I'm pretty sure the only consideration was to do it quickly enough that they couldn't be stopped.OFC this wasn’t done with any Fs given for safety, regulations, or the people doing the work, or the people working nearby. They made a point of doing it so fast and during the government shut down when there could not be any resistance. Working as intended.
Sounding like Cave Johnson, no doubtBreaking: RFK Jr. just announced that exposure to asbestos strengthens the immune system.
"Safe until disturbed" means it's not safe, because buildings get disturbed.
Of course not! They are pro-mask now! Look at all of those ICE officers.I wonder whether there's yet again a strict "no masks" policy at the White House.
My fears for this administration were blown off as alarmist by so many.
Never did I imagine they would just... tear down 1/3 of the White House without notice.
Never did I imagine... they would try to roll back asbestos regulations, as they attempted in the spring.
Even with all that.... "Asbestos-laden dust and debris from the White House demolition was dumped in a local park" ... and this is not hair on fire news! ... hit me with a new level of incredulity.
And asbestos remediation is obvious. Tarps and bunny suits. Filters and compressors. Not backhoes and jackhammers.Wow, that hadn't occurred to me, but should have been obvious with the age of the building.
Remediation would have taken months and made it obvious they were going to demolish more than originally announced.
I wonder if they know that the National Ignition Facility is responsible for a good bit of America's modern nuclear testing? Nah, that's boring science that doesn't make big-ass explosions. It does, however, help ensure our existing weapons work. Fuck's sake.This is the guy who wants to resume nuclear testing, remember.
Oh, they're sitting over there. I think they're salivating.Where are all those mesothelioma lawyers when we need them?
(Mesothelioma is the type of cancer caused by, and only by, exposure to asbestos).
At this rate, it's pretty much the end of everything that isn't adjacent to a billionaire on Wall Street.So, is this the beginning of the end for OSHA and EPA? Maybe he was planning a 'two birds / one stone' operation...
His first energy secretary didn't even know that when taking the job, for the record.I wonder if they know that the National Ignition Facility is responsible for a good bit of America's modern nuclear testing? Nah, that's boring science that doesn't make big-ass explosions. It does, however, help ensure our existing weapons work. Fuck's sake.
If they test it on Mar-a-lago then I'm 100% in support.This is the guy who wants to resume nuclear testing, remember.
"It does a number on the lungs!"Make Abestos Breathable Again
Really doesn't matter if they did or didn't. The Supreme Court said that the orange lunatic is immune to prosecution, even for being fined or reprimanded. All fingers will point at him as the 'big decision maker' sparing all of the others involved in the illegal action.
The rule of law is essentially no more.
What's amusing is that a lot of asbestos removed from buildings in California in the 80s-90s was deposited back into asbestos mines it was originally removed from in the 1960s-80s. So is Trump going to demands that it be re-mined back out of those sites and put back into those buildings?That's not enough! We demand MORE asbestos!
"More asbestos! More asbestos!"
One exposure can kill you.That's not good. Based on what I'm reading, one heavy exposure to a dust cloud from an asbestos demolition can triple your lifetime cancer risk.
I'd settle for him stacking cardboard boxes of asbestos-laden East Wing debris in the Mar-a-lago bathrooms.If they test it on Mar-a-lago then I'm 100% in support.
One of the buildings I used to work in was "fully remediated" before we moved in, but they missed some pockets. So part of the building was cleaned out again. But this time, they dug out some areas and "encapsulated" the stuff instead of hauling it away.And not to put too fine a point on it, they disturbed the fuck out of the East Wing.
But yes; if it is fully encapsulated, non-friable, not damaged, and not exposed to the open air, sure, asbestos is a contained risk.
One question is, who exactly is responsible for ensuring asbestos compliance? Is the demolition contractor not responsible? Locally I know of an old (> 100 years) house that was demolished, and prior to demolition the contractor visited and ripped up bits of floor tile, window frames, checked plumbing, etc. to verify that there was no asbestos. What could the penalties to ACECO be?Asbestos abatement is obvious, the building gets wrapped, at least the windows are sealed and people are going in and out in hazmat suits with respirators. Massive amounts of doubler bagged refuse is trucked away. The process takes time, a house in our neighbourhood took two weeks for abatement before it was torn down. They had to do abatement on the exterior of a building on my college campus and the building was sealed in blue plastic for a month. A building like this would take several weeks and would be obvious. But there was no clue that it was going to happen. the heavy equipment arrived on Monday and the demo began. No abatement was done. Everyone in and around the area was exposed. That includes everyone who works in the neighbourhood, anyone walking by, visitors to the White House, anyone that works in the White mHouse, delivery people, anyone in that area over the last several weeks.
It’s Class Action Suit Time.
I'd settle for him stacking cardboard boxes of asbestos-laden East Wing debris in the Mar-a-lago bathrooms.
In his 1997 book The Art of the Comeback, Trump wrote that asbestos is “100% safe, once applied.” He blamed the mob for its reputation as a carcinogen, writing: “I believe that the movement against asbestos was led by the mob, because it was often mob-related companies that would do the asbestos removal.”
Which is done in a very controlled way, according to EPA regulations. Do we still have a working EPA?So if it had asbestos in it then it needed to be renovated.
Hey, I found a WW2 bomb under your driveway, so I'm sure you'll be glad to hear instead of calling the bomb squad, I lit the fuse.So if it had asbestos in it then it needed to be renovated.
Make
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I fully expect to hear some release about how we need to add more asbestos to everything to improve healthy living...
Where are all those mesothelioma lawyers when we need them?
(Mesothelioma is the type of cancer caused by, and only by, exposure to asbestos).
Tell me you know nothing, have read nothing, and can contribute nothing to this discussion, without telling me.So if it had asbestos in it then it needed to be renovated.
DOE and DOD giving each other nervous glances like uhhhh who gonna tell himThis is the guy who wants to resume nuclear testing, remember.
Well, given how enamored the orange ret**d is with The Village People's "YMCA" I am not at all surprised that he likes top men. Not what you meant? My bad, sorry...“Top men. Top men.”