The switch isn't suitable as a Gameboy replacement for many reasons, especially from a ruggedness standpoint. Now the question essentially becomes is there still a market for a portable gaming device that costs more than $100. Maybe the answer is no, but I'd love to see something that's at least as powerful as the switch but designed to really be portable, not just something you can play sitting around the house without a TV.
I missed the DS generations as a kid and so regret not diving in as an adult.
Only recently I was thinking about how the Surface Duo resembled a 3DS. I hope we get some sort of an emulator in that device. Lack of physical buttons would still be a bummer.
On a different note, I still miss the days of Nokia N-Gage. Though that was termed as a failure, it was a fun little gaming device for me that also doubled up as a phone. If only that makes a comeback, I would certainly buy one in a whim.
Ars I think perhaps a deep dive into classic handheld games consoles might make for a great article.
I myself consider the Nintendo DS Lite to be the best video game console ever made. Long battery life, excellent 2D games like Sonic Rush, the Castlevania series and the Megaman ZX series. Some excellent JRPGs from both Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest, to say nothing of the Pokemon games, which are generally regarded as the best Pokemon games ever made (HG/SS, Platinum, White Black).
I will probably eventually buy a Switch, but I'm kinda sad that the DS line, or perhaps more generally a handheld only line, is gone forever.
Once 5G internet is widespread, this could make a big impact on portable gaming:
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Back in 2017, Nintendo said explicitly that the newly launched Nintendo Switch wouldn't replace the 3DS. Since then, the company has repeatedly reaffirmed that continued support, saying as recently as last November that the 3DS would be supported into 2020.
Back in 2017, Nintendo said explicitly that the newly launched Nintendo Switch wouldn't replace the 3DS. Since then, the company has repeatedly reaffirmed that continued support, saying as recently as last November that the 3DS would be supported into 2020.
and as far back as 2017 plenty of people said Nintendo is lying and of course it will. It was just a matter of time.
Ars I think perhaps a deep dive into classic handheld games consoles might make for a great article.
I myself consider the Nintendo DS Lite to be the best video game console ever made. Long battery life, excellent 2D games like Sonic Rush, the Castlevania series and the Megaman ZX series. Some excellent JRPGs from both Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest, to say nothing of the Pokemon games, which are generally regarded as the best Pokemon games ever made (HG/SS, Platinum, White Black).
I will probably eventually buy a Switch, but I'm kinda sad that the DS line, or perhaps more generally a handheld only line, is gone forever.
I don't understand why you don't consider the Switch Lite a handheld only line. Why is it important that it be handheld only?
Back in 2017, Nintendo said explicitly that the newly launched Nintendo Switch wouldn't replace the 3DS. Since then, the company has repeatedly reaffirmed that continued support, saying as recently as last November that the 3DS would be supported into 2020.
and as far back as 2017 plenty of people said Nintendo is lying and of course it will. It was just a matter of time.
Ars I think perhaps a deep dive into classic handheld games consoles might make for a great article.
I myself consider the Nintendo DS Lite to be the best video game console ever made. Long battery life, excellent 2D games like Sonic Rush, the Castlevania series and the Megaman ZX series. Some excellent JRPGs from both Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest, to say nothing of the Pokemon games, which are generally regarded as the best Pokemon games ever made (HG/SS, Platinum, White Black).
I will probably eventually buy a Switch, but I'm kinda sad that the DS line, or perhaps more generally a handheld only line, is gone forever.
I don't understand why you don't consider the Switch Lite a handheld only line. Why is it important that it be handheld only?
Because there is no game that you can buy for the Switch Lite that is not compatible with the Switch. In terms of the handheld itself, yes the Switch Lite is handheld only. In terms of the games library, it is not.
This may sound like a difference without a distinction, but there was a day when there was a difference in handheld games and home console games. That difference was gone. Part of this was due to the less CPU and GPU power available to the games, part of this was due to the expectation that you could be in the same physical space as friends you were playing with or against.
Take the DS and it's ad hoc wireless capabilities. Such capabilities make no sense on a Switch Lite.
It used to be that main series Pokemon games were handheld only - precisely because they wanted you to be able to trade Pokemon.
Maybe I'm just nostalgic for the way things used to be.
Back in 2017, Nintendo said explicitly that the newly launched Nintendo Switch wouldn't replace the 3DS. Since then, the company has repeatedly reaffirmed that continued support, saying as recently as last November that the 3DS would be supported into 2020.
and as far back as 2017 plenty of people said Nintendo is lying and of course it will. It was just a matter of time. I am only surprised by the when. I figured Nintendo would give it a couple more years.
Those "tiny computers practically everyone carries around in their pockets" are certainly replacing a host of devices in our lives. When's the last time we bought an alarm clock, a chronometer, a calendar, a portable radio (or a newspaper for that fact). We are entering a time where all media are filtered through the glowing rectangle of the smartphone.
Perhaps some day we'll realise the inherent value in these bespoke artifacts of daily life. Gaming on a touchscreen is not the same.
