of proof:"a trademark owner stops using a mark with no intent to resume, leading to loss of rights, often presumed after three consecutive years of non-use, shifting the burden to the owner to prove intent to restart"
Twitter officially became X in July 2023
Since federally registered trademarks are presumed valid under the law, the burden of proving abandonment of a mark initially lies with the party filing the claim. Under Section 45 of the Lanham Act, it states that a mark will be deemed abandoned if it has been discontinued with intent not to resume use. Intent not to resume may be inferred from circumstances. If there is nonuse for three consecutive years, there is a presumption of abandonment, and a prima facie case is established.
In terms of a cancellation proceeding, once there is evidence of three years of nonuse, then the burden shifts to the trademark owner to show use during the three-year period or that despite the three years of nonuse, there was intent to resume use of the mark within a reasonably foreseeable time. It is much easier to prove abandonment if there has been three years of nonuse, so that the presumption attaches. If there isn't three years of consecutive nonuse, then the burden remains with the party bringing the claim to show nonuse and lack of intent to resume use by a preponderance of evidence. This is a difficult burden for a party to meet.
Abandonment of mark. A mark shall be deemed to be "abandoned" if either of the following occurs:
- (1) When its use has been discontinued with intent not to resume such use. Intent not to resume may be inferred from circumstances. Nonuse for 3 consecutive years shall be prima facie evidence of abandonment. "Use" of a mark means the bona fide use of such mark made in the ordinary course of trade, and not made merely to reserve a right in a mark.
- (2) When any course of conduct of the owner, including acts of omission as well as commission, causes the mark to become the generic name for the goods or services on or in connection with which it is used or otherwise to lose its significance as a mark. Purchaser motivation shall not be a test for determining abandonment under this paragraph.
Let's put that claim in perspective
View: https://bsky.app/profile/pewresearch.org/post/3ma4oferufv2c
And they're still using twitter.com. Much as I'd like to see Bluebird succeed, I don't see how they have a chance."a trademark owner stops using a mark with no intent to resume, leading to loss of rights, often presumed after three consecutive years of non-use, shifting the burden to the owner to prove intent to restart"
Twitter officially became X in July 2023
I think they also have to show they are actively guarding their trademark, a use/protect it or lose it kind of thing.The thing is that, so far, they haven't done anything wrong. They haven't used the trademark illegally, they have petitioned the USPTO to have the trademark assigned to them since X Corp no longer uses it.
So why is Musk suing? I suspect he thinks they have a good argument and he might lose the trademark. So he's trying to destroy them with legal fees.
I just tried they following:
I entered 'twitter.com' in the search bar of my browser.
It immeidately took me to 'x.com
T'hat does not met a common sense interpretation of abandoning a name. Seems like the
case should be reject as frivolous. Of course, common sense no longer seems to be
an "operational" standard.
I am no lawyer by any means, but I would argue that most tech sites still say X (formerly Twitter), still shows that the brand name Twitter is tied to X, then look for the many instances of people saying I read the "tweet" on X. The idea that Twitter/Tweet/X is still too interchangeable for it to be able to be fully abandoned.
I would love to see a new twitter, but I just don't see this winning. If it does, then we can read: X (formerly Twitter, but not the new Twitter)
Agent seem to defend Musk then says that the case (that Musk filed) should be rejected as frivolous. Thus unwittingly providing the evidence for his final line that common sense is no more.I just tried they following:
I entered 'twitter.com' in the search bar of my browser.
It immeidately took me to 'x.com
T'hat does not met a common sense interpretation of abandoning a name. Seems like the
case should be reject as frivolous. Of course, common sense no longer seems to be
an "operational" standard.