Trump: "The largest AI infrastructure project in history, and it's taking place here in America"
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Trump announces $500B “Stargate” AI infrastructure project with AGI aims
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What kind of infrastructure buys half a trillion dollars? And we is this needed? So that the inaccurate models can be inaccurate a little bit faster? I thought many experiments had already shown that the results do not get better by adding more parameters, in fact many smaller nets outperform larger ones. So what exactly are they going to build?
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I normally take the tack of "anything that makes Musk mad is good" but I'm gonna have to go with "both sides suck" here.
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Personally I'm gonna throw my hat in for a job at the alpha site.
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"I SAID Tesla is an AI company now, but I'm getting nothing from this! What do I have to do? PROVE myself!?!"
- Elon Musk, short term co-president.
- Elon Musk, short term co-president.
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Nothing of value will be built, this is just so the tech oligarchs can siphon away a massive amount of public funds.
The US is functionally the same as Russia now.
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I guess the orange one is going to be building even stronger relations with tech-bros, possibly including funnelling a big pile of tax payers money to them.
Interesting that Musk seems critical of the plan, the financing of it at least. Just 3 days into this farce and cracks may already be appearing between him and Trump.
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Also important to note, from the AP article:
So... we have a project that was in the works under Biden which now is said to be only due to Trump? They're licking so much boot.
So... we have a project that was in the works under Biden which now is said to be only due to Trump? They're licking so much boot.
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Musk has his own AI company and doesn't like Altman. Guess that's where this is coming from.
Well, maybe they cancel SLS then and reallocate the funds to this. Turning government pork into private-sector pork.
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Two out of 4 are foreign companies and what does AI have to do with 'reindustrialization' anyway? These are data centers and chat software.
How are we solving heart disease and cancer any further? Genuine question. We know a lot about what causes them now. Is this suggesting still chasing a 'silver bullet' pill that will somehow reverse decades of smoking, sugar consumption and obesity with no side effects?
How are we solving heart disease and cancer any further? Genuine question. We know a lot about what causes them now. Is this suggesting still chasing a 'silver bullet' pill that will somehow reverse decades of smoking, sugar consumption and obesity with no side effects?
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So this is the part about the pursuit of AGI that I just don't get. Here we have a private company actively pushing for the creation of technologies that effectively make human workers irrelevant, and they're happy to state this publicly. Forget for a moment about how feasible this aim actually is. Let's just say that it works... What do they expect those displaced by this technology to do, if they can role it out on a massive scale? What money-making activities will be left for those who have no longer have jobs? I can't see the US moving any closer to a UBI model, especially under this delightful incoming government.
I also get that new technologies (like the Internet before this) created a huge number of new jobs and industries where workers migrated to, but this new 'transition' towards AGI and AI Agents is explicitly designed to be the process of replacing a whining, needy labour force with something that never complains.
When the masses have no money and no prospects and the government isn't interested in supporting said masses; what do the corporations think will happen next?!
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I love the claim it'll create 100,000 jobs while saying the end goal is for AI to take jobs away. More wealth to the few, I suppose. What's the end game?
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This is not the kind of infrastructure investment we need.
If anything, this is the opposite of the kind of infrastructure we need.
Just think about how many bridge updates, highway repairs, or railroad or transit modernization projects could be funded with that kind of cash... but no, that would actually help people. We can't have that.
If anything, this is the opposite of the kind of infrastructure we need.
Just think about how many bridge updates, highway repairs, or railroad or transit modernization projects could be funded with that kind of cash... but no, that would actually help people. We can't have that.
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Yeah, nothing like bringing all those jobs back home to the US, amiright?
Tariff waivers coming in 3, 2,...
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I mean, possibly they'll get there. Endgame is Trump giving taxpayer funds to whomever he wants without congress. We're not there yet. He's just on stage, essentially at a shovel ceremony, taking credit for something that hasn't happened, that he had nothing to do with.