Back in 2017, Nintendo said explicitly that the newly launched Nintendo Switch wouldn't replace the 3DS. Since then, the company has repeatedly reaffirmed that continued support, saying as recently as last November that the 3DS would be supported into 2020.
and as far back as 2017 plenty of people said Nintendo is lying and of course it will. It was just a matter of time. I am only surprised by the when. I figured Nintendo would give it a couple more years.
But it wasn't a lie. The 3DS was supported into 2020. It got 10 years of support.
The DS got only got 9 years of support, between 2004 until 2013; now there is a difference, in that no Switch ships with a 3DS cartridge slot, but outside that the 3DS was not abandoned after only 5 years or something.
And even before that, the GBA also only saw 9 years of support, between 2001 to 2010.
Ars I think perhaps a deep dive into classic handheld games consoles might make for a great article.
I myself consider the Nintendo DS Lite to be the best video game console ever made. Long battery life, excellent 2D games like Sonic Rush, the Castlevania series and the Megaman ZX series. Some excellent JRPGs from both Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest, to say nothing of the Pokemon games, which are generally regarded as the best Pokemon games ever made (HG/SS, Platinum, White Black).
I will probably eventually buy a Switch, but I'm kinda sad that the DS line, or perhaps more generally a handheld only line, is gone forever.
I don't understand why you don't consider the Switch Lite a handheld only line. Why is it important that it be handheld only?
Because there is no game that you can buy for the Switch Lite that is not compatible with the Switch. In terms of the handheld itself, yes the Switch Lite is handheld only. In terms of the games library, it is not.
This may sound like a difference without a distinction, but there was a day when there was a difference in handheld games and home console games. That difference was gone. Part of this was due to the less CPU and GPU power available to the games, part of this was due to the expectation that you could be in the same physical space as friends you were playing with or against.
Take the DS and it's ad hoc wireless capabilities. Such capabilities make no sense on a Switch Lite.
It used to be that main series Pokemon games were handheld only - precisely because they wanted you to be able to trade Pokemon.
Maybe I'm just nostalgic for the way things used to be.
Local wireless play may seem strange for those of us out there who rely on online for multiplayer of any sort. But you don't need an internet connection for local wireless play. All you need is two Nintendo Switches (yourself and your friend), the same game cartridge, and the simple task of being next to one another.
The switch isn't suitable as a Gameboy replacement for many reasons, especially from a ruggedness standpoint. Now the question essentially becomes is there still a market for a portable gaming device that costs more than $100. Maybe the answer is no, but I'd love to see something that's at least as powerful as the switch but designed to really be portable, not just something you can play sitting around the house without a TV.
Are you... not aware of the Switch Lite? It is "more than $100," just as powerful as the Switch and truly portable. Also decently rugged, even if there's no clamshell design to protect the screen.
Oh yeah, and it has a real d-pad. And it's selling pretty well.
https://meincmagazine.com/gaming/2019/09/ ... ever-made/
I definitely know what you mean, the design of handheld games has historically been pretty distinct from console games. For a few generations there, Nintendo's handhelds were practically the last refuge of 2D games, with N64/Gamecube/Wii games being almost entirely 3D. That combined with targeting shorter play sessions resulted in handheld games having more of a retro feel. For that same reason, I also preferred the DS to the 3DS.Ars I think perhaps a deep dive into classic handheld games consoles might make for a great article.
I myself consider the Nintendo DS Lite to be the best video game console ever made. Long battery life, excellent 2D games like Sonic Rush, the Castlevania series and the Megaman ZX series. Some excellent JRPGs from both Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest, to say nothing of the Pokemon games, which are generally regarded as the best Pokemon games ever made (HG/SS, Platinum, White Black).
I will probably eventually buy a Switch, but I'm kinda sad that the DS line, or perhaps more generally a handheld only line, is gone forever.
I don't understand why you don't consider the Switch Lite a handheld only line. Why is it important that it be handheld only?
Because there is no game that you can buy for the Switch Lite that is not compatible with the Switch. In terms of the handheld itself, yes the Switch Lite is handheld only. In terms of the games library, it is not.
This may sound like a difference without a distinction, but there was a day when there was a difference in handheld games and home console games. That difference was gone. Part of this was due to the less CPU and GPU power available to the games, part of this was due to the expectation that you could be in the same physical space as friends you were playing with or against.
Take the DS and it's ad hoc wireless capabilities. Such capabilities make no sense on a Switch Lite.
It used to be that main series Pokemon games were handheld only - precisely because they wanted you to be able to trade Pokemon.
Maybe I'm just nostalgic for the way things used to be.
The clamshell protects the screen but, on the downside, it adds another physical weak point.The switch isn't suitable as a Gameboy replacement for many reasons, especially from a ruggedness standpoint. Now the question essentially becomes is there still a market for a portable gaming device that costs more than $100. Maybe the answer is no, but I'd love to see something that's at least as powerful as the switch but designed to really be portable, not just something you can play sitting around the house without a TV.
