The speech police: Chairman Brendan Carr and the FCC’s news distortion policy

Coriolanus

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Just yesterday overheard two people talking at the park about how the markets were all down after the announcement of the tarrifs. Then one of them said "well he [Trump] is just doing what's best for America". His supporters have total blind faith in everything he says and does.
If you want a laugh, go to r/conservative and take a read. They banned anyone without flair that indicates they were conservative from posting. And the few times conservatives made posts about tariffs being bad, their posts were removed by moderators. There are posts there that shows 30+ comments that were all deleted or hidden because they criticized Trump for something.
 
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RZetopan

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So when does Fox News get investigated?
According to Mango Mussolini, Faux Noise is extremely far left liberal. So they will eventually suffer the same fate after all the others are shut down. Faux Noise escaped losing a lawsuit by claiming to be an entertainment channel instead of a news channel. The moron judge not only bought their argument, he also allowed them to keep their fake “news” name. And now the SC shows that they are essentially demented the same way.
 
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If you want a laugh, go to r/conservative and take a read. They banned anyone without flair that indicates they were conservative from posting. And the few times conservatives made posts about tariffs being bad, their posts were removed by moderators. There are posts there that shows 30+ comments that were all deleted or hidden because they criticized Trump for something.
Trust me, living in a pretty red area I don't need to go to reddit to see that kind of stupidity. The plethora of pick up trucks encrusted with "Make America Great Again" and "F*** Biden" bumper stickers speak for themselves.
 
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Alito and Thomas will apply the principle of "I Have Power and You Do Not", a time-honored Conservative principle that also drives this policy.
Truly. They are masters of contortion when it comes to inventing narratives from whole cloth and selectively applying the law when it suits their cause, and ignoring it when it does not.
 
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RZetopan

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I disagreed with several of Chairman Pai's decisions, but at least he stayed away from this.
Only because he considered what would happen if the Democrats got control. Felon45 is making sure that cannot ever happen, so his insane policy is totally safe from any retaliatory reversal.
 
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likely to lead to extensive legal actions challenging FCC authority.
The tinfoil hat-wearer in me wonders if this is all intentional, and will not be the last time they act on a "complaint". Perhaps the ulterior motive is for the FCC to be the target of so much litigation that the current administration decides that it serves no regulatory purpose and dissolves it via EO because everyone is suing it.
 
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The ultimate hypocrisy, after showing such concern for the Biden Administration's non-repression of free speech being such a major concern for Trump's sycophants.

Now the shoe is on the other foot, they're ready to strip anyone who disagrees with them of the right to free speech.

How long until the MAGAs realize they've been played, and their speech as well will be silenced once they figure out they've been lied to?
 
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Sajuuk

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the first thing communists did in my country was to kill 30 000 people in 3 months to bypass the resistance. so i dont think nazis are remotely close to what animals were communists.
Non sequitur aside, the difference between the Nazis and the Soviets is most easily demonstrated by the fact that there are still Eastern Europeans left to fucking hate the Soviets.
 
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Snark218

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the first thing communists did in my country was to kill 30 000 people in 3 months to bypass the resistance. so i dont think nazis are remotely close to what animals were communists.
Your problem, and mine, is authoritarianism, not socialism or capitalism.
 
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He can't drop the case. He's been directed from the Oval Office, and as recent dismissals have shown, the Admin is willing to fire people who are not loyal to DJT first and foremost. Loyalty to the US Constitution is not what it takes to keep your job.,
Carr doesn't have to worry about that, at least not yet. He's a True Believer, he's doing these things because he very much wants to. It does no good to tell him, please don't do this because it will break the First Amendment, since that is his actual goal.
 
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Coriolanus

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Trust me, living in a pretty red area I don't need to go to reddit to see that kind of stupidity. The plethora of pick up trucks encrusted with "Make America Great Again" and "F*** Biden" bumper stickers speak for themselves.
One thing I have noticed in Arkansas is that I have seen fewer Trump flags lately. I don't know if that's just because the election was over or what. During his first term, we had people who kept permanent Trump flags or signs on their property.
 
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Sypher the 297th

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Fox and Sinclair have no integrity. Fox is far right propaganda commentary masquerading as News on almost all of its programs with actual viewers. Fox and Friends, Hannity, Jessie Waters, Jeanine Shapiro, and so much more. They used to have conservative anchors like Shep Smith and Wallace who reported actual news inbetween the infotainment. But the viewers hated it so now it's wall to wall nonsense.

Sinclair though. . . their game is mostly skewing local news to stir up outrage with granny and pops but then masquerading their editorials as news through "must run" segments. They're the local Newsmax meets Info Wars.

