Shkreli verdict: Guilty on three of eight counts of securities and wire fraud

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Hopefully the judge does not allow him to be free pending appeal.

If so, then hopefully until he is out of prison.

Even more hopefully that'll be in 20-30 years.

A quick look over NY's judicial practices suggests to me that there must be a reasonably strong chance of overturning the verdict on appeal for this to be allowed. I don't think Shkreli really has much of a leg to stand on there.
 
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Raising the price of a life saving drug needed by desperate people: Legal.
Defrauding some stocks, so other rich people get stiffed: 20 years.

He broke the first rule of wall street: don't fuck with rich people's money. The poors? Yeah you can swindle, abuse, and cheat the shit out of them.
 
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do we really need to perpetuate the idea that every transgression is deserving of decades in prison? Guy deserves to do some time but "lock 'em up and throw away the key" really doesn't need to be our default response.


Every transgression no but every transgression doesn't makes the headlines. If he was caught with $10 of weed in a traffic stop I would say let him walk, if he wrote a couple fraudulent checks I would say give him 3 months. That isn't what he did though.
 
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Satisfying though this certainly is, it's worth remembering that the thing he's most detested for, spiking drug prices, isn't what he's going to jail for. And that's a shame.

Take some solace in knowing that it was those actions, and his subsequent behavior, that shined a spotlight on his past actions that made this trial possible.
 
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Now the only question left to answer (other than the sentencing) is which actor will play him in the inevitable HBO movie.
This is not a question. Clearly Josh Brener. (Every time I see a picture of Shkreli I'm like "Big Head?")

He may not want to end up typecast as a pseudo genius though :)
 
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do we really need to perpetuate the idea that every transgression is deserving of decades in prison? Guy deserves to do some time but "lock 'em up and throw away the key" really doesn't need to be our default response.

You seem to forget, this is the American Justice System, the saying "lock em up, and throw away the key" IS the default action of said system.
 
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do we really need to perpetuate the idea that every transgression is deserving of decades in prison? Guy deserves to do some time but "lock 'em up and throw away the key" really doesn't need to be our default response.

Yes, I agree, "lock 'em up and throw away the key" really doesn't need to be our default response.

So, now I'm thinking carefully about this case...deliberating with great care...

I'm coming to a conclusion...

OK, I'm ready. After careful deliberation and not defaulting to a knee-jerk reaction, let's lock this maggot up for 20 years and throw away the key.
 
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At least I can take a breath now. Still 5 counts fewer than I feel he should have been found guilty on (I am not the jury though).

Now let's hope the judge throws the book at him. Has the bailiff return the book and then throws it at him again. THEN sentences him to the maximum.
While that would be vindictively refreshing, retribution isn't USUALLY part of fraud case sentences.

I'd prefer to see him pay a fine that will bankrupt his great, great, great grandkids just so that there's no chance of him ever doing this again, but chances are he'll have benefited more from doing it, than not doing it, since that's typically how fines go.

And that's all I expect to see - fines.

Prison is usually based on the magnitude of the scheme with respect to fraud, and this one was small potatoes. Legally, he's done nothing else wrong, and I've never heard that he's had other run-ins with the law that might factor into a more harsh sentence.

If he gets prison, it'll probably be for under two years. And it will be at a plush federal institution for white-collar criminals.

A "just" sentence would be to bar him for life from being involved in, hired to do or consulted about any kind of securities or stock trading (meaning he'd lose his other businesses/jobs, too). Sort of like sentencing a cheater at poker from ever gambling in any way ever again.

That won't happen, of course, but one can dream. The "player" would see justice if he was legally barred from being involved in anything that could lead to a repeat of what he did.
 
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