Are you... not aware of the Switch Lite? It is "more than $100," just as powerful as the Switch and truly portable. Also decently rugged, even if there's no clamshell design to protect the screen.
Oh yeah, and it has a real d-pad. And it's selling pretty well.
https://meincmagazine.com/gaming/2019/09/ ... ever-made/
The last Nintendo handheld that really felt comfortable in my pocket was the Gameboy Micro (played GBA games only). I'd love to see something slightly larger with the screen resolution and buttons to emulate 2D consoles and handhelds. In the meantime, I have an Arduboy coming, which should be fun to mess around with: https://arduboy.com/The switch isn't suitable as a Gameboy replacement for many reasons, especially from a ruggedness standpoint. Now the question essentially becomes is there still a market for a portable gaming device that costs more than $100. Maybe the answer is no, but I'd love to see something that's at least as powerful as the switch but designed to really be portable, not just something you can play sitting around the house without a TV.
Are you... not aware of the Switch Lite? It is "more than $100," just as powerful as the Switch and truly portable. Also decently rugged, even if there's no clamshell design to protect the screen.
Oh yeah, and it has a real d-pad. And it's selling pretty well.
https://meincmagazine.com/gaming/2019/09/ ... ever-made/
Good luck stuffing that in your pocket.
There was a Gamecube add-on that let you blast your GBA games onto your TV, but at that time it would be completely obvious whether you were playing a Gamecube or GBA game.I don't understand. You dislike that you can blast your games onto a larger screen, as an option?
The switch isn't suitable as a Gameboy replacement for many reasons, especially from a ruggedness standpoint. Now the question essentially becomes is there still a market for a portable gaming device that costs more than $100. Maybe the answer is no, but I'd love to see something that's at least as powerful as the switch but designed to really be portable, not just something you can play sitting around the house without a TV.
Are you... not aware of the Switch Lite? It is "more than $100," just as powerful as the Switch and truly portable. Also decently rugged, even if there's no clamshell design to protect the screen.
Oh yeah, and it has a real d-pad. And it's selling pretty well.
https://meincmagazine.com/gaming/2019/09/ ... ever-made/
Good luck stuffing that in your pocket.
If it's important to you, you can just buy pants with bigger pockets. I never have trouble finding roomy pants pockets, but it's a feature I specifically look for.The switch isn't suitable as a Gameboy replacement for many reasons, especially from a ruggedness standpoint. Now the question essentially becomes is there still a market for a portable gaming device that costs more than $100. Maybe the answer is no, but I'd love to see something that's at least as powerful as the switch but designed to really be portable, not just something you can play sitting around the house without a TV.
Are you... not aware of the Switch Lite? It is "more than $100," just as powerful as the Switch and truly portable. Also decently rugged, even if there's no clamshell design to protect the screen.
Oh yeah, and it has a real d-pad. And it's selling pretty well.
https://meincmagazine.com/gaming/2019/09/ ... ever-made/
Good luck stuffing that in your pocket.
What type of pockets do you have?
A DS Lite still needs cargo pants to 'stuff in a pocket'. Hell the only 'pocketable' portable that I know of was the GBA Micro and MAYBE the Gameboy pocket. Even the Neo Geo portable/GBA SP is too large for regular pants pockets.
Phone, keys, where you gonna 'pocket' your portable?
edit: hell; even PHONES are getting too big for regular jean pockets imo.
[url=https://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=39244391#p39244391:28l922v1 said:mikesmith[/url]
Good luck stuffing that in your pocket.
What type of pockets do you have?
A DS Lite still needs cargo pants to 'stuff in a pocket'. Hell the only 'pocketable' portable that I know of was the GBA Micro and MAYBE the Gameboy pocket. Even the Neo Geo portable/GBA SP is too large for regular pants pockets.
Phone, keys, where you gonna 'pocket' your portable?
edit: hell; even PHONES are getting too big for regular jean pockets imo.
I mean, I have regular guy jeans, I can fit Two DSLites or an NDS or a 3DS and a GBASP in the same front pocket. I dunno maybe switch from skinny jeans to carpenter and boot cut if you wanna carry more stuff.
[url=https://meincmagazine.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=39244391#p39244391:1db4ooax said:mikesmith[/url]
Good luck stuffing that in your pocket.
What type of pockets do you have?
A DS Lite still needs cargo pants to 'stuff in a pocket'. Hell the only 'pocketable' portable that I know of was the GBA Micro and MAYBE the Gameboy pocket. Even the Neo Geo portable/GBA SP is too large for regular pants pockets.
Phone, keys, where you gonna 'pocket' your portable?
edit: hell; even PHONES are getting too big for regular jean pockets imo.
I mean, I have regular guy jeans, I can fit Two DSLites or an NDS or a 3DS and a GBASP in the same front pocket. I dunno maybe switch from skinny jeans to carpenter and boot cut if you wanna carry more stuff.
I hear fanny packs are making a comeback too....