FBI suspects foreign spies may be targeting scientists with access to government secrets.
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Tabloid reports linking 10 missing and dead scientists spur FBI probe
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Anti-gravity researcher killed because she had secret knowledge! Yeah I stopped watching the video "news" after getting to that one...
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scortiusthecharioteer
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How many of the alleged dead or missing scientists were just sleeping one off under the desk of the FBI director?
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I mean, yeah. That’s an easy conclusion to come to for people who care about logic and evidence.
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Sigh. Must be an extremely slow news day (I don't mean this article on Ars but all those media reports on this that Ars is reporting on.)
I ran into this somewhere this morning. An actual non-sensationalist report in The Atlantic. Apparently none of these "missing" people had any real connection to each other. And not all are 'scientists'
E.g. The "antigravity researcher" mentioned above is actually the daughter of a former NASA engineer who claimed to have discovered the secret of antigravity. She also had a friend who was a time traveling soldier named Dan. And she was in hiding from someone trying to prevent the release of her father's discovery. Oh my!
I ran into this somewhere this morning. An actual non-sensationalist report in The Atlantic. Apparently none of these "missing" people had any real connection to each other. And not all are 'scientists'
E.g. The "antigravity researcher" mentioned above is actually the daughter of a former NASA engineer who claimed to have discovered the secret of antigravity. She also had a friend who was a time traveling soldier named Dan. And she was in hiding from someone trying to prevent the release of her father's discovery. Oh my!
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Probably a nothingburger. The FBI should be keeping tabs on it as a matter of course, that's kind-of their job, but the tempest-in-teapot crowd rarely produce more signal than noise.
As far as I know, neither the National Enquirer nor the Colbert Report have reported on this. Whether that is sarcasm or an indictment of the popular press is left to the reader.
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That's a very selective way of phrasing it. Do you want the full list of groups that doubt it? It might be quicker just to say "All of society other than the terminally-online, sub-normal IQ paranoid right".
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Are we sure the US didn’t target the US scientists? We aren’t exactly pro scientist lately.
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On the flipside of that coin, I have heard people murmuring about this in the halls of the computing facilities at LANL. As a general rule they don't fit the category you mentioned.
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Does ridiculing count as reporting?
As referenced above, The Atlantic have gone with "The 'Missing-Scientist' Story Is Unbelievably Dumb".
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As soon as I see something has had both Karoline Leavitt and DJT comment on it, I assume it is BS.
And DJT has changed his "Ask me again in 2 weeks" to "Ask me again in 10 days" - now that's NEWS!!!!
And DJT has changed his "Ask me again in 2 weeks" to "Ask me again in 10 days" - now that's NEWS!!!!
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If you strongly believe that Iraq has nuclear weapons, you will find evidence to support that belief.
If you strongly believe witches exist, you will find evidence for their existence.
If you strongly believe witches exist, you will find evidence for their existence.
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Cap'nAwesome
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I guess Operation Iran Epstein Distraction isn't getting as much news coverage as they want so they need something else to fill the news cycle?
Also, we still want the Epstein files.
Also, we still want the Epstein files.
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Generally if there was a real concern that a foreign adversary is coercing and/or kidnapping US persons, especially ones who do sensitive or secret work, the law enforcement efforts to address that threat would be doing everything possible to stay OUT of the news. The fact they're making a congressional circus out of it suggests something else is actually going on here.
The following is speculation: what if the administration is conjuring up a link between a bunch of unrelated cases with a view towards using these mysterious disapperances as a pretense to seize emergency powers in an election year?
The following is speculation: what if the administration is conjuring up a link between a bunch of unrelated cases with a view towards using these mysterious disapperances as a pretense to seize emergency powers in an election year?
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As soon as I got to this spot in the article I knew what was to follow was going to be a whole lot of BS.
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I have been seeing this pop up on multiple sources over the past several weeks. Not all are in the realm of fully reliable. Many of these folks are wealthy enough to have adult hobbies that carry a non zero chance of death. Motorcycle riding. Hiking in wilderness areas. Scuba diving. All can result in unexplained death or going missing. If you have a large enough population, the chances of having a group of mysterious events becomes fairly high.
But still probably worth checking to make sure there isn't a common factor. The old saying of once is weird, twice is coincidence but three times is evidence of enemy action might apply here. And if you are a Leroy Gibbs type, you don't believe in coincidence.
But still probably worth checking to make sure there isn't a common factor. The old saying of once is weird, twice is coincidence but three times is evidence of enemy action might apply here. And if you are a Leroy Gibbs type, you don't believe in coincidence.
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Anyone else immediately think of that scene from the first Men in Black where Agent K buys tabloids?
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On the one hand, these deaths/disappearances seem odd and possibly worth investigating to see if there’s anything suspicious linking them.
On the other hand, noted idiots like Rep. James Comer are involved so maybe not.
On the other hand, noted idiots like Rep. James Comer are involved so maybe not.
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The NY Post is not exactly a reliable source, and the Daily Mail is widely known as the "Fail" for good reasons.
I am prepared to believe that “No sightings of a mothership hovering above the Sandia Mountains have been reported.”
I am prepared to believe that “No sightings of a mothership hovering above the Sandia Mountains have been reported.”
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I kind of feel like this article doesn't go hard enough on explaining that the claims are complete bullshit and gives way too much space to laying out the claims as though they have some sort of truth to them? The claims about the named persons being involved in national security is a lie, the claims about the timeline has evolved multiple times, and flat out been lied about (claiming it's happened from several months to a year when the named persons are across multiple years) and the claims that there is any connection between the named persons is also a lie.
So the story is a complete fabrication.
So the story is a complete fabrication.
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Maybe a V.I.L.E. henchman; did any eyewitnesses see someone getting into a car flying a flag with colors Kash can look up in his trusty almanac so he knows what country to fly to next?
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How about a quick litmus test: pivot the conversation towards how redirecting FBI and DHS resources to hunting immigrants rendered these organizations blind and helpless against foreign adversaries (e.g. allowing Russia to get away for years with inflicting Havana Syndrome on US diplomats), and watch this story disappear from the news cycle in a puff of smoke.
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Just remember, every FBI agent investigating this nonsense is an FBI agent that isn't available to do a proper investigation into Jefferey Epstein's crimes.
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