Networks like MSNBC run mostly news and some commentary in the evening. But even their commentary has a remarkably limited bias because Republicans, Christians, and corporations are just so horrible there isn't a need to lie about them.

It's a sad world we live in where some people would damn their kids to hell on Earth under theocorporate feudalism because of their ignorance and bigotry.
 
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mozbo

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Sorry bud, but conervatives in this country are fascists. You can't rebrand this just because you don't like it.
Indeed.

This is because fascism in the US has its roots in slavery. Outright chattel slavery, morphed into Jim Crow, morphed into prison labor, with starvation wages running a deep current through all of it.
 
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If only he was being honest. The goal is solely to intimidate news organizations who say things conservatives don’t like.
True, but it also reflects the Public’s disdain for the Trump message, which irritates them (Conservatives) to no end.
I listen to PBS NewsHour daily and they always have the Conservative viewpoint presented. Ron Johnson, R-Wisconsin, was interviewed and he pathetically tried to defend the tariffs. The Public is tired of it. You can only spin disinformation and lies so far.
IMO, unless you tell the objective truth, you shouldn’t be allowed airtime.
 
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jonah

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The FCC is incredibly important. It touches literally every American in a way that few other parts of the government do.

That's why it was so profoundly disappointing that Biden waited the better part of a year to nominate Sohn to it. He squandered what ended up being half his term at the FCC, an agency where real impactful rulemaking takes a very long time. Trump, you'll notice, did not make the same mistake.

Once again, Democrats fuck around and we all get to find out.
 
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the first thing communists did in my country was to kill 30 000 people in 3 months to bypass the resistance. so i dont think nazis are remotely close to what animals were communists.
We keep comparing Nazi's and Communists when speaking of atrocities, but it isn't the ideologies that should be compared, it's the leadership. When any form of government becomes an autorcrocy and the head of that government is evil, people die. That is the common thread.

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ajm8127

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Sorry bud, but conervatives in this country are fascists. You can't rebrand this just because you don't like it.
We seem to be in agreement.

I have no sympathy for the GOP. I am not trying to rebrand them to soften their image. I am just pointing out they are not really a conservative party, and have been trending away from conservatism for the past 25 years of so. Trump has taken them to the next level.

I suppose there has always been an ebb and flow to the GOP's fascist leanings. Look at Joe McCarthy and events like Japanese internment.

Let's call them what they are because labeling them them as "conservatives" doesn't really capture just how damaging they are. There is nothing conservative about what they are doing.

In the US currently there is an fascist party and there is a pro-democracy party. To brand them differently distorts the danger to the Republic.
 
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Networks like MSNBC run mostly news and some commentary in the evening. But even their

I haven't watched cable news in >>10 years, but I remember MSNBC back years ago with rage-baiting shows like "Hardball with Chris Matthews". It may not be pure lying propaganda like Fox News, but it's still a mockery of real news and utter crap. If we could eliminate all "cable news-ertainment talk shows" we would gain so much. They only exist to sell commercials, and nothing keeps people tuned in better than rage-bait crap.

While it apparently goes against some underlying principles of America, if we could strictly limit all news to be non-profit, and institute major campaign finance restrictions we would be 1000% better off.
 
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I must confess a certain weary amusement observing the fervent defenders of censorship here at Ars suddenly recoiling at the sting of their own venom. I've watched you applaud every creeping advance of "content moderation," every cheering embrace of state-sanctioned "fact-checking," and every bureaucratic incursion designed to suppress inconvenient voices under the sanctimonious banner of combating "misinformation." How earnestly you championed the arbiters of "truth," confident that power would always rest in benevolent hands—yours, naturally.

Now Chairman Carr’s heavy-handed revival of FCC censorship has, unsurprisingly, invoked your righteous horror. Suddenly, the First Amendment, that ancient parchment so long neglected, is brandished once more as sacred scripture. Where was this principled outrage when you eagerly clamored for speech codes, when you cheered social platforms for their censorship, or dismissed warnings about "slippery slopes" as hysterical hyperbole?

Your newfound devotion to free speech is heartening, if disingenuous. Indeed, "weaponizing government" was once a gleeful pastime when you felt secure in the belief that your opponents alone would be silenced. But history, as ever, holds a lesson: powers granted to suppress the speech of your adversaries inevitably turn against you.

May this sobering spectacle remind you, belatedly, that the pendulum you set in motion has no mercy and favors no faction. Perhaps now, chastened by your own hypocrisy, you'll recognize the wisdom of defending liberty universally, lest it vanish altogether.
TLDR
 
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“Indeed the abuses of the freedom of the press here have been carried to a length never before known or borne by any civilized nation. ... as yet we have found it better to trust the public judgment, rather than the magistrate, with the discrimination between truth & falsehood.”
-Thomas Jefferson
 
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