AI, $500 billion, promise of jobs, Mr. Nazi salute's criticism... the story nearly collapses in upon itself from the weight of all the grift.
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The end game is, as ever, for the line to keep going up. Attempting to think beyond that is communism.
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Larry Ellison doesn't own any companies that do that sort of work, nor do any of Trump's other billionaire rectal tonguejackers
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So... these potential 100,000 jobs... is this going to be some kind of low paying "call center" style thing for people who get to "babysit" things like chatGPT, CoPilot, etc. to make sure the "correct" answers are given ("Hallucination Feedback") ?
Or do they think they're going to build enough datacenter to employ 100,000 janitors/maintenance works?
Just curious...
Or do they think they're going to build enough datacenter to employ 100,000 janitors/maintenance works?
Just curious...
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Yeah, this is something the private sector wasn't just pursuing on its own, it was pursuing it IN HIGH GEAR on its own, without a hint of government help.
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Despite extensive HVAC systems, those server farm floors still need occasional mopping. Part time, without benefits, of course.
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maintaining datacenter hardware actually requires a fair amount of labor. spinning drives are still the most economical way to store data, and that's important when you need exabytes of dubiously sourced feedstock for your high-dimensional vector slurry. The MTBF of those drives will keep a small army of technicians employed for as long as this hype bubble lasts.
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Well, at least Larry Ellison was able to pal around with Trump at this announcement. It’s hard to believe he was left out of the oligarch’s row at the inauguration. The shame! I guess he needs to buy a social media company. He and his family already bought Paramount. Well, at least he can charge Oracle licenses for every CPU core in that $500 billion infrastructure.
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So this is what our energy emergency is? Too many households expect to be in the same line as giant data centers so we need to fix that.
They're not even trying to hide the way this will work out for the little people with 100,000 jobs for a 1/2 trillion dollar investment being incredibly weak.
They're not even trying to hide the way this will work out for the little people with 100,000 jobs for a 1/2 trillion dollar investment being incredibly weak.
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Not to those who will benefit from disinformation and misinformation.
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"...goal of "AGI," which the company defines as a highly autonomous AI system that "outperforms humans at most economically valuable work."
I notice that they are saying the quiet part out loud.
Is Stargate a "project" a partnership or an actual company? What is the capitalization and where is it coming from? I assume it will be headquartered at Cheyenne Mountain.
I notice that they are saying the quiet part out loud.
Is Stargate a "project" a partnership or an actual company? What is the capitalization and where is it coming from? I assume it will be headquartered at Cheyenne Mountain.
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Having helped pilot test AI in software development, honestly this is rather disconcerting from a president that's supposedly "all about the American worker."
AI software development tools are rapidly consuming developer code and becoming leaps and bounds more useful. I have found many occasions that it produces very usable code, and it's actually rather frightening how much of an application you can write with just AI now. What was typically the domain of a small team of devs can now be done with an AI subscription and one developer to vet and test produced code.
And that is what frightens me, because people are already losing jobs because of it. There's only so many people that will be hired to work on AI tooling before the AI tooling is capable of doing the majority of the work itself, then people lose jobs. The problem becomes a lack of foresight as to what society does from there, especially capitalist societies. When nobody has the money and there's no plan to account for it... welp, it's going to be a bad time.
AI software development tools are rapidly consuming developer code and becoming leaps and bounds more useful. I have found many occasions that it produces very usable code, and it's actually rather frightening how much of an application you can write with just AI now. What was typically the domain of a small team of devs can now be done with an AI subscription and one developer to vet and test produced code.
And that is what frightens me, because people are already losing jobs because of it. There's only so many people that will be hired to work on AI tooling before the AI tooling is capable of doing the majority of the work itself, then people lose jobs. The problem becomes a lack of foresight as to what society does from there, especially capitalist societies. When nobody has the money and there's no plan to account for it... welp, it's going to be a bad time.
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